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Yeah Pakistan is not our sunshine and rainbows friend either, but they have nukes so we have to at least respect them a bit. Which is why Obama didn't fucking tell them when he gave the order to go in to get OBL even though clearly someone in ISI was protecting him. (Something that Biden was against, btw. Obama was more based than Biden, go figure).What an asinine comparison. We stuck it out vs. Japan because, unlike the Taliban, they were in the process of conquering the entirety of Asia, threatening multiple allied states like Australia and China, and because they declared war on us, not the other way around. Pearl Harbor was just a useful rallying cry for a whole lot of other reasons to stick through the war and see it to completion.
Afghanistan, meanwhile, has been nothing but a fruitless nation building exercise to line the pockets of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin for the past 10 years at least. The Taliban weren't even the ones ultimately hiding Bin Laden, we found him in fucking Pakistan. To say nothing that absolutely zero of the 9/11 attackers were Afghani, they were mostly Saudis with a smattering of members from the gulf states or the Levant. We went in with a murky casus beli at best, and public opinion wasn't behind the war after maybe the first 18 months.
Ending this farcical charade and leaving the fuckers to go back to their preferred hobby of sodomizing sheep and little boys isn't some sad indictment of the American public's spirit, it's a sad indictment of our corrupt, self-serving, and directionless leadership.
Yeah the 9/11 perps were mostly Saudi. The crazies recruit from everywhere and there are a lot in SA. There were Americans fighting for ISIS, not to mention the crazy ass teenage girls who'd go there to go get knocked up by their hajji masters. That's not the point.
What the Taliban are is an organization that creates a safe space hugbox for the medieval childfuckers that want to rule the world. It's one thing where they have to live in a country where they have to operate in the shadows, it's another where they can just operate in the open because they have the protection of a nation state. They make the Iranians look like progressive pronoun-respecting twitter zoomers. OBL had to HIDE in Pakistan even though he surely had some help from some portions of government, because it still had to be secret. He was busy worrying about his own shit. The embassy bombings and 9/11 happened because he had safe spaces like Sudan and Afghanistan where he could just walk to the bank when he needed money to fund his network.
An enemy on the run and hiding is a far less dangerous enemy. When we kicked the Taliban out we put them and everyone they protected on the run and hiding as well. The Iraq war was a stupid mistake because even though Saddam was an evil shit at least he wasn't a hajji, but once we pulled out we learned that the vacuum made space for the people who can't be reasoned with. We apparently didn't learn that lesson well enough because pulling out of Afghanistan is causing the exact same thing to happen. These are people on a literal mission from God. You can't negotiate with them. They will not compromise. Once they create their safe space they will use it the same way they did before. They will not sit quietly in their own borders when there's a whole world to convert.
If there were a Handmaid's Tale Christian theocracy at the extreme level of the Taliban conquering Afghanistan right now, the twitter mob would have us sending 100,000 troops there tomorrow.
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