An Interview with Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella Janke acquaintance ZorgothTDK - Alleges Bella has a CP collection, sexually assaults her friends, and more

[Sasha]

Fuck, I never thought I would be hoping that somebody actually meant lolicon

Also wtf is a 4chan thread admin?

It's like a chatroom sysop.
But racist.

 

[TayandYou]

He was just reporting what Bella said, we do know she tends to inflate her importance on a regular basis. I do not feel that a lack of understanding on how 4chan works necessarily undermines the credibility of everything he had to say.

I do want to add that Zorgoth is not just a random guy, but someone that has been focused on by people in the thread (and behind-the-scenes) for quite some time, and at one point it was speculated that the disembodied hand on the left side of the Avery "cake" photo belonged to Zorgoth. If Bella, Louis, and Allen were #1, 2, and 3, Zorgoth was probably #4 on the list of who needed to be investigated with regards to their involvement. @Spooky Bones and others agreed that it was important to get his perspective, and I was tasked with talking with him last night.

Even if Zorgoth meant admin of 8chan boards, 8chan cracked down on CP years ago

I don't see how she can stumble into so much CP by browsing the big chans

 

[Dyn]

so you have yet another person who can reiterate her claims of being the worst person in the world. what is valuable in this story? what exists without exaggeration? what can be verified?

if you he can prove he knew her and he attests that she collects child pornography then that's a tally mark. "These people said she is into child pornography".

All he's got is her claims she's a big heckin 4chan janny pedo with a harddrive full of little girl cp, which is fine, "Bella claims to be a honkin big pedophile" is noteworthy, but it's embarrassing that people here are breathlessly assuming it's true and not just more of her NPD sickgirl brags.

 

[wanddumpster]

so just thinking about potential holes in what's presented here. The "admin of 4chan threads" statement doesn't make sense and is somewhat suspect but he could also just not be aware of 4chans structure and ingroup language (is english a second language for him?). I don't understand his motivation if he's lying to us beyond just getting revenge on his former friendgroup. This also sounds exactly like shit Bella would have made up to sound cool, so it could just be zorgoth overemphasizing what little he knows about Bella.

He could be lying, he could be lying and not actually zorgoth (verified identity?), he could be speaking from conjecture because he doesn't know Bella very well but wants to thoroughly clear his name. If none of that rings true I think he could be very well telling essentially the truth.

No one else would be motivated to share with us that Bella is a pedophile because they're at the same university as her and in the same friend group. If you out the pedophile, you're also outing yourself as being friends with someone you know was a pedophile. So...

edit to say nulls last post is essentially cream of the crop and goes far beyond what I was trying to say. big agree

 

[MoonlightMoo]

CP and animal abuse. You are winning the lower-than-scum bingo Bella! Congratulations

 

[Special Agent Punchy]

Well, she edited it, and talked about editing the height too so it seems kind of odd that she's willing to edit so much but not DOB.

On some reflection, I think it is that she is literally retarded lol

 

[DiggieSmalls]

Could you point me to where there is anything in the logs linking Zorgoth to playing DND with them? I've been rather busy with other focuses the last couple of days, so I may have missed that. If you can get me that info, I'd be happy to ask him follow-up questions regarding it.

As for why we currently believe what Zorgoth has said, this is due to extensive checking of his claims behind-the-scenes by other people working on this. Much of what he has said has been verified by cross-checking it with other conversations and logs we have, and/or going directly to the source (such as checking to make sure mod Avery in the e-sports discord incident was not the same Avery that Bella and her crew harassed.) Additionally, he was in no way evasive during my questioning of him. Finally, he is no longer a TTU student and doesn't have a college career to protect, nobody is going to expel him for being in the same discord as these people.




I didn't ask if he had any proof or screencaps of where she made these statements, but I will be happy to follow up on that with him. As for a motivation to lie, I don't know of any that he might have. There were other allegations I asked him about (such as Bella selling prescription drugs), which he said he had no knowledge of. We do have the screencaps from the Title IX powerpoint where Bella frequently talked about rape and molestation in the original Chess server, which aligns with what he claims about her "constantly talking about touching little girls", along with Zoe's interviews where she says Bella would post pictures of herself as a young girl in swimsuits, etc, then say stuff like she "would totally molest little girl me".

That’s cool, but unless you have some merit of honor pass good boy points on kiwifarms I just will hold my reservations. This ruins people’s lives. Just the DDoS bandwagon alone, the people invested in the “glow stick” theory are basing it on what?
I’m not calling you a liar, but knowing first hand how twisted people can make the world view you without any proof is a terrible thing to do to a person.

 

[TayandYou]

All he's got is her claims she's a big heckin 4chan janny pedo with a harddrive full of little girl cp, which is fine, "Bella claims to be a honkin big pedophile" is noteworthy, but it's embarrassing that people here are breathlessly assuming it's true and not just more of her NPD sickgirl brags.

Oh, I don't believe her for a second. I've not been on 4chan in a long time, but I know there are no thread admins. Zorgoth is either mistaken or was lied to.

But now there is a slim possibility, and that possibility is horrifying and we should be careful for our own sakes

 

[Rakoon]

I don't see how she can stumble into so much CP by browsing the big chans

Just yesterday I stumbled upon a thread on /pol/ full of loli (which is CP, right?) that stood there for like 20 minutes without moderation, and I visit chans only like once in a month, so I'd say it's definitely possible.

 

[Genetically Modified Fuck]

My bad, not Louise, Bella probably giving Louise the idea for his Steam handle and such.

We know Bri, Bella, and Allen played this game. That's generally not enough people so there are more.

 

[valid trans cutie]

Everyone knows Bella wasn't a "4chan thread admin". The point is that together with what we already have seen in regards to CP and Bella (asking for more on Reddit, mentioning it multiple times on Discord, reports of her posting underage girls) it paints an image. And while we don't have material evidence, we have enough people saying her pedophile tendencies were more than a few suspect comments. Now the question is, was it just her being edgy? As I see it, she'd be the kind of person to actually have a CP folder exactly because it's le oldfag edgy. Or she does fondle her fungus vagina unironically to it.

In the end it doesn't matter. We can sum it up like this: While null is right that this is not evidence, I disagree that it undermines everything else already posted. If we only went by what we can prove beyond reasonable doubt, then we also would need to stop talking about the estrogen incident, rape accusations, and so on. Just, let's keep in mind that we can't be sure yet she has CP.

EDIT: I want to reiterate: I'm saying "this paints a picture" based on the comments of others seeing what pics she posted and the third-party data such as Reddit posts, not based on what Bella said to others. We all know you can't trust her.

 

[Basalasas]

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My bad, not Louise, Bella probably giving Louise the idea for his Steam handle and such.

We know Bri, Bella, and Allen played this game. That's generally not enough people so there are more.

Bri might be worth looking at, as they're a current or former roommate of Bella's and know the rest of the group.
She's quite easy to find, google "bri_the_cheesy".
EDIT: Keep in mind we have proof in the logs of Isabella creeping on her and saying she stole her panties etc.

 

[Unabashed Hermaphrodite]

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My bad, not Louise, Bella probably giving Louise the idea for his Steam handle and such.

We know Bri, Bella, and Allen played this game. That's generally not enough people so there are more.

Holy fuck this is so cringy, ah I'm like sperging out at the 'dm' who probably doesn't exist for allowing this.

 

[Dyn]

But now there is a slim possibility, and the possibility is horrifying and we should be careful

She's a narcissistic attentionwhore with a pedophile persona. I don't think she actually knows where to find cp and I don't think she's got a genuine interest in finding it, or in molesting little girls, but if her back was ever against the wall I think she would absolutely molest a child to avoid admitting that she's making all this retard shit up for negative attention.

So yes, in a way she's a danger to children, because she's stupid and stubborn and has tied up too much of her self-worth into an evil serial-killer animal-abusing child-molesting persona and her fragile little heart wouldn't be able to cop the narcissistic injury of backing down in front of people.

 

[Sasha]

yeah that sounds about right. from what I've seen I think Bella is a pathological liar and will say literally anything if it means people will think she's got something wrong with her. her mom and dad probably rewarded only negative behaviors with their attention and she had to keep being more and more disruptive to get attention. it was easier to get this online (especially from men) so she moved onlnie.

it's nice to have a mural of shame that's a collection of this information but you have to also separate out her own bullshit. if she's telling people she's a moderator on imageboards and collects child pornography she probably does neither and it's harmful to the reputation of your claims if you try to pass off both.

her persona is to be the worst person in the world. that's what she wants people to believe about her. the venom to this sort of pathology is to sort out wheat from chaff and enumerate what specifically she is without exaggeration.

instead of validating her complex, whittle her down as a little girl that tells big stories but does some pretty awful stuff.

so you have yet another person who can reiterate her claims of being the worst person in the world. what is valuable in this story? what exists without exaggeration? what can be verified?

if you he can prove he knew her and he attests that she collects child pornography then that's a tally mark. "These people said she is into child pornography".

Right, but it should be noted that when she read this kind of arguments (her being a edgelord) , she was eager to say things like "OF COURSE I was shitposting ! " . She may be a psychopath, but not psychotic, she actually knows that consequences could be very real.
We just got to be level headed and not jump the gun - put that aside until we've got actual proof.

 

[Caesar]

Bri might be worth looking at, as they're a current or former roommate of Bella's and know the rest of the group.
She's quite easy to find, google "bri_the_cheesy".

They're also a twitch streamer, but it seems their only involvement is that Bella was obsessed with her and hated her bf and that men gave her attention. She's aware if all this stuff tho, someone ITT said she is blasting Bella in her discord

 

[Spooky Bones]

All he's got is her claims she's a big heckin 4chan janny pedo with a harddrive full of little girl cp, which is fine, "Bella claims to be a honkin big pedophile" is noteworthy, but it's embarrassing that people here are breathlessly assuming it's true and not just more of her NPD sickgirl brags.

Right. We have to remember that Bella lies. I am quite convinced of a lot of the allegations, don't get me wrong. But some of the stuff is likely going to be her bullshitting around. The whole 4chan thing is an example and there are others like this because she is dumb as rocks and speaks about things he doesn't know about. I am not criticizing these leaks in fact they line up with what we know of Bella but I would just ask that people think critically.

 

[Genetically Modified Fuck]

Holy fuck this is so cringy, ah I'm like sperging out at the 'dm' who probably doesn't exist for allowing this.

Bri was the DM, I believe.

Zorgoth doesn't seem like someone we should take the word of. I can be convinced I am wrong but this guy is all over these chats and he has something to lose since shit like this already surrounded him.

 

[Toe]

I don't see how she can stumble into so much CP by browsing the big chans

Zorgoth needs to clarify if he means lolicon or not. If so, this would make a lot more sense.

 

[A Regular Squid]

Bella has never claimed to have CP despite all of her outlandish claims, so it's our obligation to put this allegation under a microscope before treating it as anywhere close to real.

However, anything that she has said herself is not something that can be put on us. If she wants to make herself look like "the world's worst person", all we're doing is putting a face and a name to her own claims.