Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Ido]

I haven't played Super Mystery Dungeon

A wise decision, honestly. You get in the game and get treated as a child, in other games sure they treated your team like noobs, but tbf, you were. Super mystery just sits you down at desks, to teach you the basics in pokemon school. You run around with small group of students and fuck around learning the basics for what felt far too long to me, before you can finally set out and make it to an explorers guild. It's been such a long time, it probably wasn't that bad, but I remember when I'd try to replay it I'd always quit before getting to the guild because it was a slog.

To make matters worse, instead of recruiting like normal there's a connection tree. You have to do missions and they'd unlock a connection you could use in rescues and branch off. There was one of each pokemon and they were the ones from previous games, but there was no wild recruiting or anything which really killed it for me.

 

[Wingnut]

With home console spin-offs, I wish they'd make a new Battle Revolution though, that game was sick, same with a Colosseum/Gale of Darkness type game.

I forgot to count the Genius Sonority games as full blown spin-offs, and they easily blow Mystery Dungeon out of the water for me in terms of my favorites. They always felt like an extension of Pokemon Stadium series to me, so I never really considered them as much a spin-off so much as extensions to their contemporary mainline games.

 

[Don't @ Me]

I forgot to count the Genius Sonority games as full blown spin-offs, and they easily blow Mystery Dungeon out of the water for me in terms of my favorites. They always felt like an extension of Pokemon Stadium series to me, so I never really considered them as much a spin-off so much as extensions to their contemporary mainline games.

I actually didn't recall that Sonority made both those games, the Colosseum series and Battle Revolution, and that apparently they also made Trozei. Guess I'm a fan of their work. They also made that new Cafe Mix game, which I guess is sort of mobile Trozei, since it's a puzzle game? Has that game lasted more than a year?

I know Battle Revolution's just a battle sim, so you could just as easily play Showdown over it, but it was such a big deal when it came out that basically my whole family was fighting over who'd get to play it first, for some reason. I also really liked the ability to customize your trainer with weird clothes and accessories, that's my favorite feature of any Pokemon game.

 

[Valstrax]

I actually didn't recall that Sonority made both those games, the Colosseum series and Battle Revolution, and that apparently they also made Trozei. Guess I'm a fan of their work. They also made that new Cafe Mix game, which I guess is sort of mobile Trozei, since it's a puzzle game? Has that game lasted more than a year?

I know Battle Revolution's just a battle sim, so you could just as easily play Showdown over it, but it was such a big deal when it came out that basically my whole family was fighting over who'd get to play it first, for some reason. I also really liked the ability to customize your trainer with weird clothes and accessories, that's my favorite feature of any Pokemon game.

I used to have Battle Revolution and customizing my trainer was all I ever did.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I actually didn't recall that Sonority made both those games, the Colosseum series and Battle Revolution, and that apparently they also made Trozei. Guess I'm a fan of their work. They also made that new Cafe Mix game, which I guess is sort of mobile Trozei, since it's a puzzle game? Has that game lasted more than a year?

I know Battle Revolution's just a battle sim, so you could just as easily play Showdown over it, but it was such a big deal when it came out that basically my whole family was fighting over who'd get to play it first, for some reason. I also really liked the ability to customize your trainer with weird clothes and accessories, that's my favorite feature of any Pokemon game.

Genius Sonority did not make the Stadium games or Mystery Dungeon. The Stadiums were by HAL Laboratory and the Mystery Dungeons are by Spike Chunsoft.

 

[Valstrax]

Genius Sonority did not make the Stadium games or Mystery Dungeon. The Stadiums were by HAL Laboratory and the Mystery Dungeons are by Spike Chunsoft.

Fun Fact! Spike Chunsoft also made Danganronpa! The more you know..

 

[Disc]

Fun Fact! Spike Chunsoft also made Danganronpa! The more you know..

Now that's a fucking hell of a crossover waiting to happen.

 

[Dunsparce]

Now that's a fucking hell of a crossover waiting to happen.

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon itself is a crossover... Of Pokemon and Chunsoft's Mysterious Dungeon series. The first game ever released was a SNES title that was a spinoff of Dragon Quest IV staring Torneko Taloon, but over the years has been combined with other properties as well as some completely original titles(Shiren the Wanderer), The Pokemon crossover games however are the ones with the most exposure in the west.

In a similar vein, Pokemon Conquest was a crossover of Pokemon of the mostly Japan-only Nobunaga's Ambitions series(It was simply called Pokemon x Nobunaga's Ambitions in Japan), and the more obvious one is Pokken Tournament being Pokemon and Tekken. And while Puzzle League for the N64 was a west-only asset flip of Panel de Pon 64, The GBC title(Pokemon Puzzle League Challenge) was actually released in Japan, and simply called Pokemon Panel de Pon over there(Also since it was intentionally made to be a Pokemon game from the start it was able to use many more Pokemon-like mechanics in it and was based off of the games, specifically Gold and Silver, rather than the anime).

 

[Don't @ Me]

Genius Sonority did not make the Stadium games or Mystery Dungeon. The Stadiums were by HAL Laboratory and the Mystery Dungeons are by Spike Chunsoft.

I know that, I was talking about Colosseum, XD Gale of Darkness, and Battle Revolution. All three of those were made by Genius Sonority.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Having a blast with Emerald currently!

First *second Try!

Now that I've actually hunted for the bass myself, I'll never understand why this is in the "Pokémon Pantheon of Herculean Tasks."

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

Having a blast with Emerald currently!

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First *second Try!

Now that I've actually hunted for the bass myself, I'll never understand why this is in the "Pokémon Pantheon of Herculean Tasks."

People are impatient. It’s a tiny bit more annoying to find Feebas in Gen 4, but that’s all it is. Tedious.
(Also for the record Emerald is my favorite non-ROM hack Pokémon game.)

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Was thinking about this the other day, but the plot of Black/White 1 could be seen as a metaphor for gun control. What was Team Plasma's plan? Make everyone give up their Pokemon (who in their own right are basically living weapons) under the guise of making peace when really it was to horde all the mons for themselves and leave the populace powerless to stop them afterwards.

And go figure, the region is based on the US.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Was thinking about this the other day, but the plot of Black/White 1 could be seen as a metaphor for gun control. What was Team Plasma's plan? Make everyone give up their Pokemon (who in their own right are basically living weapons) under the guise of making peace when really it was to horde all the mons for themselves and leave the populace powerless to stop them afterwards.

And go figure, the region is based on the US.

If Plasma were seemingly commies in BW, then shit, they looked full-on nazbol in BW2. That aside...

(Also for the record Emerald is my favorite non-ROM hack Pokémon game.)

In the same case, Platinum is mine, and I get the same exploratory feelings from those games as I am now feeling playing through Hoenn. In fact, the water is non-issue; so much of the region is opened up once you get Surf (as is the case with any Pokémon game), but with RSE in particular... Let's just say I can understand the villainous teams' autistic goals. There is a lot the game offers on land and sea.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

If Plasma were seemingly commies in BW, then shit, they looked full-on nazbol in BW2. That aside...


In the same case, Platinum is mine, and I get the same exploratory feelings from those games as I am now feeling playing through Hoenn. In fact, the water is non-issue; so much of the region is opened up once you get Surf (as is the case with any Pokémon game), but with RSE in particular... Let's just say I can understand the villainous teams autistic goals. There is a lot the game offers on land and sea.

I get why people think the sea routes are bland, but I love Dive, at least in concept. (Shame they never used Dive in Alola.) And who doesn’t love the Regi sidequest/Sealed Chamber?

 

[Don't @ Me]

In the same case, Platinum is mine, and I get the same exploratory feelings from those games as I am now feeling playing through Hoenn. In fact, the water is non-issue; so much of the region is opened up once you get Surf (as is the case with any Pokémon game), but with RSE in particular... Let's just say I can understand the villainous teams' autistic goals. There is a lot the game offers on land and sea.

I'm torn between Platinum and B/W. I think I said this before, but Sinnoh has a great atmosphere, a cool pantheon, memorable trainers. The only thing I can think of is that I'd want is if there was more of the Distortion World, maybe you could explore Dialga's dimension of time, or Palkia's dimension of space, where movement is similarly confusing. Or that all the god damn event legendaries were possible to get. New Moon Island's cool as hell, running along the flower road for Shaymin is great, and the Azure Flute is chilling. Also the Underground system was really great, having a cooperative or competitive experience with my brothers as a kid was fun.

Unova doesn't exactly have all that, but for the most part it's the first time a region really felt alive. At least in Castelia City, there are finally enough buildings and NPCs running about that I could be convinced the population isn't just 5 or 6 people. It still has some cool Pokemon though, I like the creativity behind Garbodor and Vanillish, along with others. And they gave some helpful evolutions to Pokemon that kind of needed it, though I wish they focused less on Gen 1, like every freaking game does. I never figured out how the weird link system or whatever worked in that game. When I first got it, I thought the game had genuine coop, or at least you could run around in someone else's world, but I don't think it was anything like that.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Palkia's dimension of space, where movement is similarly confusing.

And that reminds me of the Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia DLC, featuring Palkia.

tl;dr: Every area transition abnormally leads you to a different location, which you ultimately find out is the work of an enraged Palkia.

If that was incorporated into a main game dungeon or hell, go all out with an event, that would be awesome for sure!

 

[CrippleThreat]

For a update on the Emerald playthrough, took down Wallace at the start of the week.

The Kirlia is/was totally intentional, and got its shit kicked in by Wailord. Hell, the entire Pokémon League. However...

Like the topic after this, the Master Contests were a pain in the ass, but the Museum sidequest was taken care of too! Shoutout to @Suburban Bastard.​

Currently, I've blitzed through all but one of the Battle Frontier's facilities:

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Got both of those useless shields for the Secret Base from Scott. 100 battles of Battle Tower hell, with the ninth circle being those 3 battles against Anabel.

However, to treat things like the anime, I'm finishing this RNG shitfest with the Battle Pyramid.

Posting an honest question here.

In both versions of the Battle Frontier, which facilities annoyed you the most?

The Battle Palace and Battle Pike. The latter is just the future Battle Arcade on crack with exploration features, whereas the godforsaken former... is a good way to vent, so to speak. And I must say, the Factory, Pike, and Pyramid have some fantastic music, which you'll be hearing a lot of.

And to conclude, holy shit, these Battle Facility AI know. I've been rocking a Manectric-Metagross-Salamence core for most of my blitz, and God, I just tell when the Earthquakes, Fire Blasts/Overheats, and literally any Ice-type attack is coming.

 

[Valstrax]

For a update on the Emerald playthrough, took down Wallace at the start of the week.

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The Kirlia is/was totally intentional, and got its shit kicked in by Wailord. Hell, the entire Pokémon League.

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Like the topic after this, the Master Contests were a pain in the ass, but the Museum sidequest was taken care of too! Shoutout to @Suburban Bastard.​

Currently, I've blitzed through all but one of the Battle Frontier's facilities:

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Got both of those useless shields for the Secret Base from Scott. 100 battles of hell, the with the ninth being those 3 battles against Anabel.
However, to treat things like the anime, I'm finishing this RNG shitfest with the Battle Pyramid.


The Battle Palace and Battle Pike. The latter is just the future Battle Arcade on crack with exploration features, whereas the godforsaken former... is a good way to vent, so to speak. And I must say, the Factory, Pike, and Pyramid have some fantastic music, which you'll be hearing a lot of.

And to conclude, holy shit, these Battle Facility AI know. I've been rocking a Manectric-Metagross-Salamence core for most of my blitz, and God, I just tell when the Earthquakes, Fire Blasts/Overheats, and literally any Ice-type attack is coming.

Attachments are busted, homie.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

And to conclude, holy shit, these Battle Facility AI know. I've been rocking a Manectric-Metagross-Salamence core for most of my blitz, and God, I just tell when the Earthquakes, Fire Blasts/Overheats, and literally any Ice-type attack is coming.

Why Manectric over Swampert?

 

[CrippleThreat]

Why Manectric over Swampert?

I figured fast mon, why not? It got the job done, but I could definitely see the better usage of Swamp on the team. Hell, my Starmie seemed better when I swapped it out during by Battle Tower climb.