Valve introduces Steam Deck

That's the worst case scenario (one that admittedly has precedent). That's the devil with this thing - it could really go either way, since it's still way too early to tell. The positive hands-on previews are encouraging though. We'll just have to wait and see.
I dunno, man. Correlation may not equal causation... but I've seen enough "video games industry" shit over the last 35 years to have a pretty good idea how this is going to go. Maybe I'll be wrong. But I haven't been wrong about much since the turn of the century. And I don't think I'm going to be wrong about this. Steam Deck will be propped up by a media blitz for a time after which we'll stop hearing about it altogether and Valve will quietly transition onto something else while the rest of us wait for them to make actual video games again.

By the way; those of you waiting for Valve to get back to making fun and exciting video games? Please give up. Do something else. Valve are not even a hollow shell of what they used to be both in terms of staffing and in terms of ambition. Major changes need to happen at Valve for them to produce great games once more.

Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm telling you that the Communists are responsible for my inability to perform in bed.
 
By the way; those of you waiting for Valve to get back to making fun and exciting video games? Please give up. Do something else. Valve are not even a hollow shell of what they used to be both in terms of staffing and in terms of ambition. Major changes need to happen at Valve for them to produce great games once more.

Artifact and Underlords are living proof that the Valve of yesteryear that made great games, Is No More at this point, and don't expect that to change, unless something extremely drastic happens at the company.
 
Valve, with no effort whatsoever, makes profits most companies would ritualistically murder children for. They have no reason to make any games so long as Steam exists. This Steam Deck system is simply a ploy to sell more steam store access to kids whose parents won't spring for a gaming PC. This system will have two customer demographics; man-child consoomers like MovieBob and 12 year-old boys using their parents credit cards for GTAV shark cards and Warzone supply drops.
 
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Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm telling you that the Communists are responsible for my inability to perform in bed.
Perhaps you shouldn’t have given them your bodily fluids :smug:

Either way, I’m looking at random clone like PC consoles that cost thousands of dollars on indiegogo and AliExpress, yet the Valve Steam Deck at 512MB costs about $520+.

I might have to re-check that price so don’t take my word for it.
 
Perhaps you shouldn’t have given them your bodily fluids :smug:

Either way, I’m looking at random clone like PC consoles that cost thousands of dollars on indiegogo and AliExpress, yet the Valve Steam Deck at 512MB costs about $520+.

I might have to re-check that price so don’t take my word for it.
Valve is a much larger entity than the others you listed. It therefore seems reasonable that they could mass produce products in a greater quantity and lower cost than most other competitors.
 
Uhhh... the Steam Deck's price point alone is a disaster. It's way too expensive and without low-interest, zero down financing options it will price huge swaths of potential customers out of the market. The normal Switch is 100 dollars less (and even the BS OLED thing is 50 less) than the base Steam Deck model and it has the support of a developer making new games behind it. The high-end model is a complete joke. Not to mention that those games are being made for the Switch. I promise you that there will be conflicts with the Steam Deck's software when it comes to certain popular games and ultimately as a "tiny PC" the Steam Deck will go obsolete in a way that a normal console/handheld will not.

Because a game being on the Steam Deck is bonus at this point in time and not a guarantee. That install base is going to have to be huge to get developers to start dumbing down their games to run on the Steam Deck's aging hardware less than a year after its release. It could happen, but I doubt it. We're not going to see Steam Deck variants of new software because Valve are not going to sell enough of them to justify such a move. The hardware inside the Steam Deck is good. But it is not great. And the base for such a device are more interested than Nintendo fans in the best graphics and top-tier performance.

Time will tell how it goes. But I believe that I am going to be proven right. Buy a Steam Deck if you want, but buy a Steam Deck understanding that you're purchasing a very limited piece of technology being sold by a company with a tenuous grasp on what its place is when compared to other devices and companies on the market.
 
Uhhh... the Steam Deck's price point alone is a disaster. It's way too expensive and without low-interest, zero down financing options it will price huge swaths of potential customers out of the market. The normal Switch is 100 dollars less (and even the BS OLED thing is 50 less) than the base Steam Deck model and it has the support of a developer making new games behind it. The high-end model is a complete joke. Not to mention that those games are being made for the Switch. I promise you that there will be conflicts with the Steam Deck's software when it comes to certain popular games and ultimately as a "tiny PC" the Steam Deck will go obsolete in a way that a normal console/handheld will not.

Because a game being on the Steam Deck is bonus at this point in time and not a guarantee. That install base is going to have to be huge to get developers to start dumbing down their games to run on the Steam Deck's aging hardware less than a year after its release. It could happen, but I doubt it. We're not going to see Steam Deck variants of new software because Valve are not going to sell enough of them to justify such a move. The hardware inside the Steam Deck is good. But it is not great. And the base for such a device are more interested than Nintendo fans in the best graphics and top-tier performance.

Time will tell how it goes. But I believe that I am going to be proven right. Buy a Steam Deck if you want, but buy a Steam Deck understanding that you're purchasing a very limited piece of technology being sold by a company with a tenuous grasp on what its place is when compared to other devices and companies on the market.
so the steam deck is a tiny pc, which apparently no one develops for, the handful of games that will be released in the future suddenly will be locked down like console games (because no one uses different resolutions and inputs on pc), which means all the call of duties and cyberpunks 2077 people would wanna play on that form factor won't work at 800p with reduced details you wouldn't notice on a screen that size anyway...?
least I can always get a switch for all those high fidelity 4k 3d games steam deck will never be able to run.

Artifact and Underlords are living proof that the Valve of yesteryear that made great games, Is No More at this point, and don't expect that to change, unless something extremely drastic happens at the company.
"valve" only ever made half-life, the rest were repackaged mods brought in-house or concepts they improved. it's like calling blizzard creative. with the shit state of the industry I honestly don't know what people expect given there's nothing to built on and the rest mostly being self-published already.

This system will have two customer demographics; man-child consoomers like MovieBob and 12 year-old boys using their parents credit cards for GTAV shark cards and Warzone supply drops.
the ones with a lot of disposable money spending billions each year? thank god valve didn't target enthusiasts or some other niche market...

Valve is a much larger entity than the others you listed. It therefore seems reasonable that they could mass produce products in a greater quantity and lower cost than most other competitors.
apple is even bigger, why does a monitor stand cost 1000 bucks then?
 
so the steam deck is a tiny pc, which apparently no one develops for, the handful of games that will be released in the future suddenly will be locked down like console games (because no one uses different resolutions and inputs on pc), which means all the call of duties and cyberpunks 2077 people would wanna play on that form factor won't work at 800p with reduced details you wouldn't notice on a screen that size anyway...?
least I can always get a switch for all those high fidelity 4k 3d games steam deck will never be able to run.
No, the problem is obsolescence of the hardware. It is the same reason why gaming laptops are a niche market filled with overpriced machines that explode because there are very few adequate cooling solutions. Steam Deck is not just a tiny PC, Steam Deck is an inferior tiny PC.

The Steam Deck is going to go obsolete and it will happen sooner rather than later. Some people might even laugh at the specs it is currently stated to ship with. Software will leave this device behind. And that is not a problem with desktops, consoles, and even some of the aforementioned ridiculous gaming laptops. It will be a problem with Steam Deck. It is being marketed as the high-end PC experience in a handheld. And you cannot upgrade upgrade the Steam Deck as far as I can tell, which is yet another major benefit of owning and maintaining a PC. That experience will lag behind rapidly and diminish one of the two primary selling points (the other being portability).

And to that end, I have serious questions as to the efficacy of the device's portability. Battery life will leave much to be desired, people will complain about the screen size and resolution, the device is going to be a nightmare to keep cool and it is fragile and heavy. There are issues abound with this that cut into perceived benefits.
 
No, the problem is obsolescence of the hardware. It is the same reason why gaming laptops are a niche market filled with overpriced machines that explode because there are very few adequate cooling solutions. Steam Deck is not just a tiny PC, Steam Deck is an inferior tiny PC.

The Steam Deck is going to go obsolete and it will happen sooner rather than later. Some people might even laugh at the specs it is currently stated to ship with. Software will leave this device behind. And that is not a problem with desktops, consoles, and even some of the aforementioned ridiculous gaming laptops. It will be a problem with Steam Deck. It is being marketed as the high-end PC experience in a handheld. And you cannot upgrade upgrade the Steam Deck as far as I can tell, which is yet another major benefit of owning and maintaining a PC. That experience will lag behind rapidly and diminish one of the two primary selling points (the other being portability).

And to that end, I have serious questions as to the efficacy of the device's portability. Battery life will leave much to be desired, people will complain about the screen size and resolution, the device is going to be a nightmare to keep cool and it is fragile and heavy. There are issues abound with this that cut into perceived benefits.
except people buy consoles, and they buy millions of them. the switch is literally a failed nvidia mobile chip. if people would care about upgrades or performance no one would buy any of those, yet here we are. people still play on hardware that was outdated when it was released 8 years ago. games for at least a few years more will be released with that outdated hardware in mind given it's install base and lack of next gen adoption so far.
in terms of numbers, 69% steam users still run 1080p. another roughly 10% wxga (768p if you wanna go with that). 4k is a bit above 2%; from the resolution alone I highly doubt it will be obsolete anytime soon. if you look at the rest of the hardware survey which I'm too lazy to dig through a lot of those are on par to the resolution specs, with quite a few laptops in the mix (not sure if you can even still buy wxga monitors). which you can't upgrade either, let alone have high performance.

>It is being marketed as the high-end PC experience in a handheld.
by whom? the same people that claim the next switch will be 4k? and again, which games that would require a "high-end" pc would people play on a steam deck in the first place? how many heavy 3d games with high hardware requirements at 800p are there even? AAA games are hardly the majority of games released on pc, and focusing on those is outright consoletard mentality. which means the less hardware intensive the game, the longer your battery will run, never mind "portable" doesn't mean you'll never be around any outlets.
this also assumes everyone on pc is literally a mustard, which simply isn't the case, see the numbers above. and unless there is a magical technological breakthrough anytime soon the big jumps have ended. fuck if anyone wants to shitpost he would simply need to run crysis from 2007 on a steam deck which holds up to this day. this reads again like some consoletard perspective where a SSD is something mindblowing and unheard off.
 
Valve, with no effort whatsoever, makes profits most companies would ritualistically murder children for. They have no reason to make any games so long as Steam exists. This Steam Deck system is simply a ploy to sell more steam store access to kids whose parents won't spring for a gaming PC. This system will have two customer demographics; man-child consoomers like MovieBob and 12 year-old boys using their parents credit cards for GTAV shark cards and Warzone supply drops.
Makes sense as only manchildren and children play games on handhelds.
 
Makes sense as only manchildren and children play games on handhelds.
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the ones with a lot of disposable money spending billions each year? thank god valve didn't target enthusiasts or some other niche market...
They already have the majority of PC players and video game enthusiasts on their platform.
apple is even bigger, why does a monitor stand cost 1000 bucks then?
Because Apple has a dedicated customer base of retards who will pay massive mark ups on simple tech because it has a fucking Apple logo on it.
 
I don't really think this is going to be successful. The last time Valve tried something like this it was kind of a disaster. Also the $650 option is a total fucking grift. The only real difference between that and the $530 option is more storage and a fancy screen (which can't be all that expensive). Pull up Newegg right now. You can get a 1 TB NVME SSD for $100. Paying $100 for 250 GB of extra storage is insane. Also, will users be able to upgrade their SSDs? If I was going to get one then the first thing I would do is replace the standard SSD with a 1 TB one.

Valve confirmed for transphobes.
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Based, but that doesn't exactly speak much to how powerful the machine is. Factorio is insanely well optimized. I was able to get it to run almost perfectly on a laptop from 2010.
 
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