[THREAD RETIRED] Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people - Original thread. Historical purposes only. Not updated. Refer to forum for current info/discussion.

[Freak Shit]

Bella has used the alias Lilaj, perhaps it's related to that somehow?

Lily = Lilaj seems the most plausible theory so far

And on that, its less relevant now with all the current leaks, but I do not buy for a second Bella's story of "oh no, my phone didn't record the full 4 hours of audio, it kept going in and out randomly, but also it recorded the exact 9, then 12, then 20 minutes around the admission of incest". She's bound to have at least attempted to record more audio and had the record button on for more than just that time period. It's possible that she deleted more of that four hour phone call, but we just don't know and likely never will.

Yeah it's totally unbelievable that the autist schizo who keeps uncompressed recordings of their roommates bickering isn't in possession of the full recordings of DA BIGGEST TROLE ON HISTORY

 

[Mistakeling]

Lily mentions taking a shower in the Sandbag chat. So more than likely not Bella.

Remember Portobella Skanke is a prolific liar. That is absolutely something she would claim.

 

[EnkiNikopol]

Chris is a disgusting coomer with zero self-control and no boundary issues. So trolls who fed him ever more disgusting ideas could get him to coom to ever more disgusting things. Chris's previous harassment victims only didn't end up rape victims because people like Megan could actually tell him no and make it stick, as he was too weak and cowardly ever actually to try to physically overpower them.

Once he had an actual victim unable to resist him, though, he went ahead and raped. He always had it in him to do this, but never had a victim incapable of resisting.

Similarly, the previous mace incident. He always has had an inclination for violent tard rages, so when idiots like @Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt openly egged him on in his blarms protest, this was just shoving him down the path of his natural inclinations.

Chris talked about wanting to rape Megan back decade ago, saying that be draw those sex pics only because that was only alternative to release the coom.

Its pretty coomerish to simp her for dumbest fucking troll alive because she has udders, but even that depravity is above simping for a guy who fucked his mom. I see a lot of "Chris was a victim" here, when no, he wasnt. Anyone who thinks that only options are Bella good, Chris bad or Chris good, Bella bad is a retard. For what he didnt personally I cant muster giving a shit that Bella fucked with him. Fuck him.

Animal abuse and fucking with bystanders like Fiona gives you a cow sticker tho.

 

[Father Dharmendra Rada]

Isabella Janke has 0 clue how organized crime works. You don't put yourself in the center. Kingpins don't expose themselves

She wouldn't have it any other way, imo. Her narcissism seems to be just as strong as her antisocial tendencies and she desperately needed whatever "clout" would come from engaging in this retarded endeavor - she absolutely thrives off this shit. Seems to me like she initially tried to leak things in a way where she could claim responsibility while maintaining IRL anonymity, but unfortunately for her, you can't have your cake and eat it too. It seems like she doesn't like the attention as much when it puts her pizza face directly under a giant spotlight, as indicated by her present radio silence and pathetic attempts at damage control. As another user said, she still probably would've gotten doxxed to shit even if she made better efforts to cover up her involvement, but her instinctual attention whoring certainly helped speed up the process.

 

[The_Goat_Escape]

Speaking of psychic. Did we come to consensus it's likely she'll skip her court date? Should Everfree con be notifiied if there is still any chance of her going?
I know the rules, don't touch poo.

[Edit, practically all the great houses of the Lansraad know about ILJ now. It's no secret, they already know?]

 

[AMHOLIO]

Now that the weekend is here, I am finally able to go through the discord leaks myself.

Damn bro, all that internet money.

I'm so glad to hear people are willing to go the extra mile to catch up on her. I'm sure she's getting the dopamine rush of attention along with the fear of consequences. It's a win/win!

 

[Mistakeling]

Speaking of psychic. Did we come to consensus it's likely she'll skip her court date? Should Everfree con be notifiied if there is still any chance of her going?
I know the rules, don't touch poo

What reason does she have to go now Chris and Fiona aren't there?

 

[Nobody Important]

Remember Portobella Skanke is a prolific liar. That is absolutely something she would claim.

She also takes a subordinate role in the whole thing and lets Sandbag do most of the talking. Does that sound like Bella at all?

 

[The_Goat_Escape]

What reason does she have to go now Chris and Fiona aren't there?

Absolutely excellent questions. The woman is an enigma so I don't know if she had any other schemes or plans to carry out whilst there , she certainly had plans of many types but idk how many of them involve other con folks. Fiona won't be there either, as she is hospitalized

 

[Mistakeling]

She also takes a subordinate role in the whole thing and lets Sandbag do most of the talking. Does that sound like Bella at all?

Actually, yes. It's part of the manipulation. The game etc.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Well the lesson we've all learned is a valuable one friends. We need to bring back sterilization at a young age for the retards.

 

[Nobody Important]

What reason does she have to go now Chris and Fiona aren't there?

Her mother, grandmother, and whoever the hell “Jasmine” is (sister? cousin?) all live in NY. So it’s either go back or cut off most of her family. She was also working some kind of job (internship?) while she was up there.

 

[Tallulah]

I'm sorry but I think this is all wrong.

The creator of the Psychic videos is known. His name is Caleb Heller. He posted them originally to reddit, with his user account /u/cmh612. He's identified as "Caleb" in the audio, and here is his TikTok.

The videos were created in February/March, and May is not "around the same time" in my opinion. Also, I went through the bella server logs and found the quote you pulled, and it's clear that the context surrounding this quote is very important.

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This was Bella and Louis dragging on Zoe, her ex. The reference to "lilly" is random and seemingly out of nowhere, and then Bella mentions something about the "cwcville sunday moms gathering" and that she "can't read it".

Although she is guilty of manipulating Chris in many other ways, and these screenshots also illustrate how cruel and abusive she can be, I don't think there is any connection between her and the Psychic videos, especially when their creator is already known.

"I'm really supportive of the LGBT community". Screenshot from the comment #14,920 by @romantakeoverr. We already knew she's a big liar but she's always impressing me.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I think Chris would mostly accept and "believe" the morals and goals people like Bob would give him because he could fantasize off it and get that planner's high that Null was talking about where planning and talking about ideas give you the same dopamine hits as actually doing it.

Chris was probably using them as a pseudo escapist fantasy like Sonichu and kept repeating it because the thought alone made him feel better. Things like being a virtuous Christian, getting a job, getting a wife, just thinking about, and preaching it was enough to satiate his dopamine thirst, but actually living by/accomplishing it requires hard work, which isn't worth it to him.

This is probably true of more people than we think, it's just far more extreme in Chris's case.

This is exactly what I'm saying. Normies can plan ahead and live in society knowing they will most likely be rewarded for good behavior, and thus have positive reinforcement of good behaviors in their mind. Tards like Chris don't have that, and thus all the positive reinforcement goes to either what makes them feel good at the time, or just imagining the idea like you said.

Trolls who fed him good ideas and bad ideas had equal influence, but the bad ideas gave him faster rewards, or at least the perception of avoiding immediate punishment.

I think *all* people behave this way, which is why in failed societies you see pretty shitty behavior normalized, since that is what brings long-term rewards. People differ in how far ahead they are able to think. Couple this with poor impulse control in general, and you have a toxic combination

I know that seems crazy that fucking Barb is somehow "tempting", but for Chris being able to fuck Fiona a few weeks in the future was like promising a normal person that in 500 years we'll have warp drive and explore the stars. It's relative. Turn the stakes down and you'll find less-retarded people ruining a nice dinner because at lunchtime they had a bag of Doritos in front of them that looked really good at the time. Also related because it's one of the causes of obesity. Try balancing the delayed gratification of maybe getting laid with someone hot someday with the immediate gratification of eating those cheeseburgers.

Chris would have never fucked Barb if someone was standing there ready to beat him with a razor blade-studded bat if he tried. Chris only told people about fucking Barb because the release of confiding in others was more immediate than the vague thought of getting in trouble about it in the future.

Bella has many of Chris' EXACT SAME PROBLEMS. If she hadn't been such a fucking sperg she would've realized that what she was doing wasn't worth it even if doing this shit made her moist.

Similarly none of this would have happened if the ideas that had such immediate gratification hadn't gone into their heads and taken over from productive ideas that didn't give immediate gratification.

 

[Mistakeling]

Her mother, grandmother, and whoever the hell “Jasmine” is (sister? cousin?) all live in NY. So it’s either go back or cut off most of her family. She was also working some kind of job (internship?) while she was up there.

Nobody was talking about NY. It was in relation to EverfreeNW.

 

[AnOminous]

Wait so it's illegal to possess a firearm in New York? Someone hasn't read the constitution...

It's not "possession," it's "criminal possession" under § 265.01(1). I'd assume it's some goofy mall ninja shit rather than a gun.

This is one of the most badly written laws I've ever seen.

S 265.01 Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree.
A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth
degree when:
(1) He or she possesses any firearm, electronic dart gun, electronic
stun gun, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, metal
knuckle knife, cane sword, billy, blackjack, bludgeon, plastic knuckles,
metal knuckles, chuka stick, sand bag, sandclub, wrist-brace type
slingshot or slungshot, shirken or "Kung Fu star"; or
(2) He possesses any dagger, dangerous knife, dirk, razor, stiletto,
imitation pistol, or any other dangerous or deadly instrument or weapon
with intent to use the same unlawfully against another; or
(3); or
(4) He possesses a rifle, shotgun, antique firearm, black powder
rifle, black powder shotgun, or any muzzle-loading firearm, and has been
convicted of a felony or serious offense; or
(5) He possesses any dangerous or deadly weapon and is not a citizen
of the United States; or
(6) He is a person who has been certified not suitable to possess a
rifle or shotgun, as defined in subdivision sixteen of section 265.00,
and refuses to yield possession of such rifle or shotgun upon the demand
of a police officer. Whenever a person is certified not suitable to
possess a rifle or shotgun, a member of the police department to which
such certification is made, or of the state police, shall forthwith
seize any rifle or shotgun possessed by such person. A rifle or shotgun
seized as herein provided shall not be destroyed, but shall be delivered
to the headquarters of such police department, or state police, and
there retained until the aforesaid certificate has been rescinded by the
director or physician in charge, or other disposition of such rifle or
shotgun has been ordered or authorized by a court of competent
jurisdiction.
(7) He knowingly possesses a bullet containing an explosive substance
designed to detonate upon impact.
( He possesses any armor piercing ammunition with intent to use the
same unlawfully against another.
Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree is a class A misdemeanor.

As for that (3); or thing, I have no fucking idea what that is but it's in all the online versions I've seen. Either they all grabbed it from some incorrect source or that's actually in the statute. I honestly don't know. Cases interpreting the statute seem to indicate the "with intent to use the same unlawfully against another" also applies to (1), even though on its face, the statute seems to outright prohibit possession of any firearm, and that's absolutely shitty drafting and a completely inappropriate use of "or."

This is from a case involving a knife.

A person is guilty of criminal possession of weapon in the fourth degree when, "[h]e possesses any . . . dangerous knife . . . with intent to use the same unlawfully against another" (Penal Law § 265.01 [2]). Possession of "any . . . dangerous knife . . . is presumptive evidence of intent to use the same unlawfully against another" (Penal Law § 265.15[4]). The offense has two essential elements as charged in the present case: (1) knowing possession of a dangerous knife and (2) possession with intent to use unlawfully against another.

People v. Oldham. So there's an intent element, but it's presumed by the mere possession of the weapon. New York law is fucked. But I assume this stupid cunt simply brought some retarded mall ninja shit that's illegal in New York into the state and then got arrested like an idiot.

 

[Nobody Important]

Nobody was talking about NY. It was in relation to EverfreeNW.

Ahh my mistake. I saw someone mention skipping her court date.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

Well the lesson we've all learned is a valuable one friends. We need to bring back sterilization at a young age for the retards.

Oh God wait, I just realized what if that's what trans shit is all about in the end?

 

[Coleslaw]

As for that (3); or thing, I have no fucking idea what that is but it's in all the online versions I've seen

Repealed clause?

 

[SpecialMergeDiety]

So guys I sent an email to Chris's lawyer that linked to this thread and gave a brief description of Isabella Janke. I know that you guys wont like that I did that, but given the circumstances I wouldn't want his defense to never know about Janke and to not have a chance to consider her in their defense, especially if the only thing im risking is slightly annoying a busy man. Anyways I received a cookie cutter response:

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"Mental health issues do not impair someone’s intelligence and artistry."

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Spoiler: Statement text

Statement about the prosecution of Christine Chandler While I appreciate your interest in this case, please defer to my judgment about how to handle this case considering my 42 consecutive years practicing in this area of the law. This is not my first well publicized and difficult case. I was assigned off-list because my extensive experience will inform my representation. Under ordinary circumstances, people should not believe everything they learn on the internet. Everything you find there should always be filtered by skepticism that is not pursued enough. This applies even more to somebody who is legally disabled with mental health issues. Ms. Chandler’s frequent and sometimes over the top presence on the internet is partly a product of mental health issues causing misguided attention seeking and often provocative engagement with others. Like almost anything on the internet, it is difficult to determine what is true. These principles hold no matter if you are a supporter, a legitimate journalist, or a trolling hater. Handling difficult court appointed cases is a public service. Representing my client does not involve replying to every interested person contacting me. Legitimate inquiries from journalists, supporters and nuisance trollers will be handled the same way. I have a policy of not commenting about my clients or their cases outside of when court proceedings are conducted. Even then, my statements will be limited to discussing procedural concerns. The criminal justice system is a poor vehicle to help people with mental health issues. There is also a critical shortage of mental health treatment facilities in Virginia. Providing somebody with the help that they need is complicated and will take time. Since viral information spread on the Internet is inherently unreliable, no matter its source, the volume of misinformation about my client and this case makes this a poor place to learn the truth. Mental health issues do not impair someone’s intelligence and artistry. However, these concerns impact behavior. Determining the truth is the job of our criminal justice system. There are few people with actual personal knowledge about what happened. Just because you heard or read something does not make it true. The Commonwealth is represented by a tough but fair prosecutor. I am the Court assigned counsel to represent Ms. Chandler. This case will only move forward and end within the ordinary confines of the legal process. Law enforcement is not limited to gathering evidence to support guilt. Only those few people with actual personal knowledge about the people involved and the facts of what happened should come forward. If you have reliable information or evidence that is helpful to the defense, the Greene County Sheriff’s Office has the duty to collect it and pass this along to me. They made this public statement: “Anyone with information is asked to contact Investigator Jason Tooley at (434) 531-0866.” Completing their ongoing investigation and the ethical implementation of the legal process are my only concerns as seasoned defense counsel.

And this shouldn't need to be stated, but do not contact Chris's lawyer. He doesn't care about you and will not comment on Chris's case. Please don't annoy him any more

You should get banned for this. Moron.