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The media is lying. On COVID, Florida is still doing well​


You wouldn’t know it from all the liberal news coverage of Florida’s COVID-19 response, but things are actually pretty good in the Sunshine State.

Take it from a guy who just moved back here on purpose. Florida is doing quite well if you’re a resident who has come here to escape heavy-handed state governments and avoid mandatory masking or vaccines. It’s great if you’re fully vaccinated because you run a less than a 1% chance of COVID-related hospitalization or death. It’s even great for the unvaccinated who choose not to get the vaccine and risk facing an aggressive COVID variant — you will be left alone.

Still, news outlets can’t stop talking about how high the COVID cases are among Floridians, stoking ire against Gov. Ron DeSantis’s laissez-faire pandemic response. They seem genuinely frustrated that DeSantis refuses to impose restrictions that would protect the unvaccinated at the cost of the livelihoods of those who have been vaccinated. "Why must he persist," they seem to wonder, "with this dangerous notion that people who want to get vaccinated can, and those who don’t want to don’t have to?"

The answer is quite simple: Because it works.

Florida is sitting squarely in the middle of the pack when it comes to nationwide state vaccination rates. As of Aug. 8, nearly 60% of the state is at least partly vaccinated, while nearly 50% of the state is fully vaccinated.

Kaiser Family Foundation released an analysis showing that COVID breakthrough cases (vaccinated individuals who have contracted COVID) represent less than 1% of those who have been vaccinated nationwide. The percentage of people who have been vaccinated, contracted COVID, and died is even lower.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, meanwhile, has transitioned “from monitoring all reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections to investigating only those among patients who are hospitalized or die, thereby focusing on the cases of highest clinical and public health significance.” Why? Because the CDC can only track the people who are being hospitalized by the virus — the vaccine, by and large, is doing its job keeping people no more than asymptomatic if they contract COVID.

As of July 26, the CDC reported 6,239 breakthrough hospitalizations nationwide. Of those patients, 26% of those hospitalizations were reported as asymptomatic or not related to COVID. Likewise, the CDC had reported 1,263 breakthrough fatalities, of which 24% were reported as unrelated to COVID.

The country is in a better place than it was a year ago. We have three safe and effective COVID vaccines. Anyone over the age of 12 who wants to get the vaccine can get it, and anyone who doesn’t want the vaccine doesn’t have to. Whether or not to be protected against COVID is, and should be, a decision folks can make all on their own. Florida knows and abides by this, even while getting lambasted everyday by the likes of CNN and White House press secretary Jen Psaki.

To be sure, Florida has faced an increase in hospitalizations over the past month. But it’s clear who is getting sick and hospitalized: younger, unvaccinated people. Through a concerted effort by the DeSantis administration to prioritize early vaccinations for Florida’s most prominent at-risk population, 85% of the state’s elderly population (65 and up) have been vaccinated with one or more doses. Conversely, ages 20-39 are only about 45% vaccinated.

As the state’s government has resisted new restrictions amid rising cases, the severity of the delta variant has come front-of-mind to many unvaccinated people. That’s why, in the past two weeks, Florida has seen an increased rate of vaccinations as the highly infectious and perhaps deadlier variant wreaks havoc on those who have resisted the shot previously. The rising case count has also informed other COVID-safe behavior. More individuals are seen sporting masks indoors and, in some cases, even outdoors.

What it boils down to, and what national news outlets can’t stand, is that Florida won’t sacrifice its economy and people’s freedom to protect the unvaccinated. And why should it when everyone has virtually full, unfettered access to the vaccine?

From Washington, D.C., to the Bay Area counties of California, many public health officials are urging or actively re-implementing mask mandates and other COVID restrictions, “regardless of vaccination status.” In the Sunshine State, regardless of vaccination status, you will be left to your own devices. Given the choice of where to live, I’ll take the risk of freedom every time.

Tyler Shanahan (@TylerKShanahan) is a contributor to Young Voices and a Florida native.
 
Deaths follow cases, not the other way around. So look at the figures in a few weeks to see what the cases today represent. And we can thank hospitals for their efforts to save people with treatments now being more than 200% more effective at preventing deaths. If people didn't have treatment of any kind in the hospitals or fancy equipment, the death toll would be vastly greater.

Perhaps you miss the 39,964 deaths in the column over...that would be well over 100,000 without the sophisticated methods and equipment of ICUs and the breathing equipment used to save peoples lives.

In any event, the idea "nothing going on" in Florida is dogs balls false.

To hold that narrative would require living in an alternate universe.




Wow, 122 out of 27,000 didn't survive it, talk about man-made panic. More people probably die in Florida every year from household accidents with electrical appliances than that.

And that's why they aren't putting the death counts in the scare-em articles, even people bad at math can see through that.
 
Here are the deaths and everything else for you.

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>alleged hospitalization rate of 50%

Christ almighty, people really will believe absolutely anything if the right people say it, won't they?

For context, that's almost seven times the CDC-reported rate, which is already known to be very inflated.

Like fucking hell, I knew the NYT was a propaganda rag, but they could at least try to make their numbers remotely believable.

But even despite their egregious book doctoring, they still reported a hilariously low death rate of .4%, because it's a lot harder to fake a death than a hospitalization.

A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way toward not being scared of something that isn't scary.
 
Wow, 122 out of 27,000 didn't survive it, talk about man-made panic. More people probably die in Florida every year from household accidents with electrical appliances than that.

And that's why they aren't putting the death counts in the scare-em articles, even people bad at math can see through that.
Florida also has a population of 21,300,000 people and the highest elderly population in the US

They also rank 27th for coof deaths

For reference,

Florida has 40,167 coof deaths from a population of 21,300,000
New York has 53,615 coof deaths from a population of 19,450,000

You're 1.46x more likely to die of the coof in New York than Florida and yet for some reason there isn't round the clock coverage of New York.
 
Deaths follow cases, not the other way around. So look at the figures in a few weeks to see what the cases today represent. And we can thank hospitals for their efforts to save people with treatments now being more than 200% more effective at preventing deaths. If people didn't have treatment of any kind in the hospitals or fancy equipment, the death toll would be vastly greater.

Perhaps you miss the 39,964 deaths in the column over...that would be well over 100,000 without the sophisticated methods and equipment of ICUs and the breathing equipment used to save peoples lives.

In any event, the idea "nothing going on" in Florida is dogs balls false.

To hold that narrative would require living in an alternate universe.
Let's break it down for a second, the US hit 500,000 coof deaths on Feb 21, 2021

The current coof death toll is 627,722

So you're telling me that in the last 168 days, 20 days shy of half a year, only 127,722 have died of the coof even though the vaccine wasn't generally available to the public until April, the 2nd dose was nearly impossible to get until early June, and a large swath of the population isn't vaccinated at all?

Something about that smells like a monkeys butt.
 
Florida is sunny (more vitamin D), warm and humid year round, so Covid should never be much of an issue there or in similar climates regardless of vaccine status.
View attachment 2432161Healthcare worker (who admittedly could stand to lose a few pounds) speaks at the same meeting:
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I saw this on Twitter as well and glad you got it archived here but has any one seen the researchers doc is referring to.
 
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TL;DR Trump whines about stolen elections, DeSantis actually does the work to stop the steal.

That is why they hate DeSantis: he's got credibility in stopping Democratic election corruption. If he gets national attention, and gets other governors doing the same, the Dems can't rely on their margin of fraud in certain key states.
That's a funny way of saying "nobody in the GOP wanted Trump in the party, but were willing to help DeSantis". I'll agree that Trump should've seen the fraud coming and done something about it, but acting as if though he had any allies whatsoever to help him even if he did attempt to prevent election fraud is retarded. His own VP fucking turned on him at the end for fuck's sake, the one who spent nigh-on four years publicly sucking his cock.
 
Let's break it down for a second, the US hit 500,000 coof deaths on Feb 21, 2021

The current coof death toll is 627,722

So you're telling me that in the last 168 days, 20 days shy of half a year, only 127,722 have died of the coof even though the vaccine wasn't generally available to the public until April, the 2nd dose was nearly impossible to get until early June, and a large swath of the population isn't vaccinated at all?

Something about that smells like a monkeys butt.
The only thing that smells "funny" is the fact you pick and chose what stats you like to - from sources you claim are all liars. You ignore the Hospital Associations own stats which are in-line with the reported stats also.

You guys also suck at statistical analysis.

You like to use the entire population to come up with your mythical statistics on how lethal something is. Well then, I guess I am glad that you are the other guys on this Florida thread aren't in charge of our CDC or healthcare, because you idiots would also be therefore saying Ebola is 1,000 times less lethal than Covid.

Your ignorance is on full display. Keep typing and ignoring every graph, every Florida republican owned institution, every Hospital announcement, every doctor statements that says the exact opposite of this thread.

"Nothing going on in Florida". Utter horseshit to anyone but a total fool.
 
The only thing that smells "funny" is the fact you pick and chose what stats you like to - from sources you claim are all liars. You ignore the Hospital Associations own stats which are in-line with the reported stats also.

You guys also suck at statistical analysis.

You like to use the entire population to come up with your mythical statistics on how lethal something is. Well then, I guess I am glad that you are the other guys on this Florida thread aren't in charge of our CDC or healthcare, because you idiots would also be therefore saying Ebola is 1,000 times less lethal than Covid.

Your ignorance is on full display. Keep typing and ignoring every graph, every Florida republican owned institution, every Hospital announcement, every doctor statements that says the exact opposite of this thread.

"Nothing going on in Florida". Utter horseshit to anyone but a total fool.
Okay cool. Now what? Oh right nobody gives a fuck nor should they.
 
The only thing that smells "funny" is the fact you pick and chose what stats you like to - from sources you claim are all liars. You ignore the Hospital Associations own stats which are in-line with the reported stats also.

You guys also suck at statistical analysis.

You like to use the entire population to come up with your mythical statistics on how lethal something is. Well then, I guess I am glad that you are the other guys on this Florida thread aren't in charge of our CDC or healthcare, because you idiots would also be therefore saying Ebola is 1,000 times less lethal than Covid.

Your ignorance is on full display. Keep typing and ignoring every graph, every Florida republican owned institution, every Hospital announcement, every doctor statements that says the exact opposite of this thread.

"Nothing going on in Florida". Utter horseshit to anyone but a total fool.
lmao I'm willing to bet you're some TDS liberal from a blue slave state.

Why are you so obsessed with Florida? Is it because your governor (I'm betting you could flip a coin on whether your governor is Cuomo or Newsom) screwed up and you now have to deal with the dissonance of not being able to live normally when in Florida things are almost entirely normal? Is it because the talking heads on CNN or MSNBC said "Florida bad!" to avoid talking about their own masters' fuck ups, and you're just so stupid you fall for it? Or is it because Floridians generally don't care and that gets your panties in a twist since they don't agree 100% with you all the time and you must be right? Unless you live in Florida, there is literally no good reason for you to be so obsessed with DeSantis and covid in Florida.

Fuck off back to your slave state, put on your three masks, and muzzle yourself so nobody has to hear your retardation. Or you can continue to cope, seethe, and dilate about Florida. I promise you, people in Florida won't care.
 
Florida also has a population of 21,300,000 people and the highest elderly population in the US

They also rank 27th for coof deaths

For reference,

Florida has 40,167 coof deaths from a population of 21,300,000
New York has 53,615 coof deaths from a population of 19,450,000

You're 1.46x more likely to die of the coof in New York than Florida and yet for some reason there isn't round the clock coverage of New York.

So new york, a statistically similar in population state, had 13,448 more people die of the coof? I wonder what could have been going on in NY to cause that discrepancy...
 
So new york, a statistically similar in population state, had 13,448 more people die of the coof? I wonder what could have been going on in NY to cause that discrepancy...
One would really expect Florida to have the highest coof deaths in the nation based on their elderly population.

The fact that they aren't even in the top 25 should make anyone's spidey sense tingle.
 
That's a funny way of saying "nobody in the GOP wanted Trump in the party, but were willing to help DeSantis". I'll agree that Trump should've seen the fraud coming and done something about it, but acting as if though he had any allies whatsoever to help him even if he did attempt to prevent election fraud is retarded. His own VP fucking turned on him at the end for fuck's sake, the one who spent nigh-on four years publicly sucking his cock.
Also, it's easy to do shit on the state level, especially when your party controls the legislature. And niggas want to trap DeSantis in DC, why?
 
lmao I'm willing to bet you're some TDS liberal from a blue slave state.

Why are you so obsessed with Florida? Is it because your governor (I'm betting you could flip a coin on whether your governor is Cuomo or Newsom) screwed up and you now have to deal with the dissonance of not being able to live normally when in Florida things are almost entirely normal? Is it because the talking heads on CNN or MSNBC said "Florida bad!" to avoid talking about their own masters' fuck ups, and you're just so stupid you fall for it? Or is it because Floridians generally don't care and that gets your panties in a twist since they don't agree 100% with you all the time and you must be right? Unless you live in Florida, there is literally no good reason for you to be so obsessed with DeSantis and covid in Florida.

Fuck off back to your slave state, put on your three masks, and muzzle yourself so nobody has to hear your retardation. Or you can continue to cope, seethe, and dilate about Florida. I promise you, people in Florida won't care.
There is a guy who creates a thread saying the media is lying about Florida. Thats the totality of my interest. It is horseshit.

And everything. Every source from Republicans, every source from every paper, republican owned or not, every hospital, - every single statistic goes entirely opposite of this statement. Every doctor statement from any hospital, every statistic by the Florida Hospital Association - you name it, the exact opposite.

Why not declare the moon is made of cheese and then argue against others when we can't present a moon rock.

This childish approach to backing an idea that is entirely meritless, especially when sources are quoted and verified, is the type of defensive approach I'd expect from a kid and not an adult. So perhaps you can lay before us all this incredible wealth of information you have that no one else seems to have.

You are dead wrong. Pants on fire wrong. Period. Paragraph.
 
And everything. Every source from Republicans, every source from every paper, republican owned or not, every hospital, - every single statistic goes entirely opposite of this statement. Every doctor statement from any hospital, every statistic by the Florida Hospital Association - you name it, the exact opposite.
How did you manage to miss the point so completely?

Here are the two main points in my post that you lazily skipped past:
lmao I'm willing to bet you're some TDS liberal from a blue slave state.
is it because Floridians generally don't care and that gets your panties in a twist since they don't agree 100% with you all the time and you must be right?
No response to the first, so you're some libtard from California, the greater New York region, or some other blue hole.

No response to the second. Instead of addressing the point, that people like yourself care more than the vast majority of actual Floridians who are living life fairly normally, you just continue to suck the dick of authority to try and fearmonger about a place you admittedly have no reason to care about in your normal life.

So let me spell this out for you:
1) I never rejected any statistics, nor did I accept any
2) I never commented on the substance of a single source of any variety in this thread
3) I have no idea why you are so obsessed with a place you have no relation to
4) Despite all your fear porn and your intellectual submission to people using tactics straight out of D Huff's How to Lie with Statistics, the fact remains that Floridians don't really care, and it isn't negatively impacting their daily life

So let me ask again. What are you really mad about? Covid in Florida, or the fact that people in Florida stopped freaking out about covid months ago and life is generally normal there?

You are dead wrong. Pants on fire wrong. Period. Paragraph.
You write this and it makes me feel retarded. What am I wrong about? Why you're so obsessed? That you're from some pozzed amhole of the country? Why you're so mad on the internet? It seems like you've created some fantasy where I wrote, "COVID is a fake psy op by the Jews in Antarctica and it doesn't really exist! All the hospitals are empty!" In fact, I said nothing of the kind. Not even close.

In lieu of any rational post by you, I'll conclude with this:
Fuck off back to your slave state, put on your three masks, and muzzle yourself so nobody has to hear your retardation. Or you can continue to cope, seethe, and dilate about Florida. I promise you, people in Florida won't care.
 
Florida is sunny (more vitamin D), warm and humid year round, so Covid should never be much of an issue there or in similar climates regardless of vaccine status.
Its also full of elderly people. aka the main group that dies from chinkaids.
Won't bet on that. Covid does tear through India.
Well they die from all kinds of stupid stuff over there,


The Florida numbers still dont look good but i guess they fudge their numbers abit by counting all elderly dieing with chinkaids.
 
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