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George Christiansen is a conservative politician who stood up in the Aus parliament and said the unsayable.

Let's hope then others will see the light Down Under.
I think most South East Asian countries mainly use the chinese one.
I heard Chile also got the Chinese one but they aren't so lucky with it from what I read on the article posted last June. https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021...ccines-fail-to-prevent-new-covid-wave-n396560
 

Cloth masks or surgical masks? Either way, you'll be wearing one for 'years to come'

By Lily Nothling
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Mandatory face masks have again become a wardrobe staple for millions of Queenslanders subject to stringent COVID-19 orders.
For the first time, masks must now be worn by all high school students and school staff in south-east Queensland.

Chief Health Officer Jeannette Young has flagged mask rules could remain in place until Christmas, as health authorities try to stamp out further spread of the Delta strain.

Here's what you need to know about staying safe, hygienic and masked up.

Surgical masks vs cloth masks​

Queensland Health advises the best face mask to use is a single-use surgical mask.

Infectious diseases specialist Dr Paul Griffin said when it comes to choosing which mask to wear, "any mask is better than none".

"For use in the general community, we don't really mind which type of mask it is – they all provide sufficient protection to reduce the risk of infection," Dr Griffin said.

He said masks should be used in conjunction with hand hygiene, social distancing and consistent COVID-19 testing.

"By itself it's not a perfect intervention so it doesn't stop 100 per cent of transmission, but it certainly goes a very long way to reducing it – probably in the order of around 50 per cent or maybe more," he said.

Dr Griffin said higher grade P2 or N95 masks were standard in hospital environments.

"They are really required if you're in close proximity to someone who's infected, like in a healthcare setting," he said.

"We don't think those are necessary in the community but do provide a little bit of extra protection."

Queensland Health said a scarf, snood or piece of fabric is not an acceptable alternative for a mask.

Can I re-wear my surgical mask?​

Surgical masks are designed for single use.

"So we don't want people to recycle those for days or weeks on end," Dr Griffin said.

"If they do get damaged or soiled or wet in any way, then how well they work will definitely be reduced so they should be discarded."
Clean Up Australia told the ABC surgical masks could take up to 450 years to break down in the environment.

How often should I wash my cloth mask?​

Dr Griffin said the more often you wash your mask, the better.

"Every couple of days would be the minimum … because we don't want things to build up and make them pose a risk in themselves," he said.

Cloth masks should be cleaned in the washing machine or hand washed with soap and left to dry before being reused.
Queensland Health said the most effective cloth masks are made up of at least three layers.

Is mask wearing here to stay?​

The current round of COVID-19 restrictions in south-east Queensland is due to lift on Sunday August 22 – though masks could remain.

Dr Griffin said people should expect to be wearing masks in some capacity "for years to come – it won't be weeks or months".

"Mask wearing is something we should all become accustomed to, for it to be an ingrained behaviour, so that even when the mandate lifts, if you're in an environment where you can't maintain social distancing, well then pop your mask on," he said.

"We just never know when this virus is going to pop back up.

"If we can be ahead of the curve … it'll certainly go a long way to reducing the chance of introducing the virus back into our community."
This reminds me of a quotation I heard 2-3 months about but could never find the raw video where a doctor basically said it was important for children to get comfortable with masks "so they get used to it as they grow older." Grow older? So yes, these people genuinely believe that we will mask up every year when a new variant comes along.
 
I think most South East Asian countries mainly use the chinese one.
This is true, like the vast majority of people here can only get the Sinovac stuff cause that's all there is unless you get lucky and a couple of thousand Pfizer or AZ doses come in. I've also had friends who got the Sputnik one, we just take what we can get.

Most people hate to get it cause generally we hate mainland Chinks and the rot they bring to our society. It also doesn't really work I've heard, but i wonder if it has less side effects as a result. I would have gotten it but I don't really wanna give the Chinks any kind of win by taking their jab juice.
 
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Only the Chinese will be lacking the spike antibodies, most in the west will have them. I can guess what they're planning.
I opted/was able to get a traditional inactivated vaccine (qazvac), it was pretty clear I was going to have to get something and it was the lesser evil. Does it actually work? Who knows, but at least I don't have to worry about it harming me.
 
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I thought this was a shitpost but its not. PHD's are more hesitant than HS dropouts lmao.
 
I opted/was able to get a traditional inactivated vaccine (qazvac), it was pretty clear I was going to have to get something and it was the lesser evil. Does it actually work? Who knows, but at least I don't have to worry about it harming me.
Get ready when they call for the next dose.
 
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I thought this was a shitpost but its not. PHD's are more hesitant than HS dropouts lmao.
I guess they have to work on a new narrative like the "datas was falsified" or something like that. :story:

Meanwhile in Italy the government want to extent vaccine passports to public transport and schools.
Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

Despite massive protests against the measures, Italy is set to extend its vaccine passport system to public transport and schools from September 1st.

Potentially exacerbating growing public contempt towards the draconian rules, authorities announced that the list of venues where the passport would be required is to be extended.

From the start of next month, teachers will be out of a job unless they take the vaccine and get the pass, while university students will be unable to attend classes without it.

The unvaccinated will also be banned from using long distance public transport, meaning that holidays, travel for work and visiting relatives will become impossible for many.

As of last week, venues such as museums, stadiums, theaters gyms, and indoor seating spaces at bars and restaurants all required vaccine identification.

“Customers and venues may face fines ranging from €400 to €1,000 ($470 to $1,180) if businesses fail to implement the regulation. Institutions that frequently break the rule risk being shut down for up to ten days by the authorities,” reports Reclaim the Net.
In an Orwellian statement, Health Minister Roberto Speranza said the extension of the scheme to include schools and public transport was necessary to “avoid closures and to safeguard freedom.”
 
Welp... I'm in lockdown again. But, like last time, its looking like another case of not really a lockdown, just a curfew. Cops are literally riding past curfew violators without paying heed to them, but there's a lot of big talk on the news about enforcing things.

So far, the uptick in cases began in either the first or second
Facts over feelings. People absolutely refuse to realize that the world ending coof. Was a sham.
 
I guess they have to work on a new narrative like the "datas was falsified" or something like that. :story:

Meanwhile in Italy the government want to extent vaccine passports to public transport and schools.
This pisses me off greatly. I just returned from a vacation in (mainly southern) Italy, and people there barely gave a shit about the Coof. Masks supposed to be worn, but few cared. I would have loved to emigrate to Italy at some point due to various reasons, but I don't really see that happening anymore. I mean, vaccine passports and exclusion from daily life unless you get a test you have to pay for yourself already pissed me off in Germany to the point where I want to leave despite being vaccinated, but this shit has already been in effect in Italy. When I returned to Germany I was required to be tested and it cost 50 euros for two people. And then there were no controls at the border, anyway. What a sham. Anyway, RIP Italy.
 
Get ready when they call for the next dose.
I don't really care if they want us to take another at some point, like I said I'm not very worried about it given it's a traditional vaccine, at worst it provides no protection. I will continue to refuse the mRNA vaccines though, even if they want us to get them someday.

The only annoying thing is that I seriously doubt any western country will accept the vaccine I got for travel purposes, but whatever, I don't expect to be able to travel again for years at this rate given the mass hysteria that's still ongoing.
 
What's the reason for the PhDs not wanting it?
The drop outs I get, as they're more likely to be black, therefore it's a matter of trust.
Not sure about phd but among healthcare workers theres a few groups.
Dont want it:
1. CNA/RNs who are into essential oils.
2. Mid level staff, rns, techs, etc who know enough to know its pointless/could be dangerous.
3. Older MDs.

Do want it:
1. Every sort of younger MD. The most zealous. They have loans to pay, fellowships to get. These people got a memo to jump off the roof they would do it in a heartbeat. Dont know more than anyone else but they have to conform. They were told to get the vaccine so they jumped the 937272th hoop to get that 200k job to pay off their loans. They evangelize to show how part of the team they can be.
2. peer pressured employees.
3. True believers, people who jack off to unvaxxed patients and coworkers dying. RNs mainly.
4. Management. This is a stat from the top they are told to push and they are pushy. They want that 6 figure executive job and the others want to show they are team players.

Healthcare workers are vaxxed 50-60%.
 
Facts over feelings. People absolutely refuse to realize that the world ending coof. Was a sham.
I think some of it is sunk cost fallacy.

If they thought that the coof was a sham, then they would realize that they just lost a year of their lives (and more), so they have to double down.

The only chance that they have now is if Sain Fauci says that COVID was bad before, but it's less deadly now, which he will never do because he and the CDC will never give up their emergency powers voluntarily and have outright said that they are going to make the courts stop them.
 
I think most South East Asian countries mainly use the chinese one.

Morocco too. Whole family basically got Chinese vaccine in Morocco.

Anecdotally, older relative was vaccinated & now has covid (still seeing Singapore claim 85% efficacy). Family freaked out and took her to the hospital for basically no reason, where she sat talking on the phone & could still get up and walk around easily...was also put on oxygen, mainly so sham doctors could update her kids on oxygen levels, which were slightly lower than normal range. Then sham doctor claimed to have some magic "covid medicine" which he sold to them for 2000USD, but only after she was already halfway out the door going back home. Zero clue what is in the "covid medicine," if anything.

Great time to be a doctor, with such a terrified, easily exploitable group of customers patients.
 
Good news, everyone!
The Coof can totally be eradicated, as comparison with polio and smallpox shows!

  • With the success of public health and social measures (PHSMs) at eliminating COVID-19 in several jurisdictions, combined with the arrival of safe and highly effective vaccines, the question is raised: is global eradication of COVID-19 feasible?
  • Our scoring for eradicability suggests that COVID-19 eradication might be slightly more feasible than for polio (although only two of three serotypes eradicated to date), but much less so than smallpox.
  • The main challenges are probably around achieving high vaccination coverage and the potential need to update vaccine designs. Yet an advantage for COVID-19 eradication, over that for smallpox and polio, is that PHSMs can complement vaccination. There is also very high global interest in COVID-19 control due to the massive scale of the health, social and economic burden.
  • There is a need for a more formal expert review of the feasibility and desirability of attempting COVID-19 eradication by the WHO or coalitions of national health agencies.
The Coof can be eradicated! We just need to keep up the restrictions and masks and distancing for n more weeks!
 
Good news, everyone!
The Coof can totally be eradicated, as comparison with polio and smallpox shows!

  • With the success of public health and social measures (PHSMs) at eliminating COVID-19 in several jurisdictions, combined with the arrival of safe and highly effective vaccines, the question is raised: is global eradication of COVID-19 feasible?
  • Our scoring for eradicability suggests that COVID-19 eradication might be slightly more feasible than for polio (although only two of three serotypes eradicated to date), but much less so than smallpox.
  • The main challenges are probably around achieving high vaccination coverage and the potential need to update vaccine designs. Yet an advantage for COVID-19 eradication, over that for smallpox and polio, is that PHSMs can complement vaccination. There is also very high global interest in COVID-19 control due to the massive scale of the health, social and economic burden.
  • There is a need for a more formal expert review of the feasibility and desirability of attempting COVID-19 eradication by the WHO or coalitions of national health agencies.
The Coof can be eradicated! We just need to keep up the restrictions and masks and distancing for n more weeks!
Funny to see this right after Youtube censored Rand Paul pointing out that the animal reservoirs mean it can never be eradicated.
 
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