Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

[Prophetic Spirit]

Why do you people not just call him Jerry? Lily, Lilliana, pfft. Guy's name is Jerry, his titties, in addition to being small, are fake, and he's obviously a heavy autogynephile, guy straight up says you don't need to have dysphoria to be trans. Total transtrender in every sense of the word.

Well, i thought the same months ago but i dropped entirely.
At this point she's shit, before trans and after trans. I don't mind.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

Well, i thought the same months ago but i dropped entirely.
At this point she's shit, before trans and after trans. I don't mind.

Basically my own thoughts. She's a shitty person, a predator, a stupid cunt without a drop of talent and a gross individual I'd keep kids away from. Calling her one way or another doesn't change that, nor makes me less likely to call her out for it.
Speaking of, Liliana, you're full of shit. Everyone here knows the only reason you "tolerate" Amity at all is because of her romance with Luz and the only reason you hated her before was because she changed as the season went on.
What kind of reasoning too is "this character went through a lot of trauma but they are WHITE, therefore we should add more to it"? Even if we ignore that there's nothing non white about your pale self, you do realize that Mikaila, your future wife, is still white, right?

 

[Ben Laden]

A lot of people are of the belief that all it really takes to be a 'woman' is to say you're a woman. That's enough. Trans people shouldn't have to prove they're trans to anyone. If you believe that gender is a meaningless concept than yeah, that makes sense. Me saying I identify as a demi-boy right now is about as equally valid as Lily saying she's a woman for five years. It doesn't matter how much effort she puts into sounding or looking like a woman, she said she's a woman and that should be the end of that.

Of course, you might see an obvious problem with that mindset. It's the exact same one that gave rise to the 'attack-helicopter' memes. If gender literally means nothing, than I can identify in any way I want, and if I wanna be a bicycle that's just as valid as someone actively trying to change themselves to look more like how they feel on the inside. I know the LGBT want to be as inclusive and accepting as possible. A lot of people already have to face harassment at work, from families, online, etc. they don't wanna be harassed in the one place they think they're supposed to be safe from it...but maybe you guys should gatekeep your community a little harder? Autogynephiles are a thing, and is it right for them to be given any kind of special acceptance or treatment as 'real' transpeople when their entire identity is basically just a fetish? They aren't woman because they think they were born wrong or have some chemical inbalance in their brains they can't control, they're women because the thought of being a sexy woman makes their penis hard. They're a totally different thing from being trans.

All this is to say I use Lily's preferred name and pronouns, but I'm still skeptical that this identity is anything besides a sex fantasy for them. Though, if that's the case she's not really having lots of hot lesbian sex if she's with Mikaila, is she?...I just remembered she's into futa so I guess it still checks out.

Guess it doesn't matter either way. A rose by any other name is still a pedophile.

 

[Mac Tíre na Gealaí]

For me it's a case of while I may not have any respect for Lily, I have respect for trans people. Honestly, I've considered on-and-off using her deadname and masculine pronouns, but ultimately I feel that would just make me shitty, petty, and a hypocritical asshole based on my own values. I've never brought up my problems with other people doing it here because, I mean, look at where we are. I'm not gonna change anyone's mind here. I don't like it but I tolerate it because this is pretty much the only place that has actual critical discussion on the topic of Lily and how shitty she is.

Another point I've considered is that Lily loves to use anything she can to de-legitimize arguments or critiques against her, the biggest one people labeling someone transphobic. While I know that she will come up with excuses no matter what, I personally feel it's good practice to give her as little fodder as possible. Even when she engages in bad-faith and invents excuses to de-legitimize discourse, showing that we can be respectful can go a long way. It's one of the reasons I even started engaging here instead of just lurking, thanks to folk like Duine In Cudromach for being insightful, level-headed, and not needlessly transphobic. And personally I feel if more people here shared a similar sentiment it would be easier to pull people out from Lily's cult. Imagine one of her followers goes to see what Lily's been talking about when she refers to "the vultures/stalkers" and they find this thread. Many people are immediately turned away by the transphobia outright, but some stay and dig deeper and are able to see Lily for who she truly is. If we had fewer people turned away from the onset then her position would crumble all the more.

I know my opinion is ultimately in the minority here on the farms, but just wanted to share my 2 cents on the topic since it's been something I've been thinking of even before joining months ago.

 

[starborn427614]

I've no problem respecting a person's identity (or if you want to be dramatic humanity and/or dignity), but that's not the same as respect in general. You have to earn that.

 

[Pyre]

Trans women are women.

Trans women are women

Lmfao

Another point I've considered is that Lily loves to use anything she can to de-legitimize arguments or critiques against her, the biggest one people labeling someone transphobic. While I know that she will come up with excuses no matter what, I personally feel it's good practice to give her as little fodder as possible.

Dude, if it's negative Jerry's spastic fans won't believe it regardless of how nicely it's worded.

 

[Lurk Jurk]

Incels who want to be anime girls aren't women.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

I think we're starting to derail here. We have the pronoun/name discourse every few hundreds post and all it does for us is make us ignore what Liliana's currently doing while arguing between each other, as if there was any point to it. Nobody's going to change their mind because of any of our post.

We all dislike Liliana. We all came here to criticize her takes, her videos, her writing and her actions. That's enough. After that everyone can make up their own mind about how they want to approach their criticism of her.

 

[Suck the Cock]

I think we're starting to derail here. We have the pronoun/name discourse every few hundreds post and all it does for us is make us ignore what Liliana's currently doing while arguing between each other, as if there was any point to it. Nobody's going to change their mind because of any of our post.

We all dislike Liliana. We all came here to criticize her takes, her videos, her writing and her actions. That's enough. After that everyone can make up their own mind about how they want to approach their criticism of her.

What's wrong with discussing everyone's individual opinions? Is Jerry doing anything interesting at the moment? Just bring it up, we'll get around to it. We don't make posts here to change people's minds, just to keep things interesting. It's not some moral crusade we're on, and I quite enjoy hearing everyone's takes, considering Jerry hasn't done much of interest in the past couple days.

And in that vein:

Lmfao

Man, you can't read a room. Or my post, for that matter. Don't go around trying to preach to me, you're not gonna get anywhere.

 

[saladimitate]

while arguing between each other

What's wrong with discussing everyone's individual opinions? Is Jerry doing anything interesting at the moment? Just bring it up, we'll get around to it. We don't make posts here to change people's minds, just to keep things interesting. It's not some moral crusade we're on, and I quite enjoy hearing everyone's takes, considering Jerry hasn't done much of interest in the past couple days.

And in that vein:

Man, you can't read a room. Or my post, for that matter. Don't go around trying to preach to me, you're not gonna get anywhere.

Thanks for proving Goku right there, bud.

Either way, I call Jerry Jerry because he just simply doesn't deserve the respect yada yada yada. Point is that what we call him over here doesn't matter, either way, none of his cultists are gonna want to come over here on this site because of the reputation Kiwifarms has. If you want to use proof, then use the actual archive posts and not links to a kiwi post.
Plus I think most of us when talking about Jerry outside the Farms, do the "logical" thing and use his "proper" pronouns.

 

[Son Goku Baku]

What's wrong with discussing everyone's individual opinions? Is Jerry doing anything interesting at the moment? Just bring it up, we'll get around to it. We don't make posts here to change people's minds, just to keep things interesting. It's not some moral crusade we're on, and I quite enjoy hearing everyone's takes, considering Jerry hasn't done much of interest in the past couple days.

To give some suggestions:

Mikaila updated the banner of the channel. Liliana looks high and for some reason Mikaila only put shadow on the face, but not the hair or the clothing, like she just got bored halfway through.

Liliana shared this post discussing how The Owl House's actually racist, so we should be prepared for a "The Owl House is Garbage and here's why" video that'll most likely copy it word by word.

i love toh but it’s got a race issue and idk how to begin talking about it
ok im gonna talk about it anyway. so firstly. luz is canonically afrolatine. she’s afro-dominicana. but this was only confirmed outside of the source material in a livestream. and they never acknowledge her blackness at all. they didn’t even give her curly hair lmao and they gave her mom straight hair too even though she’s the one who’s afro-dominicana.

all of the characters of color in toh are brushed aside for white characters. super horribly violent white characters are forgiven and sympathized with while characters like gus and willow are totally ignored in favor of them. like i love amity but she was super mean at first and now she gets all the screentime meanwhile gus and willow are just used for comic relief.

luz is super whitewashed and the only thing that shows shes latine is her skin tone and the fact that she speaks spanish sometimes. again, the fact that she’s AFROlatine was only ever confirmed outside of the show in a throwaway line during a live stream

and don’t get me started with the racist accent they gave the bat queen. she’s clearly asian or at least asian coded and they made her speak in “broken” English too like how racist can you GET

hello? hellooooo!!!! is anyone seeing this?

It's difficult to take seriously "they brushed characters of color in favor of white characters" when Luz's still the protagonist.

Further post of Liliana confirming she's really leaning into this interpretation.

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr

I just want to say that it's so refreshing to see takes on Hunter that's not just "UWU BABEY BOI !!11! <3" The way the fandom has become so enamored with Yet Another Blond White Boy has...

lily-orchard.tumblr.com

I mean they did the same thing with Amity before she was revealed to be gay and subsequently gained a personality. The Owl House fandom’s open racism and white favouritism is not hidden and has been commented on by many people.

We all saw this coming. The moment we saw part of the Golden Guard’s face, we all knew that skeezy people were going to flock to this guy like flies.

The Golden Guard was only interesting in Separate Tides and the very start of Hunting Palismen when he was a Vanitas-like shitheel. But once his mask came off and he started his wangst, he was just “another broken white boy.” Just… another one.

This feel like just rehashing her hatred for Kylo Ren. I guess stanning Golden Guard would have been all fine with her if only he was darker. Nevermind that darker characters being villain's exactly the kind of negative stereotype that actual critics have mentioned thousands of times to avoid.

Can Liliana really just enjoy things? On their own, not because of spite? It's healthy to keep a critical mindset about the media you consume, but with Liliana and how rapidly she flip flops between "this's the best thing ever" and "this's the worst thing ever" this tendency looks more pathological and performative than anything.

Edit: I searched her name on Twitter to see if something was up there and some people are rightfully dunking on her for blaming internet bullying for someone raping their own mother.

https://twitter.com/ballzymcghee/status/1423652455234129921?s=20

https://twitter.com/KissyMimsy/status/1424015944452562947?s=20

https://twitter.com/mysaggynut/status/1423528895094087682?s=20

https://twitter.com/CartoonFan1994/status/1422179875180400644?s=20

https://twitter.com/PleaseNigeria/status/1422036667351937028?s=20

https://twitter.com/Lambpaw/status/1421607857573744646?s=20

https://twitter.com/milisvanirich/status/1421569714241916929?s=20

Twitter is bad but sometimes has good in it.

It seems she deleted her tweets defending Chris Chan.

https://twitter.com/CartoonFan1994/status/1421936008715804673?s=20

 

[Chapter Master Tu'Shan]

To give some suggestions:

Mikaila updated the banner of the channel. Liliana looks high and for some reason Mikaila only put shadow on the face, but not the hair or the clothing, like she just got bored halfway through.

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Liliana shared this post discussing how The Owl House's actually racist, so we should be prepared for a "The Owl House is Garbage and here's why" video that'll most likely copy it word by word.


It's difficult to take seriously "they brushed characters of color in favor of white characters" when Luz's still the protagonist.

Further post of Liliana confirming she's really leaning into this interpretation.

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr

I just want to say that it's so refreshing to see takes on Hunter that's not just "UWU BABEY BOI !!11! <3" The way the fandom has become so enamored with Yet Another Blond White Boy has...

lily-orchard.tumblr.com

This feel like just rehashing her hatred for Kylo Ren. I guess stanning Golden Guard would have been all fine with her if only he was darker. Nevermind that darker characters being villain's exactly the kind of negative estereotype that actual critics have mentioned thousands of times to avoid.

Fucking identity politics man. They've gone so woke that they're just short of openly demanding for characters conform to racial stereotypes, cause they can't conceptualize the idea of having an identity beyond group identity anymore. And they don't even realise how fucking racist that is.
"Owl House is bad because Luz isn't a walking caricature of an Afrolatina!" Go fuck yourself, Lily!

And of course Lily's primary problem with Hunter is that he's white.
Because as we know, one's racial identity is the only thing that matters to one's merit as a person.
Now who else held this sort of mindset? Oh yeah, the fucking Nazis did.

 

[ÁchtunaRoll]

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr, Getting sick of defensive assholes go…

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Considering her views are taking a nose dive and she’s making ends meet via patreon it’s really a now or never thing to get her hooks deep enough into Mikay so she’ll have a doormat for life. Not that that girl had my sympathies much these days.
ETA:

Lily Orchard on Twitter: "@the_moviebob I'm sure you could be. You ju…

archived 11 Aug 2021 23:31:53 UTC

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MovieBob is telling her she’s out of order but Lily misunderstood and doubled down on her hatred for contra

 

[starborn427614]

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Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr, Getting sick of defensive assholes go…

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Considering her views are taking a nose dive and she’s making ends meet via patreon it’s really a now or never thing to get her hooks deep enough into Mikay so she’ll have a doormat for life. Not that that girl had my sympathies much these days.
ETA:

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Lily Orchard on Twitter: "@the_moviebob I'm sure you could be. You ju…

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MovieBob is telling her she’s out of order but Lily misunderstood and doubled down on her hatred for contra

When fucking MOVIE BOB is telling you to tone it down you need a reality check

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

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Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr, Getting sick of defensive assholes go…

archived 11 Aug 2021 23:02:08 UTC

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Considering her views are taking a nose dive and she’s making ends meet via patreon it’s really a now or never thing to get her hooks deep enough into Mikay so she’ll have a doormat for life. Not that that girl had my sympathies much these days.
ETA:

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Lily Orchard on Twitter: "@the_moviebob I'm sure you could be. You ju…

archived 11 Aug 2021 23:31:53 UTC

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MovieBob is telling her she’s out of order but Lily misunderstood and doubled down on her hatred for contra

I love that part of Lily. She can give a shit about everything, being hated for being a bitch but if daddy bob tells her to shut the fuck up, she obeys at a certain point and still going close to a "threat" against a more sucesfull youtuber.
Wonderful.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Isn't Lily's new YouTube banner just a trace of one of her old twitter pics/shit comic panels?

That's the true cringe.

 

[King_Boo_Official]

To give some suggestions:

Mikaila updated the banner of the channel. Liliana looks high and for some reason Mikaila only put shadow on the face, but not the hair or the clothing, like she just got bored halfway through.

View attachment 2435691

Liliana shared this post discussing how The Owl House's actually racist, so we should be prepared for a "The Owl House is Garbage and here's why" video that'll most likely copy it word by word.


It's difficult to take seriously "they brushed characters of color in favor of white characters" when Luz's still the protagonist.

Further post of Liliana confirming she's really leaning into this interpretation.

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr

I just want to say that it's so refreshing to see takes on Hunter that's not just "UWU BABEY BOI !!11! <3" The way the fandom has become so enamored with Yet Another Blond White Boy has...

lily-orchard.tumblr.com

This feel like just rehashing her hatred for Kylo Ren. I guess stanning Golden Guard would have been all fine with her if only he was darker. Nevermind that darker characters being villain's exactly the kind of negative stereotype that actual critics have mentioned thousands of times to avoid.

Can Liliana really just enjoy things? On their own, not because of spite? It's healthy to keep a critical mindset about the media you consume, but with Liliana and how rapidly she flip flops between "this's the best thing ever" and "this's the worst thing ever" this tendency looks more pathological and performative than anything.

Edit: I searched her name on Twitter to see if something was up there and some people are rightfully dunking on her for blaming internet bullying for someone raping their own mother.

https://twitter.com/ballzymcghee/status/1423652455234129921?s=20

https://twitter.com/KissyMimsy/status/1424015944452562947?s=20

https://twitter.com/mysaggynut/status/1423528895094087682?s=20

https://twitter.com/CartoonFan1994/status/1422179875180400644?s=20

https://twitter.com/PleaseNigeria/status/1422036667351937028?s=20

https://twitter.com/Lambpaw/status/1421607857573744646?s=20

https://twitter.com/milisvanirich/status/1421569714241916929?s=20

Twitter is bad but sometimes has good in it.

It seems she deleted her tweets defending Chris Chan.

https://twitter.com/CartoonFan1994/status/1421936008715804673?s=20

Pain. Always, if it isn't one thing, it's another. If a villain is white, that's a problem, if they're dark skinned, that's a problem.
It sure does seem that every instance of Lily "acknowledging problematic aspects of things she likes" is the beginning of a downward spiral into outright hatred. We'll just have to wait and see.
Twitter is nether good or bad. It depends on where you go, and the people who use it.

Spoiler: Need Some Archives

Off-topic, but I need you guys' help. I've got a big project coming up (a couple of weeks or so) and I need sources. If you would kindly take however much time you have available to scour Lily's Tumblr and find instances of her talking about Bury Your Gays, Voltron, or both, I'd be most grateful. I'll be sure to link the finished article to anybody who's interested once it's ready.

 

[Duine In Cudromach]

https://archive.ph/PcF1t

To the top: isn't Lily basically a shut-in? I know she complained about wearing a mask on a plane months and months ago but I think that was specifically a trip to visit one of her girlfriends. She's said before that COVID didn't affect her because she never leaves the house (yet somehow caught it twice in as many months, impressive!) and only got upset because it pushed back her plans to entrap marry Mikaila. Maybe it's just a weird hyperbole about how Youtube is 'her job and gives her money, but it's such a weird way to put it.

Also doesn't really answer the question. I'm not going to begrudge any adult for making money off cartoon critique, but generally speaking, you kind of get the idea that they have broader interests than that in the way they examine cartoons or reference other media when they talk. But Lily keeps to a very small pool of reference-- Star Wars, World of Warcraft, Kingdom Hearts, a handful of cartoons, sometimes Friends. She's insisted multiple times that she has broader interests but doesn't talk about them so people don't pester her about them, but has never actually made any indications that her 'world' extends beyond a small number of fixations.


To the bottom: what?

I thought Lily's problem with 'addiction-based programming' was that you kept people strung along week after week waiting for the resolution to the previous episode. Netflix's whole deal is that it releases whole seasons (or half-seasons, at least) at once and you can binge through them, which satiates curiosity. If she calls tension and anticipation factors of 'addiction', then Netflix's model is significantly better than Disney's.

Especially in regards to subscription-based services. With Netflix, if you're interested in a specific show you sign up for a month (possibly even a free month), you can watch it all together, you move on. With Disney+ doing weekly serialization like a cable network, it forces you to maintain your subscription and keep coming back weekly in order to get your resolution.

Unless--

Unless all this time -- all this time -- Lily has used the phrase 'addition-peddling' to refer to binge watching.

There are-- the English language incorporates standardized idioms. 'Binge-watching' has been a standardized idiom for like a decade and she decided to call it 'addiction peddling', and then managed to not even be able to define it in a way that can be connected to a recognizable term?

I know she doesn't understand a surprising amount of terminology related to her fields of interest but are you fucking kidding me?!

 

[ShiftyBoi]

If the incredibly important and relevant political discussion is over, we have some choice Lily moments from today.
Edit: Achtuna already archived this but I can't reply in edits and his post is the previous page anyway xoxo

Whining about cartoons is just a job, get over it man-babies.

Lily Orchard's Official Tumblr, There isn’t really anything wrong wit…

archived 11 Aug 2021 23:58:35 UTC

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Yeah get some real taste you fucking pleb. Only the most refined lesbian AU fanfics are worth any salt around here.

I just love that these happened within an hour of each other. Lily is just a cynical pragmatic working man, trying to nickel and dime her way into a comfortable life, but at the same time, she knows what real taste is from her years of browsing TV tropes and Kingdom Hearts spreadsheets.

 

[Pyre]

Lily is just a cynical pragmatic working man

How transphobic. Now we'll never convince the masses that Lily is a bad person.