Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

Pointless Sperg said:
The stupid thing is that we'd already blown our wad on pushing back the Taliban. Maintaining our gains was far, far cheaper than winning them. We built the dam to hold back the medieval savages and then we got upset about the cost of maintaining the dam. Now the dam has burst and it will take another 9/11 to wake us up again. 20 years is a long time, but if we'd just held out another 20 years a whole generation would have been raised to adulthood knowing only a world where you could listen to music and you didn't sell your 9 year old daughter into sex slavery to make a good business deal for your goat farm.
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just two twenty more weeks years guise pls!
 
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borsabil said:
Open your eyes. The reason the US left Afghanistan is pretty fucking obvious. The Taliban was more than capable of taking most of the country, foreign occupation or no, that's an indisputable fact. The US forces were concentrated in a handful of major cities and strategic areas, even with air support the TB would have handed them a massive defeat. Why suffer the terrible optics of the mighty American military having their asses handed to them by a few thousand inbred goat herds? Discretion being the better part of valor Biden made the right call.
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You're kidding, right? In almost every single engagement against US/NATO forces, the Taliban lose. Best case for them they run away. There's only been a VERY few instances where the Taliban have successfully taken a position from the US, and that was only in cases where it was like 5 US guys stranded on a mountaintop surrounded by 200 insurgents.

The Taliban knew this, their goal wasn't to win the military battle in Afghanistan, it was to win the PR battle in the US. "Americans are too soft, they'll give up once we make them have enough bad takes on MSNBC to make them feel bad while eating their burgers and cry on their TikTok". This was Japan's strategy in WWII, and they were a far stronger opponent. They failed because we weren't crybabies. I guess now we are.

There is absolutely no way the Taliban could defeat the US. Their only goal was to get us to wuss out. That is how they won.

To their credit, they are very good at recruiting and motivating their troops. This is because they use the ISIS playbook of paying in pussy. When the Taliban roll into town they round up all the unmarried girls and hand them out as brides to their troops. (The more retarded troops used for suicide attacks get fed the line about getting virgins in the afterlife). The ANA sucks because they do not get paid in pussy, and are often not paid in anything at all, their corrupt commanders embezzle the money, so they have no skin in the game.

The worst position to be in is to be a guy with a young nubile wife when the Taliban take over your town. Magically the next day you are hanging from a rope for being a "collaborator" and they graciously redistribute the newly-minted widow to one of their good bois.
 
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So when does the second 9/11 come and why is it Biden's fault
 
The MSM is still digesting the fact they took Kandahar. But that was so yesterday. They are past that and in to Qalat city. Only 1 more stop until Next stop, Kabul.
I think all these intelligence "experts" who said it would take 90 days for Kabul to fall will once again be proven fools. The Agfhan army don't give a shit about the US's interests, why should they? They where only there for the gibs and as they learn the grift is over they are walking away.

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It looks like the meme about ME fighters and toyota's will be coming to an end.
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Pics/Videos: Taliban captures hundreds of US military vehicles, drones to keep taking over Afghanistan

On Friday, the Taliban seized control of Firoz Koh, the provincial capital of Ghor, Afghanistan, marking at least 17 Afghan provincial capitals the
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lol...at the rate they're making progress, this might as well be their theme song, except they don't bring the jubilee nor a flag that makes you free:

 
Pointless Sperg said:
You're kidding, right? In almost every single engagement against US/NATO forces, the Taliban lose. Best case for them they run away. There's only been a VERY few instances where the Taliban have successfully taken a position from the US, and that was only in cases where it was like 5 US guys stranded on a mountaintop surrounded by 200 insurgents.

The Taliban knew this, their goal wasn't to win the military battle in Afghanistan, it was to win the PR battle in the US. "Americans are too soft, they'll give up once we make them have enough bad takes on MSNBC to make them feel bad while eating their burgers and cry on their TikTok". This was Japan's strategy in WWII, and they were a far stronger opponent. They failed because we weren't crybabies. I guess now we are.
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What an asinine comparison. We stuck it out vs. Japan because, unlike the Taliban, they were in the process of conquering the entirety of Asia, threatening multiple allied states like Australia and China, and because they declared war on us, not the other way around. Pearl Harbor was just a useful rallying cry for a whole lot of other reasons to stick through the war and see it to completion.
Afghanistan, meanwhile, has been nothing but a fruitless nation building exercise to line the pockets of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin for the past 10 years at least. The Taliban weren't even the ones ultimately hiding Bin Laden, we found him in fucking Pakistan. To say nothing that absolutely zero of the 9/11 attackers were Afghani, they were mostly Saudis with a smattering of members from the gulf states or the Levant. We went in with a murky casus beli at best, and public opinion wasn't behind the war after maybe the first 18 months.

Ending this farcical charade and leaving the fuckers to go back to their preferred hobby of sodomizing sheep and little boys isn't some sad indictment of the American public's spirit, it's a sad indictment of our corrupt, self-serving, and directionless leadership.
 
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CANADA YES
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TBH, interpreters & their families should at least get a ticket out, since they did contribute towards the militaries & have a huge target on their back for their collaboration.

That being said, I do expect the Afghan government to essentially drain out into the West as their personnel flee to friendly nations, and the middle class will be paying big bucks to get out as well. The rich already likely have their ticket out, and the only reason they might be staying would be to dispose of their assets or that they think they can manuever into a position in any new government.

One day you might even meet Ashraf Ghani walking his dog down a leafy Fairfax street...
 
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attractive_pneumonia said:
The US did quite well with the Vietnamese that we brought with us, you're not getting the bottom dwellers from Afghani society, you're getting the highly motivated types. With the exception of the LGBT ones, you'll get a lot of productivity from these people.
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From the way they describe it their just importing the leftist activists and journalists aswell as the lgbt from afganistan though.
 
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attractive_pneumonia said:
The US did quite well with the Vietnamese that we brought with us, you're not getting the bottom dwellers from Afghani society, you're getting the highly motivated types. With the exception of the LGBT ones, you'll get a lot of productivity from these people.
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Bec said:
From the way they describe it their just importing the leftist activists and journalists aswell as the lgbt from afganistan though.
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The way things go, yes, you'll get some of useless socjus ones who'll immediately graduate into activism + a bunch of mostly harmless gays, but you'll probably be able to get most of the remaining graduates from the University of Kabul & some of the foreign-educated Afghans who worked in government.

If so, this would be the final reaping of whatever meager human capital Afghanistan has. Meanwhile, the hordes of undereducated young men will be headed for Europe soon:

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Afghanistan’s crisis will soon be Europe’s too

The inevitable new wave of refugees may have no choice but to head to the Continent.
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