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Anybody see the debate between Stardust (c-list breadtuber) and Sean Last? It’s over systemic racism and I’ve never seen someone get so thoroughly destroyed. I started to feel bad for stardust about an hour in. She’s arguing with a formally trained statistician on data interpretation. There’s a reason Destiny refused to debate people like Last anymore, it’s because this is what inevitably happens.

 
What is The Serfs' deal? He's one of the smuggest motherfuckers I've ever seen, yet I've never seen him appear in any context that isn't just massively embarrassing for him. What has he done to earn whatever relevence he has other than get bullied by other politispergs?
 
Lauren wanted the 1v1 debate moderated by destiny for whatever reason
I personally think it makes sense.
1) Destiny would have negative feelings towards both making him quite a neutral moderator, and despite being on the left, he isn't a raging commie
2) Destiny's audience is not a fan of the Serfs (they hate her but it still could make them fairer as well. She also could only grow in Destiny's audience eyes as many probably think she is a fascist that hates brown people.)
3) Destiny has a bigger reach for when Lauren will defend her honour
4) Destiny has himself shown to have more courtial discussions as well as bloodsports, so he has experience in everything.

"They didnt know lauren was a fascist until i told them"
I saw want to know the parent's response. Do they just roll their eyes or do they take it seriously?

BTW CounterPoints has actually had a discussion with Vaush like a year ago if anyone is interested. Link It's a talk about ACAB and policing.
 
Anybody see the debate between Stardust (c-list breadtuber) and Sean Last? It’s over systemic racism and I’ve never seen someone get so thoroughly destroyed. I started to feel bad for stardust about an hour in. She’s arguing with a formally trained statistician on data interpretation. There’s a reason Destiny refused to debate people like Last anymore, it’s because this is what inevitably happens.

didnt they say on that stream destiny is going to be debating him soon?
 
didnt they say on that stream destiny is going to be debating him soon?
Yes, but I'm not sure if Steve will accept, or if it will ever get planned. As far as I can tell there were just a large number of people that want to see them clash. I remember a clip of Steve saying that to debate people like AltHype and Sean you'd need to be an expert yourself (they've spent 1000s of hours with the topic and it shows) so I would be shocked if he ends up actually debating Sean.
 
Yes, but I'm not sure if Steve will accept, or if it will ever get planned. As far as I can tell there were just a large number of people that want to see them clash. I remember a clip of Steve saying that to debate people like AltHype and Sean you'd need to be an expert yourself (they've spent 1000s of hours with the topic and it shows) so I would be shocked if he ends up actually debating Sean.
Destiny won't debate on subjects that experts are familiar with because they'll destroy him and have the experience and authority to back themselves up. He even said the same about jf. He'll debate jf on white nationalism daily, but if it came to debate strictly about biology he'd not bother as that's jfs wheelhouse. Take that as you will.
 
On 9/11, thousands died in agony while being crushed by a collapsed building. But on 1/6, our democracy collapsed. That's worth like a hundred bajillion murders.
for people who claim to critique liberalism they sure do love to buy into its bullshit presuppositions. "democracy" isn't even a real thing, especially not now of all times, and anybody who's actually interesting in philosophically critiquing liberalism should know that.
For instance he mentions that Kaczynski says that leftists deny IQ tests, "which is a bad thing apparently" says whiny. When really the point was that leftists dismiss anything that paints one race as superior to another.
I've never heard a coherent denial of IQ anyway. they always say stuff like "tHe QuEsTiOnS aRe AbOuT hIsToRy AnD sTuFf" which just proves none of them have ever taken an actual IQ test. IQ tests measure abstract thinking, it's not like a classroom quiz where you memorize and regurgitate factoids. but of course these idiots don't know that.
You just invent technology that solves climate change, thereby fixing the problem of "bad" technology. What about the problems caused by the technology that fixes the problems of technology? You just invent more technology to solve those bad parts. You might ask, isn't that the situation we're already in right now? Why, yes it is.
leftoids think science works like Star Trek where, given enough time, some new magical discovery will be made that solves all the problems. this is the root of their utopian fantasy about "fully-automated luxury gay space communism." no action required on their part, they just have to endlessly critique stuff in their shitty youtube videos until Science™ magically does it for them.
 
Anybody see the debate between Stardust (c-list breadtuber) and Sean Last? It’s over systemic racism and I’ve never seen someone get so thoroughly destroyed. I started to feel bad for stardust about an hour in. She’s arguing with a formally trained statistician on data interpretation. There’s a reason Destiny refused to debate people like Last anymore, it’s because this is what inevitably happens.

I remember one time Steve had a "discussion" with Last's friend Alt Hype and made sure to specifically frame it as a "discussion" because he knew from the get-go that AH knew way more about the subject matter than Steve did.
then, Steve pretty much moved on from that subject and would always dodge it in other debates by saying he "doesn't know enough about it."
just recently on some other stream, I heard Destiny explaining "nature vs nurture" to a bunch of shitlib Twitch retards and he more or less gave the exact same explanation that AH or Last would have given: that "nature vs nurture" is an idiotic and nonsensical dichotomy and that your gene expression can only occur within an environment, and that they are not separable from each other. this is pretty much the core of the "race realist" position that Last and AH espouse, and everything else they promote flows from that.

so TL;DR I think Destiny may low-key be a genetic realist without even realizing it.
 
so TL;DR I think Destiny may low-key be a genetic realist without even realizing it.
It's not so much that he is, it's that literally the entire profession of genetics is. Every research biologist knows race is real and genes govern the range of your expressed traits, they just have to weasel around the word by using taxonomic groups like haplogroups to describe racial traits.

Destiny preps by reading cursory and mid-level summaries of disciplines, and if he did that for a genetic debate he'd come away with a "race realist"-sounding perspective because that's the only thing you can come away with from the material. Only the dishonest and ignorant will tell you anything else.
 
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I was looking for DSP on Twitch. I happen to follow Demon Mama and saw they were reviewing Blaire White.
This picture.
The ANGER in Demon Mama's face.
@Flamenco FYI
 
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I just found out about this Haz person, who looks like an improperly assembled golem.
Can anyone explain to me why there's a "criss cross theory" of politics, and it isn't actually the opposite?
Wouldn't Right wing libertarians be more likely to side with right wing authoritarians in a crisis?
Did the Spanish civil war just not happen or have people really just lost the plot?
 
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I just found out about this Haz person, who looks like an improperly assembled golem.
Can anyone explain to me why there's a "criss cross theory" of politics, and it isn't actually the opposite?
Wouldn't Right wing libertarians be more likely to side with right wing authoritarians in a crisis?
Did the Spanish civil war just not happen or have people really just lost the plot?

Idk I think he means the libs supported the Nazis and Jimmy Dore aligns with MLs like Jackson Hinkle.

Something something historical materialism
 
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I just found out about this Haz person, who looks like an improperly assembled golem.
Can anyone explain to me why there's a "criss cross theory" of politics, and it isn't actually the opposite?
Wouldn't Right wing libertarians be more likely to side with right wing authoritarians in a crisis?
Did the Spanish civil war just not happen or have people really just lost the plot?
tbh, it's more than just ML's and lolberts that support such a position. Far-righters, populists, and most principled left-libs probably do too. Basically anyone who is not pro-globohomo (in the center-upper-right corner of the political compass). That doesn't necessarily mean they support the regimes themselves (outside of a few tankies and strasserists), but are very wary of US intervention in subverting them. As they ought to be. A "criss-cross" theory of politics seems pretty unlikely.
 
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I just found out about this Haz person, who looks like an improperly assembled golem.
Can anyone explain to me why there's a "criss cross theory" of politics, and it isn't actually the opposite?
Wouldn't Right wing libertarians be more likely to side with right wing authoritarians in a crisis?
Did the Spanish civil war just not happen or have people really just lost the plot?
The categorizations of ideologies being "left" or "right" were made by people who wanted everything they considered bad to be on the right, thus making them wonderful and smart.
I talked with one of his viewers once, they admitted that according to their own standards the Chinese government should be classified as Fascist, but they said that because the Chinese state media reported state funded researchers found the people supported state policy it wasn't Fascist.

Yes, some of these people will rationalize the difference between Communist and Fascist as "is it popular according to the state".

TL : DR People who use the political compass should be ignored.
 
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