Are atheists afraid of hell / punishment for the wicked after death?

No, I don't believe in hell. What terrifies me about death is the cessation of self. That there won't be a "me" anymore.
 
According to Jesus no matter what you do if you believe then you go to Heaven. There are no Atheists. People who don't believe in God never say "I'm an Atheist" unless specifically pressed or post about Atheism online. People who identify as Atheist as a part of themselves are mentally ill, it comes with many personality disorders.

Desu Mountain said:
No, I don't believe in hell. What terrifies me about death is the cessation of self. That there won't be a "me" anymore.
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I've gone through the removal of self temporarily when I was into psychedelic drugs. It's intense but ultimately not frightening at the top. If you can experience it in life and continue to exist during and after then you at least know it's not anything critical to your being.
 
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RMQualtrough said:
According to Jesus no matter what you do if you believe then you go to Heaven. There are no Atheists. People who don't believe in God never say "I'm an Atheist" unless specifically pressed or post about Atheism online. People who identify as Atheist as a part of themselves are mentally ill, it comes with many personality disorders.
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Matthew 7:22-23
 
I fear hell roughly around about as much as I do Lord Voldemort, The Shredder and genderfluid demigurls.

That is not at all. Because none of them exist.
 
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Most atheists are driven by ego and so the idea of being held accountable is repulsive to them because they refuse to accept the idea of a higher authority than themselves, or at least one greater than mankind. Therefore, no, most do not fear Hell because they judge God and faith on the terms of man. They cannot accept something higher than that. And so they do not truly believe that anything after their life will matter or exist for them. Some may care about a legacy, but this is again for the sake of ego.

I believe in an Eastern Orthodox concept of Heaven and Hell, which is centered on personal relationships to God.

Everyone meets God after their death, and it will be either a comforting and familiar presence from having lived a Christ-like life and having become closer to God through acts and faith (sola fide fags stay mad), or an alien and terrifying experience due to estranging oneself from God by rejecting Him and doing evil.

I think that it is possible for an atheist to be virtuous, but acts are only one part. Rejecting God’s existence outright is obviously not going to do anybody any favors. I hope that those that are not virtuous can become so, and those that are virtuous but reject God can allow themselves to accept Him.

To spare everyone a rambling effortpost, I’ll leave it at that.
 
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Penis Drager said:
Nah, bro. Morality is impossible without God. Your lack of faith is why you're such a cum chugging homosexual
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Even if he doesn't believe, his moral framework is doubtlessly based on Judeo-Christian values, it's inevitable. Even foreign culture and religious groups are partly influenced by them, including China, since communism's birth can also be attributed to Christianity(as well as most political ideologies).
 
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I'm an Atheist but I would be lying if I said that I don't fear Hell, at least in some part. The child that learned to fear Hell never truly dies and I do find my self thinking about God in my times of need. You could say I'm an Atheist who has a crisis of faith, with that being said I am a nonbeliever.

One day I will die as will all of you, what happens after then is a mystery even to an Atheist but if I spend eternity in Hell fire or simply cease to exist or whatever lies behind the vail then so be it. I live my life as I see fit and I encourage that everyone try to find happiness how they can.

As an aside, I do find it funny how many religious people see this argument as "us vs the Atheists" when this very same question can be applied to them, there are more thing between Christ and nothing after all. So do you fear the endless cycle of birth death and rebirth? Probably not right, but you are as sure of your beliefs as the 100 billion humans or so who came before you were as sure of theirs.
 
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The idea of hell always seemed retarded even when I was a Christian so I suspect fedora lords feel the same. Interestingly my father whose pretty much a nihililist is terrified of his own death because he knows nothing waits beyond but my mother the Christian also emotively fears death despite being intellectually aware it's not the end and years to see my grandparents.
 
Emperor Julian said:
The idea of hell always seemed retarded even when I was a Christian so I suspect fedora lords feel the same. Interestingly my father whose pretty much a nihililist is terrified of his own death because he knows nothing waits beyond but my mother the Christian also emotively fears death despite being intellectually aware it's not the end and years to see my grandparents.
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Why do you think it's retarded?
 
biozeminadae1 said:
Why do you think it's retarded?
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Their's too many logical holes in the idea. Off the top of my head the big ones were

1) Infinate punishment for finite failings is stupid.
2) It aggravates the problem of evil by ascribing genuine manevolance to gods decisions.

Their's other stuff but those are the big ones.
 
Emperor Julian said:
Their's too many logical holes in the idea. Off the top of my head the big ones were

1) Infinate punishment for finite failings is stupid.
2) It aggravates the problem of evil by ascribing genuine manevolance to gods decisions.

Their's other stuff but those are the big ones.
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1) It's due to not obeying God, not-so-much the deed itself
2) God created Evil.
 
Those who don't believe are already living in hell and they don't even see it. When they see it, no believe can save you then.
 
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1) It's due to not obeying God, not-so-much the deed itself
2) God created Evil.
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1) Yeah I was being charitable by refering to it as a failing, personally I consider the implications that it's simple disobediance much worse.
2) Yes which at best reflects badly on god at worst suggests god is evil.
 
Emperor Julian said:
1) Yeah I was being charitable by refering to it as a failing, personally I consider the implications that it's simple disobediance much worse.
2) Yes which at best reflects badly on god at worst suggests god is evil.
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1) In infinite punishment the judgement loses purpose. If let's say you would believe, then God could either send you to hellfire until your souls burns up or indeed does keep burning, otherwise God can just turn away from you and then there you have an eternity of literal nothingness. Both lead to an existence without God, which to a believer, is worse than ay kind of meme hell an atheist could ever come up with.
2) I've noticed that the problem of evil increases in relevance depending on how spoiled the articulatorino is. Sometimes you just gotta fight whether you win or lose.
 
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CAPTAIN MATI said:
1) In infinite punishment the judgement loses purpose. If let's say you would believe, then God could either send you to hellfire until your souls burns up or indeed does keep burning, otherwise God can just turn away from you and then there you have an eternity of literal nothingness. Both lead to an existence without God, which to a believer, is worse than ay kind of meme hell an atheist could ever come up with.
2) I've noticed that the problem of evil increases in relevance depending on how spoiled the articulatorino is. Sometimes you just gotta fight whether you win or lose.
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1) Yeah I get hell isnt some horned guy shoving a spike up your bum, but all depections are unified in the stance it's a form of infinate torments. It's probably beyond our ability to understand considering that mundaine suffering has limits.
2) I don't get your meaning.
 
Emperor Julian said:
1) Yeah I get hell isnt some horned guy shoving a spike up your bum, but all depections are unified in the stance it's a form of infinate torments. It's probably beyond our ability to understand
2) I don't get your meaning.
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1) Torment ain't hard to get though. Imagine loosing every single comfort you have right now. Now if you're really gansgter, try imagining loosing everything slowly and through your own hubris.
2) I mean that the existence of evil is emphasized by those who don't suffer enough of it, while those who do suffer it or have suffered it emphasize goodness.
 
CAPTAIN MATI said:
1) Torment ain't hard to get though. Imagine loosing every single comfort you have right now. Now if you're really gansgter, try imagining loosing everything slowly and through your own hubris.
2) I mean that the existence of evil is emphasized by those who don't suffer enough of it, while those who do suffer it or have suffered it emphasize goodness.
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1) thats still pretty finite, after a billion billion years of that it's unlikely you could conceivably suffer a great deal unless other factors are at work.
2) that isnt really my personal experiance at best suffering just fucks you up. Certainly my own views of life have darkened as the shit rolls down. I suspect I'm not the only one.
 
Emperor Julian said:
1) thats still pretty finite, after a billion billion years of that it's unlikely you could conceivably suffer a great deal unless other factors are at work.
2) that isnt really my personal experiance at best suffering just fucks you up. Certainly my own views of life have darkened as the shit rolls down. I suspect I'm not the only one.
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1) A billion billion years of suffering, alive like now or in some higher sense, would tarnish your whole being all Dark Souls style. Eternal salvation will trudge you through any suffering into the arms of God himself and the sentencing of all evil. Finite still resides in infinity.
2) Suffering without the mere idea of possible salvation will turn you into an animal. You won't care for either evil or good. True hope will always keep you in the good, No hope will always keep you in itself no matter what good you would have.
 
CAPTAIN MATI said:
1) A billion billion years of suffering, alive like now or in some higher sense, would tarnish your whole being all Dark Souls style. Eternal salvation will trudge you through any suffering into the arms of God himself and the sentencing of all evil. Finite still resides in infinity.
2) Suffering without the mere idea of possible salvation will turn you into an animal. You won't care for either evil or good. True hope will always keep you in the good, No hope will always keep you in itself no matter what good you would have.
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1)yes I get the premise of salvation and damnation. It's just silly, especially with video game referances.
2) human beings don't really work that way, also this doesnt really address the problem of evil.
 
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