US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

[Xx_Retard Faggot 1488_xX]

I haven't really followed this thread cuz or into the fraud that deep, but:

1) Have results from Arizona get offically published, or are they still probing

2) Are there really both people in here who a) believe that the election will be overturned b) coming in to screech "NO EVIDENCE" for over a year now?

 

[X Prime]

I haven't really followed this thread cuz or into the fraud that deep, but:

1) Have results from Arizona get offically published, or are they still probing

2) Are there really both people in here who a) believe that the election will be overturned b) coming in to screech "NO EVIDENCE" for over a year now?

Haven't seen A recently, yes to B.

 

[Techpriest]

It's going to be hard to prove an "actual malice" standard with all of the evidence that Lindell's just a moron.

No, that just falls into the reckless disregard part of malice.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Election is not going to be over-turned, that's too much of a honker even for this advanced stage of clownworld.

More realistic scenario is that once widespread fraud is proven, Biden and Pelosi step down due to "reasons", few token democrats (Cuomo was the first) get thrown under the bus, and then Kamala ends up as a seat filler with zero power and zero political capital until Trump's republicans seize power.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Election is not going to be over-turned, that's too much of a honker even for this advanced stage of clownworld.

More realistic scenario is that once widespread fraud is proven, Biden and Pelosi step down due to "reasons", few token democrats (Cuomo was the first) get thrown under the bus, and then Kamala ends up as a seat filler with zero power and zero political capital until Trump's republicans seize power.

That's if Kamala isn't thrown under the bus as well. There might be a bigger bunch of Dems who dislike her than we suspected.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

That's if Kamala isn't thrown under the bus as well. There might be a bigger bunch of Dems who dislike her than we suspected.

I figure in this case letting her keep the presidency along with all the scandals associated with it is almost the same as throwing her under a bus.

But who knows, things tend to have a way of turning out even more retarded than predicted lately.

 

[soy_king]

No, that just falls into the reckless disregard part of malice.

That's great. Now eat the hat, faggot.

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

No, that just falls into the reckless disregard part of malice.

EAT HAT HOMO

 

[Ron Jeremy Stan Account]

Election is not going to be over-turned, that's too much of a honker even for this advanced stage of clownworld.

More realistic scenario is that once widespread fraud is proven, Biden and Pelosi step down due to "reasons", few token democrats (Cuomo was the first) get thrown under the bus, and then Kamala ends up as a seat filler with zero power and zero political capital until Trump's republicans seize power.

That's basically what I was saying. My honest Injun opinion is that if real fuckery is caught in 4K, there's not going to be some QBoomer Newsmax fantasy where Trump's Army succeeds in retaking the White House – but instead, the realistic scenario is that Biden gets the Nixon/Watergate treatment, his handlers whisk him off to a nursing home in shame, and Kamala fills in as a proverbial Gerald Ford puppet until 2024.

 

[Random Internet Person]

That's basically what I was saying. My honest Injun opinion is that if real fuckery is caught in 4K, there's not going to be some QBoomer Newsmax fantasy where Trump's Army succeeds in retaking the White House – but instead, the realistic scenario is that Biden gets the Nixon/Watergate treatment, his handlers whisk him off to a nursing home in shame, and Kamala fills in as a proverbial Gerald Ford puppet until 2024.

You say that assuming Kamala as POTUS wasn't the plan all along. For all we know, Biden was just the thing to get Kamala into position for 10 years in office.

 

[Gehenna]

You say that assuming Kamala as POTUS wasn't the plan all along. For all we know, Biden was just the thing to get Kamala into position for 10 years in office.

Because that's not the plan and I really wish people would stop saying it is.

Seriously, stop and think about it. Actually think about it. WHY would they want HARRIS in the office? To be a puppet? They could pick a ton more for that, hell they could raise a fucking nobody up to it and have a -better- puppet.

Right, so not that. Causes she's 'black'? See prior one.

Right, so some PERSONAL reason... no. Kamala has fuck and all strings to pull, she has nowhere near the influence to -begin- to do that.


There is legitimately not a single reason why "Get Kamala in for 10 years!" even approaches a plan to be made.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Some dude needs to eat a hat and the weirdos talking about election overturning being talked about or not never took a civics class. The electoral college votes the President in. Those votes cannot be changed regardless of whether the electoral college worked on imperfect information or not.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Because that's not the plan and I really wish people would stop saying it is.

Seriously, stop and think about it. Actually think about it. WHY would they want HARRIS in the office? To be a puppet? They could pick a ton more for that, hell they could raise a fucking nobody up to it and have a -better- puppet.

Right, so not that. Causes she's 'black'? See prior one.

Right, so some PERSONAL reason... no. Kamala has fuck and all strings to pull, she has nowhere near the influence to -begin- to do that.


There is legitimately not a single reason why "Get Kamala in for 10 years!" even approaches a plan to be made.

You underestimate true believers. If anything, the black woman in office is probably the way they say the left managed to get ultimate victory over Trump. It may not make sense, but it’s probably the only way to explain why Biden hasn’t been tested or 25th’d even though his status and mental state are brought into question a lot.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense, but that’s the world we live in right now where I feel that’s the through line.


Welcome to A and H.

 

[Gehenna]

You underestimate true believers. If anything, the black woman in office is probably the way they say the left managed to get ultimate victory over Trump. It may not make sense, but it’s probably the only way to explain why Biden hasn’t been tested or 25th’d even though his status and mental state are brought into question a lot.

Doesn’t make a lot of sense, but that’s the world we live in right now where I feel that’s the through line.


Welcome to A and H.

There are far better explanations. Like, for example, Kamala is as it was nicely put a charisma black hole. The reason Biden hasn't been removed is -because- it would put Kamala in office and every time she appears in front of anyone the instant reaction is complete hatred. They clearly thought they could brighten her image, and it failed, so they are left with a dementia patient as a president and a woman whose very existence is anathema to adoration as VP.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

Welcome to A and H.

lol at welcoming Jahanne to A&H.

 

[Syaoran Li]

It's rather obvious that even if evidence is ever found, Biden is still in the White House no matter what. Trump's not getting back in unless he somehow pulls a Grover Cleveland in 2024 and I doubt he will.

Yet the DNC and MSM are still going apeshit over the election audits and trying to suppress any discussion of it and deem it "conspiracy theories" and all that. It comes off as if they're afraid something might be found.

Here's a theory. It's blind conjecture, so don't take it as gospel truth.

Spoiler: Autistic rambling

1. Trump is not getting back in, that is a hard fact. But something tells me that's not what the DNC is afraid of.

2. The DNC had no top-down plan to rig the 2020 Election but it's a lot more likely any fraud that could have occurred were a bunch of "stand alone complex" doings at the state and local levels. @Secret Asshole has proposed a similar theory.

3. Going with the second point, this would mean there was fraud on a state or local level and the federal level Dems just rolled with it. If so much as a single shred of hard evidence gets found, that's a huge black mark and media blackouts can only go so far if it gets proven in court.

4. The Democrats are worried about the 2022 midterms. The House is likely a lost cause and the Senate is in a precarious position as it is. HR1 failed in the Senate. The coming second wave of lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions might be a last-ditch attempt to fortify it all over again, but a lot less people are going to be as compliant.

5. If the 2022 midterms go badly enough, there's a possibility the GOP will have a large majority in both chambers of Congress. That means they can get a lot of shit done if they decide to actually do so (lol)

6. With points 4 and 5 taken into account, if it gets proven in a state court that so much as one instance of electoral fraud happened, even if it was a few sheboons or woke neckbeards on the local precinct level that were acting of their own accord with no support from up on high, that gives a GOP-controlled Congress an opening to impeach Biden and Kamala since the national level Dems just rolled with it.

Impeaching Trump twice, the second time being done after he was out of office no less, is enough of a precedent for politicized bullshit impeachments (tbh, the same can be said of the Republicans doing the same to Clinton in the 90's) and there's a good chance that if the audits prove something and it's in the public record, even the RINO types plus maybe Manchin will vote to impeach Biden and Kamala just to ensure their reelection.

Autistic conjecture aside, I honestly don't think these audits will really amount to anything one way or the other.

 

[Random Internet Person]

There are far better explanations. Like, for example, Kamala is as it was nicely put a charisma black hole. The reason Biden hasn't been removed is -because- it would put Kamala in office and every time she appears in front of anyone the instant reaction is complete hatred. They clearly thought they could brighten her image, and it failed, so they are left with a dementia patient as a president and a woman whose very existence is anathema to adoration as VP.

Again, true believers only care about their beltway and media bubbles, along with the progressive intellectual hubs. If it gets even one brownie point, they’ll go all in.

 

[Gehenna]

It's rather obvious that even if evidence is ever found, Biden is still in the White House no matter what. Trump's not getting back in unless he somehow pulls a Grover Cleveland in 2024 and I doubt he will.

Yet the DNC and MSM are still going apeshit over the election audits and trying to suppress any discussion of it and deem it "conspiracy theories" and all that. It comes off as if they're afraid something might be found.

Here's a theory. It's blind conjecture and probably dumb, autistic, and retarded, so don't take it as gospel truth. I'm not saying this is what is going on, mind you. It's just an idea to think about.

Spoiler: Autistic and retarded bullshit

1. Trump is not getting back in, that is a hard fact. But something tells me that's not what the DNC is afraid of.

2. The DNC had no top-down plan to rig the 2020 Election but it's a lot more likely any fraud that could have occurred were a bunch of "stand alone complex" doings at the state and local levels. @Secret Asshole has proposed a similar theory.

3. Going with the second point, this would mean there was fraud on a state or local level and the federal level Dems just rolled with it. If so much as a single shred of hard evidence gets found, that's a huge black mark and media blackouts can only go so far if it gets proven in court.

4. The Democrats are worried about the 2022 midterms. The House is likely a lost cause and the Senate is in a precarious position as it is. HR1 failed in the Senate. The coming second wave of lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions might be a last-ditch attempt to fortify it all over again, but a lot less people are going to be as compliant.

5. If the 2022 midterms go badly enough, there's a possibility the GOP will have a large majority in both chambers of Congress. That means they can get a lot of shit done if they decide to actually do so (lol)

6. With points 4 and 5 taken into account, if it gets proven in a state court that so much as one instance of electoral fraud happened, even if it was a few sheboons or woke neckbeards on the local precinct level that were acting of their own accord with no support from up on high, that gives a GOP-controlled Congress an opening to impeach Biden and Kamala since the national level Dems just rolled with it.

Impeaching Trump twice, the second time being done after he was out of office no less, is enough of a precedent for politicized bullshit impeachments (tbh, the same can be said of the Republicans doing the same to Clinton in the 90's) and there's a good chance that if the audits prove something and it's in the public record, even the RINO types plus maybe Manchin will vote to impeach Biden and Kamala just to ensure their reelection.

Autistic conjecture aside, I honestly don't think these audits will really amount to anything one way or the other.

Trump will not get back in through this, there is no mechanism for this. You are right then to say it's not -that- the DNC fears. It's the backlash. Massive chunks of the Dem base would rip off in revulsion, they wouldn't vote Republican by and large but they'd just straight up not vote. The moderates would go full GOP though. If significant fraud is proven, then it would be apocalyptic for the side that committed it. Even if it is, and I do actually follow the idea it was a bunch of standalone complexes, just individuals who did it, the whole party would suffer massively from the sheer level of anger it would rouse.


Now, a nod to the other side of this. Knowing how apocalyptic it is, that does provide an incentive to -fabricate- or -exaggerate- the degree. So the DNC could also have a worry that such a scenario could be constructed from whole cloth.

 

[Random Internet Person]

It's rather obvious that even if evidence is ever found, Biden is still in the White House no matter what. Trump's not getting back in unless he somehow pulls a Grover Cleveland in 2024 and I doubt he will.

Yet the DNC and MSM are still going apeshit over the election audits and trying to suppress any discussion of it and deem it "conspiracy theories" and all that. It comes off as if they're afraid something might be found.

Here's a theory. It's blind conjecture, so don't take it as gospel truth.

Spoiler: Autistic rambling

1. Trump is not getting back in, that is a hard fact. But something tells me that's not what the DNC is afraid of.

2. The DNC had no top-down plan to rig the 2020 Election but it's a lot more likely any fraud that could have occurred were a bunch of "stand alone complex" doings at the state and local levels. @Secret Asshole has proposed a similar theory.

3. Going with the second point, this would mean there was fraud on a state or local level and the federal level Dems just rolled with it. If so much as a single shred of hard evidence gets found, that's a huge black mark and media blackouts can only go so far if it gets proven in court.

4. The Democrats are worried about the 2022 midterms. The House is likely a lost cause and the Senate is in a precarious position as it is. HR1 failed in the Senate. The coming second wave of lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions might be a last-ditch attempt to fortify it all over again, but a lot less people are going to be as compliant.

5. If the 2022 midterms go badly enough, there's a possibility the GOP will have a large majority in both chambers of Congress. That means they can get a lot of shit done if they decide to actually do so (lol)

6. With points 4 and 5 taken into account, if it gets proven in a state court that so much as one instance of electoral fraud happened, even if it was a few sheboons or woke neckbeards on the local precinct level that were acting of their own accord with no support from up on high, that gives a GOP-controlled Congress an opening to impeach Biden and Kamala since the national level Dems just rolled with it.

Impeaching Trump twice, the second time being done after he was out of office no less, is enough of a precedent for politicized bullshit impeachments (tbh, the same can be said of the Republicans doing the same to Clinton in the 90's) and there's a good chance that if the audits prove something and it's in the public record, even the RINO types plus maybe Manchin will vote to impeach Biden and Kamala just to ensure their reelection.

Autistic conjecture aside, I honestly don't think these audits will really amount to anything one way or the other.

Honestly, it doesn’t seem too out of the question.

 

[spinal gas chamber]

It's rather obvious that even if evidence is ever found, Biden is still in the White House no matter what. Trump's not getting back in unless he somehow pulls a Grover Cleveland in 2024 and I doubt he will.

Yet the DNC and MSM are still going apeshit over the election audits and trying to suppress any discussion of it and deem it "conspiracy theories" and all that. It comes off as if they're afraid something might be found.

Here's a theory. It's blind conjecture, so don't take it as gospel truth.

Spoiler: Autistic rambling

1. Trump is not getting back in, that is a hard fact. But something tells me that's not what the DNC is afraid of.

2. The DNC had no top-down plan to rig the 2020 Election but it's a lot more likely any fraud that could have occurred were a bunch of "stand alone complex" doings at the state and local levels. @Secret Asshole has proposed a similar theory.

3. Going with the second point, this would mean there was fraud on a state or local level and the federal level Dems just rolled with it. If so much as a single shred of hard evidence gets found, that's a huge black mark and media blackouts can only go so far if it gets proven in court.

4. The Democrats are worried about the 2022 midterms. The House is likely a lost cause and the Senate is in a precarious position as it is. HR1 failed in the Senate. The coming second wave of lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions might be a last-ditch attempt to fortify it all over again, but a lot less people are going to be as compliant.

5. If the 2022 midterms go badly enough, there's a possibility the GOP will have a large majority in both chambers of Congress. That means they can get a lot of shit done if they decide to actually do so (lol)

6. With points 4 and 5 taken into account, if it gets proven in a state court that so much as one instance of electoral fraud happened, even if it was a few sheboons or woke neckbeards on the local precinct level that were acting of their own accord with no support from up on high, that gives a GOP-controlled Congress an opening to impeach Biden and Kamala since the national level Dems just rolled with it.

Impeaching Trump twice, the second time being done after he was out of office no less, is enough of a precedent for politicized bullshit impeachments (tbh, the same can be said of the Republicans doing the same to Clinton in the 90's) and there's a good chance that if the audits prove something and it's in the public record, even the RINO types plus maybe Manchin will vote to impeach Biden and Kamala just to ensure their reelection.

Autistic conjecture aside, I honestly don't think these audits will really amount to anything one way or the other.

I agree with you up until point 6. Nobody will bother impeaching, what happens after point 4 or 5 is (rainbow sticker here) people stop trusting the MSM and start thinking (another rainbow sticker here).