Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

[Mr Snek]

just fuck fat chicks

its works for me bros

I mean until the fat chick tells you you're too ugly for her on the first date.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Fat people can be conceited, too. Exhibit A, Shawty Sagittarius. Just gross all around.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Most of what I have seen from incels are their shitty personalities holding them back. I know some ugly, autistic men who are happily married. They just have humility, self reflection, and patience for themselves and others. It also helped that they learned how to portray appropriate emotions and worked on learning things that interest other people.

If Rich Evans can get laid, you can too.

Rich Evans was a fine young man, before he got lazy and got fat. Ever seen those "Gorrila" era videos?

 

[Linkin Park]

More to the point: other women are the best people to get advice about women from!

LMAO you're going to create more incels saying this shit. Most women aren't brutally honest or self-aware enough to be giving sound advice, let alone, to their male counterparts.

After reading some posts, I'd say the best thing an incel can do, if they still want to date, is learn to turn their brains off from time to time. Overthinking in conversations and interactions with women usually lead to failure (a lot of women are boring as shit and you're a spaz), and reminding yourself that you were probably QB2/QB3 on her depth chart will make shit worse. The love that you're looking for doesn't exist at what you currently are, so it's best to acknowledge that, improve yourself, and move on. Think of it like a sports contract. Aaron Rodgers can demand whatever, because he's a proven, dependable, HOF talent that wins games. Ya'll are like Gardner Minshew or Jacoby Brissett.

 

[Angry Canadian]

Just came here to suggest incels watch the UK TV show "undateables" featuring downies, autists, and seriously beauty challenged individuals finding love.
A lot of the potatoes found lasting love with their fellow potatoes. If they can do it. You can do it. Don't give up. I believe in you.

Look at this guy and ask yourself "is he really better than me?" and the answer is "probably not"
All you guys have what it takes to make it, you just have to believe in yourselves and set realistic expectations.

*edit*
A fun game to play if you decide to binge watch the series is "Retard or just British"; sometimes it's hard to tell.

 

[Dread First]

LMAO you're going to create more incels saying this shit. Most women aren't brutally honest or self-aware enough to be giving sound advice, let alone, to their male counterparts.

Speaking from personal experience, both men and women are liable to give some fucking shoddy advice. Not every woman is a fucking man destroyer and not every man is a wizened sage. It's a sliding scale of common sense.

The problem with incels is that they're either incapable or completely unwilling to deal with any sort of sliding scale in their lives. Everything has to operate under a strict binary. You're either a virgin or a chad. You're either a whore or you're an untouched pure virgin yadda yadda.

 

[Mr Snek]

Just came here to suggest incels watch the UK TV show "undateables" featuring downies, autists, and seriously beauty challenged individuals finding love.
A lot of the potatoes found lasting love with their fellow potatoes. If they can do it. You can do it. Don't give up. I believe in you.

Look at this guy and ask yourself "is he really better than me?" and the answer is "probably not"
All you guys have what it takes to make it, you just have to believe in yourselves and set realistic expectations.

"Just trust this reality TV show bro the paid actors in it totally get to live happily ever after." This is barely a step above weebs who take life advice from harem animes.

 

[Angry Canadian]

"Just trust this reality TV show bro the paid actors in it totally get to live happily ever after." This is barely a step above weebs who take life advice from harem animes.

Okay, suppose that's true, I don't think it is, because the few people (I think only one) who was actually an extra on something was stated to have been an extra on The Inbetweeners. You can't "act" like you have down syndrome. If downies are doing good with their lives, whether it's fake TV or not; the fact that literal retards are making the best of their life is still proof that you can too. I still believe in you, even if you don't believe in yourself. It's going to be okay. You're going to make it, but you won't if you keep being angry all the time.

 

[Mr Snek]

Okay, suppose that's true, I don't think it is, because the few people (I think only one) who was actually an extra on something was stated to have been an extra on The Inbetweeners. You can't "act" like you have down syndrome. If downies are doing good with their lives, whether it's fake TV or not; the fact that literal retards are making the best of their life is still proof that you can too. I still believe in you, even if you don't believe in yourself. It's going to be okay. You're going to make it, but you won't if you keep being angry all the time.

I guess I misspoke, I doubt they're actually paid actors but I can guarantee you the company that made the show was real nice to them until filming was over, then they kicked them out on their ass and cut anything that would make the show and the people in it look bad. Reality TV exists purely to distract the average person from the realities of life and treating it as anything more than a cleaned up, sanitized and highly edited version of reality is a mistake.

Also, telling incels that everything will be ok and that they'll make it if they believe in themselves or whatever is the worst thing you can do. Incels need to be told that their lives mean nothing and they'll probably spend a good chunk of it miserable, same as everyone else and if they can't handle that, they should remove themselves from the gene pool.

 

[Linkin Park]

Speaking from personal experience, both men and women are liable to give some fucking shoddy advice. Not every woman is a fucking man destroyer and not every man is a wizened sage. It's a sliding scale of common sense.

The problem with incels is that they're either incapable or completely unwilling to deal with any sort of sliding scale in their lives. Everything has to operate under a strict binary. You're either a virgin or a chad. You're either a whore or you're an untouched pure virgin yadda yadda.

I will agree to bold, but the difference is that men typically try to give what works/worked for them versus women stating one thing, then dating/fucking the opposite. Wouldn't say it's common sense, because a lot of people struggle with that shit.

Incels spend too much time dwelling and thinking in terms of absolutes, but some of their points about Chads/betas/etc. aren't wrong. Some of their paranoia is justified, too. Current dating and "love" is just a numbers game for men past like high school, and it's meant to have them on the losing end, because women are an easy party to profit from. These guys need to humble themselves and get into a position where they can call the shots, and then, they won't seem as delusional.

"Just trust this reality TV show bro the paid actors in it totally get to live happily ever after." This is barely a step above weebs who take life advice from harem animes.

Thought the same. In fact, it felt more like they were mocking them by inferring they'd have to start banging down syndrome chicks lol about the same level as telling them to bang obese women

 

[Overcast]

Also, telling incels that everything will be ok and that they'll make it if they believe in themselves or whatever is the worst thing you can do. Incels need to be told that their lives mean nothing and they'll probably spend a good chunk of it miserable, same as everyone else and if they can't handle that, they should remove themselves from the gene pool.

Sounds to me that both of these things are basically the same thing, but one is much more discouraging than the other.

Of course, I suppose that depends on what you mean by "believe in yourself". Does that involve taking action regardless if you succeed or not? Or does that literally mean "Just wish hard enough and it will come true."?

Either way, I think there needs to be a middle ground. People shouldn't be told that they're basically God's gift to women or whatever, but telling them that their lives mean nothing doesn't help either.

Everybody is important to somebody. At least initially. It's being able to hold on to those relationships and work on bettering yourself that's the key.

 

[BadGoy1488]

Look dawg, I'm just gonna keep it 100 with you, I'm a relatively big guy, not fucking HUGE, but a big guy. I play Vidya more than I should, am a huge shut in, and prefer the company of my library to people....and I got to diddle with a ballerina most recently (as well as my best friends super cute older sister that I had a crush on since I moved here). What I'm saying is, like a lot of incels I am way too shallow for my looks and income, but it sure as shit ain't stopped me.

I'm just gonna be fuckin honest with the incel crowd here, put yourself out there, you fuckin gotta. Also, you will be rejected, multiple times, it comes with the territory, that is a big reason I think separates me from an incel. I could have very easily fallen into the same negative feedback loop they have, but I... rejected the notion. If 15 girls tell you no thanks, and the 16th let's you touch their vagina....which experience will you remember?

Another thing, I don't mean to quote a banger of a movie, but it's apt "stop putting the pussy on a pedestal". Women (including Stacys) are just people, talk to them as such, I'm sure there is SOMETHING you have in common with almost everyone on the planet. Find out what it is...keep the spaghetti in your pocket while talking about it, then expand from there. I'm a fuckin national socialist and I had a thicc SJW on my lap last weekend, if I can hold my tongue when needed, and use it when needed you can too.

Easy one here, bro just get like 2 nice looking "out on the town outfits". When you look good, you feel good.

Any weebs here? Barnes and nobles manga section has gotten me like half a dozen phone numbers. A drink will make a girl think about you for 3 minutes, a book will all week.

I just woke up and saw this on front page, so forgive how shitty this is written. Believe in yourself and give some of these tips a shot poonless kiwis and go get you some, it's Friday. Even you can sit across from the table from a pretty girl as she asks "is that enough blood on his sword?" (actual quote from an ex) while she helps you paint your Warhammer 40K army.

 

[Vince McMahon]

Also, telling incels that everything will be ok and that they'll make it if they believe in themselves or whatever is the worst thing you can do. Incels need to be told that their lives mean nothing and they'll probably spend a good chunk of it miserable, same as everyone else and if they can't handle that, they should remove themselves from the gene pool.

Saying that "everything will be okay" doesn't always work but saying that everything in your life is going to be absolutely miserable will do nothing but encourage them to either radicalize further or neck themselves.

Funny thing that I've noticed over the years: all this Darwinian tough talk usually comes from people who have zero experience with hardship and/or depression.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

fellas just fuck your friends if you cant get women, as long as you say no homo it aint gay

 

[Unabashed Hermaphrodite]

Okay, suppose that's true, I don't think it is, because the few people (I think only one) who was actually an extra on something was stated to have been an extra on The Inbetweeners. You can't "act" like you have down syndrome. If downies are doing good with their lives, whether it's fake TV or not; the fact that literal retards are making the best of their life is still proof that you can too. I still believe in you, even if you don't believe in yourself. It's going to be okay. You're going to make it, but you won't if you keep being angry all the time.

You act pretty retarded all the time tho.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/michae...er-zerstoeren-lothloran-northlandpride.97669/

 

[Mr Snek]

Saying that "everything will be okay" doesn't always work but saying that everything in your life is going to be absolutely miserable will do nothing but encourage them to either radicalize further or neck themselves.

Funny thing that I've noticed over the years: all this Darwinian tough talk usually comes from people who have zero experience with hardship and/or depression.

So being honest about the realities of life causes people to become suicidal or radicalized? Shocking.

 

[Vince McMahon]

So being honest about the realities of life causes people to become suicidal or radicalized? Shocking.

There's honesty and there's edginess/"tough love" bullshit.

 

[The Final Troondown]

incels can't even admit what their problem is
it's not that women don't like them and their insatiable sex drive can't handle it
it's that they can't imagine being happy with themselves without a substitute parent figure

hell i recently had a breakup with a girl i loved a lot but I'm not falling into that pit because i don't fall apart without constant reassurance from an outside figure (and this is in no way restricted to incels, this is the exact same driver behind hardcore fundies, sjws, the lot)
am i sad about it and wish it could have been different? sure
but it hasn't destroyed my concept of myself because i actually like myself
I'm still going the gym, still making myself nice food, using my extra spare time to do cool stuff with my friends. hell I think I'm an interesting goodlooking guy and that doesn't depend on having the world at large tell me so. it's not like that for a lot of people these days
the vast majority of people these days seem totally unable to internally justify themselves and so they join all these retarded movements and creeds

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Saying that "everything will be okay" doesn't always work but saying that everything in your life is going to be absolutely miserable will do nothing but encourage them to either radicalize further or neck themselves.

Funny thing that I've noticed over the years: all this Darwinian tough talk usually comes from people who have zero experience with hardship and/or depression.

Maybe it's because I've never been an incel but they seem super fixated on the past and missing out, they need to focus on their future and stop caring what people, particularly people on social media sites think.

And I don't mean 'You've got to go get rich and successful to get women', they can literally can just go out and do all the things they think they missed out on, the number one thing that I've found that attracts women is being out with friends having a good time.

 

[TheShedCollector]

Gunman Jake Davison filmed amid killing spree in Plymouth

In CCTV footage captured on a quiet Plymouth street, gunman Jake Davison casually crosses the road, shotgun in hand, moments after murdering a three-year-old girl and three others.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Incel guns down and kills five people before turning the gun on himself. Any man too stupid to get sex these days should be put into prison. They are too dangerous to be out among the public.