Chris court appearance

[Chazzed Up]

I don’t know, would it really surprise at this point to find out the guy who fucked his elderly mother was a kinky sexual deviant all along?

Could be, I was just musing in regards to the original question brought up earlier about if he realizes the trolling done to him was often a fake scenario and he was partcipating in a roleplay of sorts, or if he thinks it's real. Based on his overall lack of empathy in all of his interactions, even if he thought girlfriends were really kidnapped or killed he probably wouldn't respond too emotionally. So it's hard to say what goes on in his fucked up head.

 

[Ser Ciappelletto]

This has been my suspicion for a while too.

Spoiler: Armchair diagnosis sperg

Either something chromosomal, mosaicism, or might be something extremely exceptional as chimerism.
The House MD episode "Cane & Able" comes to mind.

Nothing about Chris makes sense: it's almost like we have been shown the Jekyll and the Hyde and people choose their favorite version.
Chris himself tried to take advantage of the misunderstanding by addressing "Christian" and "Christopher" as conveniently separated personalities at times.

We'll probably never find out how severe his neurological impairment really is.

It's often been speculated that he has XXY due to his misshapen body, reasoning difficulties and rage problems.

 

[Vapid_Idiot]

Could be, I was just musing in regards to the original question brought up earlier about if he realizes the trolling done to him was often a fake scenario and he was partcipating in a roleplay of sorts, or if he thinks it's real. Based on his overall lack of empathy in all of his interactions, even if he thought girlfriends were really kidnapped or killed he probably wouldn't respond too emotionally. So it's hard to say what goes on in his fucked up head.

I agree, Chris is just really fucked in the head. The only sense I can make that motivates him to be such a fucking idiot is that outside of his crazy world of trolls, blue arms, and heartsweets is that his day to day life in 14 BLC is really mundane, boring, and depressing. If something menial as Bob talking to a Burger King employee becomes something he journals about, being harassed by trolls is at least attention coming his way, even if in his mind he knows is mostly negative.

 

[SpaceCow]

I think the fact that Chris has yet to be diagnosed as a schizo is about all their is to say on the topic until if/when that changes.

Do you think we'll end up with a real diagnosis via the examinations Chris will undergo? I'd love to hear what a professional thinks. You're right, we've been armchair diagnosing him for years, but there's really not much else we can do.

 

[cwcvillemayoress]

I wonder if they cut Chris's hair yet.
I remember reading that inmates have to cut their hair to prevent the spread of lice.

 

[lolwut]

Yeah I think the armchair psychiatry going on in this thread is kind of dumb. You can be schizophrenic and not think you’re being chased by gnomes all the time, or you can sometimes be delusional enough to think The Merge is happening and other times be lucid enough to pay the bills. The actual diagnostic requirements are here.

There’s also a lot of other illnesses you can have. This board tends to act like there are only three mental illnesses and they’re Autism, Frothing Insanity, and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

I think the fact that Chris has yet to be diagnosed as a schizo is about all their is to say on the topic until if/when that changes.

I agree, and I'd like to remind all our new post merge frens that every possible angle of psychoanalysis has already been debated to death across dozens, if not hundreds of threads, across disco, spergatory, and 4chan for a solid decade now. We are not treading new ground.

LMAO

that is thunk provoking because Chris is a liar , hes narcissistic and a master manipulator, but hes mentally ill , enough to think in his world that all this shit was / is okay, but i am very much curious to hear about his mental evals since being arrested

good point , but that does not mean he does not have SZ or something similar, conditions get overlooked and mis-dx'd all the time, we are all very curious to find out what this latest eval reveals though.

For god's sake, just use multiquote. And maybe some grammar.

 

[NOT THE BEEEEES!]

Besides autism, the only sort of psychiatric diagnosis Chris plausibly has is narcissistic personality disorder.

As has already been said, psychotic delusions are unshakeable without medication. And they often focus on things going on with the outside world or other people. Stuff like driving to a celebrity's house because you believe they're your secret lover, trying to kill your neighbor because you believe he's pumping poison gas into your house or going down massive rabbit holes about secret service organizations.

Chris has done nothing of this sort. And has on multiple occasions shown he can stop his role playing and magical thinking if the situation requires it. Had Chris been psychotic at his hearing, he wouldn't have cared about pronouns or toys.

He gives off covert narc vibes

 

[RavioliHabit]

I had been wondering if Randy Stair might have been entering the onset of becoming schizo since he mentioned shit like hearing voices and having hallucinations. But I read recently that he had been found with quite a bit of benadryl in his system, and I reconsidered if perhaps he had been abusing that and fucking up his mind. He was much more lucid most of the time than Chris though and I somewhat doubted his actual belief in the waifu religion shit.

Randy Stair was definitely showing symptoms of schizophrenia based on his age (onset for men is usually early 20s), his paranoia and disjointed thoughts, and the fact that he literally thought he was chosen by a Danny Phantom cartoon character to join them in a 'spiritual war' and killed himself and others because of it.

I don't believe that Chris-chan is schizo, just has a whole other slew of issues with autism and narcissism and he wants to believe in his Sonichu-merge-whatever larp.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

There’s also a lot of other illnesses you can have. This board tends to act like there are only three mental illnesses and they’re Autism, Frothing Insanity, and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Hey, that's bullshit and you know it. We also recognize rampant troonery.

Do you think we'll end up with a real diagnosis via the examinations Chris will undergo? I'd love to hear what a professional thinks. You're right, we've been armchair diagnosing him for years, but there's really not much else we can do.

Any diagnosis we get in the near future, I believe, will be slanted towards the defense. So expect something that paints Chris as being insane, but in a "he obviously couldn't help this but he's not crazy enough to be put in a home forever" sort of grey area.

 

[Chazzed Up]

Randy Stair was definitely showing symptoms of schizophrenia based on his age (onset for men is usually early 20s), his paranoia and disjointed thoughts, and the fact that he literally thought he was chosen by a Danny Phantom cartoon character to join them in a 'spiritual war' and killed himself and others because of it.

If he really was habitually abusing benadryl, I could still see that possibly being related to some of his self-described issues like mood swings and depression. I find it odd that he had it in his system the day he died. Not like you need to worry about allergies before a shooting spree. Maybe he tried to knock himself out with it to sleep before the shooting. That's all I could come up with.

Unlike Chris though I think Randy knew that his beliefs were stupid. He even states several times that what he believes is crazy. I think he wanted to spite his parents for wanting him to be a responsible adult and for not noticing his tranny tendencies. I've never been able to conclude for sure what I thought his motive was, but I think the Ember stuff was just an excuse for something he already wanted to do, kill himself, likely due to undiagnosed mental illnesses. And as he himself said, turning that into a shooting spree punished his parents publicly.

 

[Shanndog]

I agree, and I'd like to remind all our new post merge frens that every possible angle of psychoanalysis has already been debated to death across dozens, if not hundreds of threads, across disco, spergatory, and 4chan for a solid decade now. We are not treading new ground.



For god's sake, just use multiquote. And maybe some grammar.

( just added to multi quote ) and my keyboard sucks so typing's not perfect

 

[make_it_so]

When I was going through the school system (not in the US) they used to separate IQ into verbal and analytical. The thinking was that some people could express a large vocabulary but still have relatively little going on upstairs and vice versa.

Sounds like the perfect explanation for MovieBob.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

This has been my suspicion for a while too.

Spoiler: Armchair diagnosis sperg

Either something chromosomal, mosaicism, or might be something extremely exceptional as chimerism.
The House MD episode "Cane & Able" comes to mind.

Nothing about Chris makes sense: it's almost like we have been shown the Jekyll and the Hyde and people choose their favorite version.
Chris himself tried to take advantage of the misunderstanding by addressing "Christian" and "Christopher" as conveniently separated personalities at times.

We'll probably never find out how severe his neurological impairment really is.

Which is why I'm amazed that nobody has ever swiped a DNA sample from Chris (any number of ways to do this) and sent it off for testing/sequencing. It costs less than $100 for a simple health screening, and a good complete sequencing only costs $1300.

EDIT: You could probably even get Chris to go along with it if you explained that it was to help him prove his Anchuent Cherokian roots.

 

[StraightShooter2]

What evidence do we have that she did not talk Chris into it?

Doesn't matter if she 'talked him into it' anymore than if someone 'talked Chris into' macing the Gamestop manager. The law isn't going to let a person off the hook just because some weirdo on the internet 'talked them into' raping their elderly mother.

The only way that's going to fly here is if Chris' manages to get off on the insanity defense - then maybe if the court decides he wasn't capable of being responsible for his actions, that Bella could be charged for manipulating him into doing it. (Or they could try to get her on the apparent admission that her goal was to humiliate Chris so hard that he killed himself).

However there is a decent amount of evidence of Chris acknowledging what he did even outside of the Bella texts and calls - such as him sending a message to Null mentioning his "50+ year old girlfriend who was a major in accounting" and posting a photo of a book he purchased on how to have sex with the disabled.

There does seem to be quite a lot of dirt on Bella for stuff completely unrelated to Chris, however if some people are basically just "white-knighting" Chris and viewing Bella as a scapegoat because they don't want to acknowledge Chris' own culpability, that's definitely unnecessary.

 

[Chazzed Up]

There does seem to be quite a lot of dirt on Bella for stuff completely unrelated to Chris, however if some people are basically just "white-knighting" Chris and viewing Bella as a scapegoat because they don't want to acknowledge Chris' own culpability, that's definitely unnecessary.

Yeah, I feel pretty uncomfortable with the idea of acting like Chris's culpability should be reduced. Like I said, Chris's actions were so outside of what a normal person woud do, that I can't see someone who isn't already a danger pursuing those actions. Suggestions or innuendos made to him should not be a call to action. His delusions and narcissism always made him a target of trolling but clearly they also made him capable of really reprehensible things.

There needs to be some demarcation between holding Chris accountable for his own decisions, and then proper scrutiny of anyone else who might have been an accessory. Even if there was any coercion involved it is still horrifying to think someone could just need a little push to rape their mother. It's not a defense of Bella and her cohorts, it's stating the reality that some have avoided, that being that Chris's mental decline (whether inevitable or helped along) made him unable to safely be around others. He was enabled in doing that for a long time by a lot of factors/people.

 

[blackboots]

The takes on Chris being a sociopath could be true since Chris doesn't show concern for anyone real or imaginary like how he forced his "son" to be in his shitty unhealthy body because he couldn't attend a pony convention.

Fwiw: that's exceptionally common among the tumblrina trans, LARPing like it's real, the psuedo-religious "beliefs" in crystals, Tarot, play-pretend 'but is it really??' astrology and all that crowd. Including the psuedo new-age fake religion "all fictional worlds are real in another plane uwu!!!" All of it. Even calling him "his son." And the psuedo- multiple personalities, and having one "take over." And we already know he echoes what all other trans do wrt, "muh pronouns!!!"

So no. This doesn't indicate ANY schitzo-typical behavior, but rather, the continuation of his low social IQ and typical retard thing where they copy others to look "normal," but don't understand how to correctly apply it, because it's situational. People like Chris see "respect my pronouns," and can't get any sense of nuance out of it and think that + the other women telling him "I don't feel safe [with you, a creepy rapist]" as a magic spell where everyone bends over backwards to accommodate the threatened, and admonish the threatening.

Chris logic: I am a woman now because "everyone" told me that's how it works, and whenever I skeeve out women they say I don't feel safe and everyone helped them and yelled at me. So if **I** (a woman tm) say I don't feel safe, everyone will stop everything and do the same to fix the bad things and yell at the judge to white knight save me!!!

He may think the merge is real, but that's sadly still part of the ongoing trans stuff wannabe cult goddess, and it's immaterial. You don't get sent to institutions just for saying "demons told me to," (trolls, demons, same thing for this purpose) or "I'm a goddess, your Earthly laws are antiquated and don't apply to me" - that didn't work for Jesus, it won't work for you. Being insane =\= legally culpable. You're still liable if it was premeditated (see book!), and avoidable. "I didn't know it was wrong," isn't an excuse, and is already disproven.

And his lawyer knows that and is going more towards, "his diminished capacity made it ripe for trolls [Bella especially] to make him unable to discern right from wrong." Less the trolls/voices/autism/crazy made him do it, and more, the immense pressure of trolling warped his moral compass (at minimum). This is for the idea that he could be fixed, not permanently locked away. Just needs a permanent yard wrangler to protect him from the trolls etc.

Schizophrenia is one of the "easier" to medicate, albeit depressing af, but because of the harm it often causes to oneself (taint piercing, burning the house down and the rest are truly mild compared to mutilation and running from rooftops to escape demons stuff others get up to) psychiatrists don't fuck around with it. If Chris had shown any symptoms of it for real, he'd have been on meds around puberty. He's not schizo. He might be FAS, XXY, some other borderline stuff, sure, plausible. But not schizophrenia. I look forward to him meeting a true schizo in prison or psych. Either way they will NOT put up with his shit. Even more if they became "friends." Chris' schtick wouldn't go over well. They can be pretty paranoid. So even if they believed Chris at first, it'd get shut down quickly the second they saw through his pathetic bullshit. And they might teach him true paranoia. "Copy this, bitch."

 

[Fapcop]

Besides the difference in behavior between a True and Honest schizo and Chris, there’s also the issue of onset.

Schizophrenia typically hits in males in their 20ies, when Chris was busy being Classic Chris.

All the “schizo” Chris nonsense like The Merge, etc. didn’t hit Chris until his mid-30ies, which again points to a case of “I’m getting older and my life isn’t what I thought It’d be”-sads rather than an actual psychiatric illness.

(Chris also might have some ehm, unconventional beliefs regarding crystals, alternative dimensions, etc. but they’re hardly crazy-unconventional.)

It’ll be interesting to see what both the prosecutor and the defense comes up with in terms of psychiatric reports, though I don’t expect them to differ that much in any actual psychiatric illnesses.

More in the conclusions. For example both reports would likely diagnose Chris with autism, but the defense’s export would focus on how his autism combined with trolling made Chris unable to discern between normal and abnormal behavior and should therefore be treated compassionately, while the prosecutions report will conclude that he might be a tard but he’s a tard who’s responsible for his actions.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

He’s LARPing on Twitter and unfortunately got encouraged to continue doing so by weens who wanted some of his autistic stardust.

Even without weens. What was his comic in a nutshell? Self-insert power fantasy. People use this to feel better about themselves and let's be honest, Chrises reality isn't something you would like to be in. People gave me shit for comparing his "schizophrenia" with children who have imaginary friends, even though one look at Chris is enough to understand - this man can't be considered adult. He was still playing with toys and legos just like kid - giving voices to everyone etc. Fuck, this man believed in Santa in his 20's. He was never forced to mature beyond that point, so he never did. His Merge/Goddess shit is basically a kid putting a blanket on his back and calling himself Superman. Now imagine if this kid never grew up and kept doing it for years.

I've gone back to the Geno documentaries, and his aunt dies and the funeral is planned for his 27th birthday. He moans he'll miss a pancake meal planned with the church. This is a man with ZERO empathy. It's no wonder he sees himself a God, because frankly, he's the text book solipsist.

That's also because he is a textbook consoomer. When in 2017 he wa asked about his biggest regret, what did he say? ShecameforCWC? Shoving his medallion? Running over Snyder or macing a guy at Gamestop? Nope, he regretted that he couldn't eat Wallmart cake after filming Cakefarts. Let that sink in.

Can you point to one similarly crazy thing Chris has done IRL?

Nope, in fact he would always break from this LARP when something would happen. In February of this year Chris without any Sonichu bullshit posted that "trolls ruined Christine's lovelife". Why? Because it was Valentines day, Chris realized that he doesn't have a mate again and no amount of LARP could change that. Then HASBRO and their new MLP - Chris basically told his "fans" to deal with them. Then the story about a woman in her 50's - again, there was no Sonichu, Merge and other gay shit. He knew perfectly well what happened, what the consequences can be and why he shouldn't openly talk about it. There were two times when you could consider him doing something like that, but looking at it now I have more realistic explanations. He once thought about tazing himself to activate the Merge, but since he was doing it on Twitter and never followed with it, I think, it's obvious he was doing it for attention. The second time was when he said that he punched the wall to break into another dimension. I think, it's obvious that he punched it in a fit of tard rage and then used Merge shit to cover his ass. "Chris why did you do this? - Because Merge" and everyone leaves him alone thinking "oh, poor fucker, he is so far gone". All this time he was more self-aware than we thought.

 

[Fapcop]

Maybe true, but why did he shove stuff up his ass then? He definitely thought some kind of stakes were involved.

Chris had the choice between getting his girlfriend and getting his PS3 account back.

Chris chose the girlfriend, and having watched too many kids TV show’s he expected that he’d get both, since he “made the kind choice”.

Trolls didn’t agree though and insisted he could only have one of the two. That’s when the things took a turn up Chris’s anus.

Ultimately, all Clyde really did was coax Chris into going on an adventure which he thought was fun upon retrospect.

Respect for Clyde Cash. May happiness keep blessing his mansion of epic lulz.

That was one of my favorite trolling sagas since it lead to lotsa laughs and a good memory for Chris.

And of course, stuff like this saga were things that Chris NEEDED at the time. Doing stuff by himself, getting out of his routine, prove to himself that he can be more and do more.

Unfortunately, at the time Bob and Barb were fed up by Chris’s nonsense, and tried to protect him by keeping him closely supervised.

In retrospect they gave up way too quickly on him in terms of self reliance and getting a job. Though I can’t really blame a dude in his 70ies who already had seen Chris get arrested by mallcops and suspended from school.

 

[NOT THE BEEEEES!]

I feel like a lot of people in this thread think schizophrenia and sociopathy are the same thing.