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That's because there was supposed to be a third season that never happened.
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Don’t forget the merging and how it feels good. And how two of the pilots thought the glasses duo inquired about merging and confused it about asking advice about sex.
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Look Aquarion is based around giving a feral child a giant robot.
It's at least better than what happened with Eureka 7.
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ALRIGHT super drunk and high opinion of Eva final movie, rate me autism or dumb for post but this is raw opinion:
Context: first saw eva 12 years old. I'm 32 now and had """""grown up"""".
First hour, hour and half: fun shit.
I need to sleep now, too many drinks, but I'll expand my opinion further tomorrow.
Context: first saw eva 12 years old. I'm 32 now and had """""grown up"""".
First hour, hour and half: fun shit.
Last hour for sure: tearing up like a bitch while holding my husband who was stoic. I releated so much to Gendo in that scene explaining his life before Yui... but I actually like the ending.
I need to sleep now, too many drinks, but I'll expand my opinion further tomorrow.
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Brilliant on every level. Some people called it an Eva clone (which is what I thought going into watching it), but it feels like it's parodying stuff like that. Lots of sex and violence and fanservice, only someone without a soul could hate it.
The sequel sucks though even if it has a few episodes that capture the spirit of the first Aquarion. I think there was another Aquarion anime but I've heard that it has nothing to do with the other two.
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I liked it a lot too. already posted my full autism dump in the Eva thread proper, but suffice to say I think it provided a strong sense of resolution and closure. It was character driven to an impressive degree, and I think it was just about the best way they could have closed the series out.
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All this talk and hype is persuading me to watch the series from the beginning. I watched parts of the first movie but never finished it.
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Finished watching 3.0+1.0. I loved it, and was quite surprised with how effectively the Instrumentality was at conveying the characters' feelings, especially with some repeated scenes like in the original.
It was wild, it was definitely weird, and it was satisfying. Not sure whether I liked this version or EoE more, but this certainly packs more EVA combat than the latter in.
It was wild, it was definitely weird, and it was satisfying. Not sure whether I liked this version or EoE more, but this certainly packs more EVA combat than the latter in.
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Is that the fourth final film? Because what the fuck with this numbering.
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I might as well just paste my (rather autistic) thoughts on the film that I wrote on several other sites.
(Note: A lot of this writing is me being writing a similar review to a certain former internet reviewer's turned lolcow thoughts on a film I found very much like it, so my thoughts are gonna line up quite a bit. If you find lines from my post to be almost the same as his, that's why.)
Well, I just finished watching 3.0+1.0.
To be honest, I fully entered into it expecting to just be blown away, with a satisfied feeling at the end. Maybe that's not the right word, given the franchise's history, but at the very least, I expected to be left in awe at what Anno and crew delivered in the end. Even if 3.33 snuffed out a lot of my enthusiasm for the franchise, I was still more than willing to give this film the benefit of the doubt. If Anno could pull off one last epic twist, which given the lengthy development and possible rewrites, was also expected, than all else could be forgiven.
Heck, I quite enjoyed the works Anno made during the long 8 and 1/2 wait between films. He excels in the sort of pseudo-philosophical crap that I eat up like candy, and given his renewed creative juices following Shin Godzilla, I sat down with the high hopes that he'd, at the very least, justify all the suffering and character-bashing of Redo, and pull out all the stops.
On the whole, watching 3.0+1.0 was easy. Heck, I'll even say I had a much better time watching it than I did with 3.33, as it was nowhere near as mean-spirited or full of contempt as that one was. Writing about my feelings on it though? That's an entirely different kettle of fish. I say this because I really, really want to say that it was the ending the franchise and all of us deserved, and one that I liked as much as the original series and 2.22 (still my favorite out of the entire saga). Yet sitting down thinking it over after having seen it, I really can't.
For that matter, I think I came to a glum realization while watching the credits roll. We had spent the past 8 and 1/2 years of our lives debating over what it all meant, what exactly Anno had up his sleeve, how each of the characters connected to both each other and their original selves, when really, this is how it was always gonna end. A whole bunch of slow character-building moments at the beginning, a very long, visually dense action-packed climax, and a reset button ending with the fates of some characters left up in the air. There was no real big twist or shock planned at all. Show's over folks. Go on home.
To be fair, getting a completely closed off ending with all the questions answered isn't to be expected from Eva. After all, one of the major draws of the franchise is its open-endedness that encourages the viewer to come up with their own interpretations. But I was just hoping for something more. They could've gone whatever crazy route they wanted with this saga, and instead what we ended up with was, surprisingly, rather predictable, despite all the unsubtle religious and spiritual terms and ideas thrown about willy-nilly.
There are other problems with it sure (some really lackluster CG near the end, certain characters not getting enough development or screentime, resolutions to some relationships feeling rushed or unearned, symbolism that's only there to look cool, areas which felt like padding), but the thing is, the original series has similar problems, yet it worked. Heck, the previous Rebuild films, even 3.33 had that, and they still worked too. I think this film went wrong because it whole-heartedly leaned into the mystical and mind-screw territory, without really having enough build-up to really justify it. The films worked best when it was centered on Shinji's connection to the others, and how he and those close to him grew from them, and I just wanted to see more of that, not a whole bunch of abstract and visually dense imagery that really means bugger all when you start to analyze it.
And it's not just me simply wanting my favored ship or the like to come canon or have closure. A lot of things get that in this film. But it all just feels buried under the weight of everything that is jockeying for screentime. Lots of things explode, colors are assaulting the senses, nightmarish imagery is shown, and yet it all feels hollow. And it all culminates in an ending that is essentially a reset button, alongside making it clear that Anno clearly views it as less of a story and more of a way to express his own personal feelings at us.
To be fair, the original was that as well. But it was much more effective in it for a reason. The franchise's main source for its themes, beyond the mere window dressing of the religious symbolism and Freudian subtext, was that of the Hedgehog's Dilemma. How we all crave the affection and connection we share with others, and yet they also cause us to feel pain. Said pain may lead to us isolating from others to stay safe, but it is not at all what we as humans need to truly live. The world is filled with hardships and painful times, but it is all worth enduring it and living, because through them warmth and love can still reach you. Running away from all that just because you don't want to get hurt deprives you of what is beautiful in the world, and said beauty makes this harsh life worth it all in the end. More to the point, it is through it that we can learn to love both others and ourselves, and we can endure thanks to that.
And here in 3.0+1.0..................it all ends with an Impact that basically causes a reset button on the heroes' lives. Some have said that all the philosophical navel-gazing of the original show was little more than pretentious nonsense, and to an extent that may be true. But there's a reason as to why it became such a cultural touchstone. It was the very rare series that managed to tap even the dimmest basement-dweller and make them think about their lives, if only for a moment. For this film to not do it as well just leaves me with a hollow feeling.
I often said that I had this feeling watching the previews, and upon seeing the film, I hate to admit it, but I really do think that this is Eva's equivalent to The Matrix Revolutions. It's a film that, while having high ambitions and loads of themes and spectacle, ends up feeling anti-climactic and not as impactful as I hoped.
That said, I would still tell people to watch the movie. After all, my thoughts are just the thoughts of one person. Who knows, you may end up coming to the complete opposite of my final thoughts. Just for me though, I expected to be blown away, and yet by the time the credits rolled, I was left feeling nothing.
.....................Dang it, this saga could've been so fricken cool. I can't believe it.
Well, I just finished watching 3.0+1.0.
To be honest, I fully entered into it expecting to just be blown away, with a satisfied feeling at the end. Maybe that's not the right word, given the franchise's history, but at the very least, I expected to be left in awe at what Anno and crew delivered in the end. Even if 3.33 snuffed out a lot of my enthusiasm for the franchise, I was still more than willing to give this film the benefit of the doubt. If Anno could pull off one last epic twist, which given the lengthy development and possible rewrites, was also expected, than all else could be forgiven.
Heck, I quite enjoyed the works Anno made during the long 8 and 1/2 wait between films. He excels in the sort of pseudo-philosophical crap that I eat up like candy, and given his renewed creative juices following Shin Godzilla, I sat down with the high hopes that he'd, at the very least, justify all the suffering and character-bashing of Redo, and pull out all the stops.
On the whole, watching 3.0+1.0 was easy. Heck, I'll even say I had a much better time watching it than I did with 3.33, as it was nowhere near as mean-spirited or full of contempt as that one was. Writing about my feelings on it though? That's an entirely different kettle of fish. I say this because I really, really want to say that it was the ending the franchise and all of us deserved, and one that I liked as much as the original series and 2.22 (still my favorite out of the entire saga). Yet sitting down thinking it over after having seen it, I really can't.
For that matter, I think I came to a glum realization while watching the credits roll. We had spent the past 8 and 1/2 years of our lives debating over what it all meant, what exactly Anno had up his sleeve, how each of the characters connected to both each other and their original selves, when really, this is how it was always gonna end. A whole bunch of slow character-building moments at the beginning, a very long, visually dense action-packed climax, and a reset button ending with the fates of some characters left up in the air. There was no real big twist or shock planned at all. Show's over folks. Go on home.
To be fair, getting a completely closed off ending with all the questions answered isn't to be expected from Eva. After all, one of the major draws of the franchise is its open-endedness that encourages the viewer to come up with their own interpretations. But I was just hoping for something more. They could've gone whatever crazy route they wanted with this saga, and instead what we ended up with was, surprisingly, rather predictable, despite all the unsubtle religious and spiritual terms and ideas thrown about willy-nilly.
There are other problems with it sure (some really lackluster CG near the end, certain characters not getting enough development or screentime, resolutions to some relationships feeling rushed or unearned, symbolism that's only there to look cool, areas which felt like padding), but the thing is, the original series has similar problems, yet it worked. Heck, the previous Rebuild films, even 3.33 had that, and they still worked too. I think this film went wrong because it whole-heartedly leaned into the mystical and mind-screw territory, without really having enough build-up to really justify it. The films worked best when it was centered on Shinji's connection to the others, and how he and those close to him grew from them, and I just wanted to see more of that, not a whole bunch of abstract and visually dense imagery that really means bugger all when you start to analyze it.
And it's not just me simply wanting my favored ship or the like to come canon or have closure. A lot of things get that in this film. But it all just feels buried under the weight of everything that is jockeying for screentime. Lots of things explode, colors are assaulting the senses, nightmarish imagery is shown, and yet it all feels hollow. And it all culminates in an ending that is essentially a reset button, alongside making it clear that Anno clearly views it as less of a story and more of a way to express his own personal feelings at us.
To be fair, the original was that as well. But it was much more effective in it for a reason. The franchise's main source for its themes, beyond the mere window dressing of the religious symbolism and Freudian subtext, was that of the Hedgehog's Dilemma. How we all crave the affection and connection we share with others, and yet they also cause us to feel pain. Said pain may lead to us isolating from others to stay safe, but it is not at all what we as humans need to truly live. The world is filled with hardships and painful times, but it is all worth enduring it and living, because through them warmth and love can still reach you. Running away from all that just because you don't want to get hurt deprives you of what is beautiful in the world, and said beauty makes this harsh life worth it all in the end. More to the point, it is through it that we can learn to love both others and ourselves, and we can endure thanks to that.
And here in 3.0+1.0..................it all ends with an Impact that basically causes a reset button on the heroes' lives. Some have said that all the philosophical navel-gazing of the original show was little more than pretentious nonsense, and to an extent that may be true. But there's a reason as to why it became such a cultural touchstone. It was the very rare series that managed to tap even the dimmest basement-dweller and make them think about their lives, if only for a moment. For this film to not do it as well just leaves me with a hollow feeling.
I often said that I had this feeling watching the previews, and upon seeing the film, I hate to admit it, but I really do think that this is Eva's equivalent to The Matrix Revolutions. It's a film that, while having high ambitions and loads of themes and spectacle, ends up feeling anti-climactic and not as impactful as I hoped.
That said, I would still tell people to watch the movie. After all, my thoughts are just the thoughts of one person. Who knows, you may end up coming to the complete opposite of my final thoughts. Just for me though, I expected to be blown away, and yet by the time the credits rolled, I was left feeling nothing.
.....................Dang it, this saga could've been so fricken cool. I can't believe it.
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Ok, I'll sperg about 8.0/2.0 2.0*2.0 3.0 + 1.0 a little too.
I think, it was one big fucking trolling from Anno, who is tired of the series. If original and EoE had the message "don't be afraid of the world and don't give up on life", the rebuild is basically "Motherfuckers, I told you to stop being shut-ins and what did you do? Used my fucking cartoon to be shut-ins! Here, look, throw away this escapistic bullshit, find a job, find a woman and leave me alone". That's why by the end it goes full postmodern, backgrounds turn into decorations and characters talk to each other, well, like characters, they know they aren't real people.
And you know what? I am perfectly fine with that. I am not that guy, who watched original series, EoE and first Rebuild over a decade ago. If I did this today, I would've laughed my ass off and this is exactly what I've been doing while watching. I mean, Gendo analyzing himself to get dropped off a train? Or that tokusatsu style fight in the end, where buildings get pushed around like cardboard boxes? The entirety of Mary's character who is basically Anno's wife?
He was obviously fucking with evafags and this is what it was all this time, but I really can't blame him. Sadly, this isn't going to change a thing. However, I was happy to see some development for the rest of the characters, ironically enough, all of them were from supporting cast.
I think, it was one big fucking trolling from Anno, who is tired of the series. If original and EoE had the message "don't be afraid of the world and don't give up on life", the rebuild is basically "Motherfuckers, I told you to stop being shut-ins and what did you do? Used my fucking cartoon to be shut-ins! Here, look, throw away this escapistic bullshit, find a job, find a woman and leave me alone". That's why by the end it goes full postmodern, backgrounds turn into decorations and characters talk to each other, well, like characters, they know they aren't real people.
And you know what? I am perfectly fine with that. I am not that guy, who watched original series, EoE and first Rebuild over a decade ago. If I did this today, I would've laughed my ass off and this is exactly what I've been doing while watching. I mean, Gendo analyzing himself to get dropped off a train? Or that tokusatsu style fight in the end, where buildings get pushed around like cardboard boxes? The entirety of Mary's character who is basically Anno's wife?
He was obviously fucking with evafags and this is what it was all this time, but I really can't blame him. Sadly, this isn't going to change a thing. However, I was happy to see some development for the rest of the characters, ironically enough, all of them were from supporting cast.
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3.0 + 1.0 was too good of an ending for the Rebuild movies as a whole imo. Let me tell you though, it feels weird being an Eva fan, a Gintama fan, and a Berserk fan right now. Three of some of my favorite series are going to/have ended in the last month or so. It feels like the end of an era or something like that.
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I've never actually watched the series myself, something I'll probably fix at some point, but I love the soundtrack. I've heard that the first season is the only one really worth it, especially Evol is heavily shitposted about.
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Yeah, I think the name was tentatively "Evangelion: Final" originally. "3.0+1.0" though? Confusing, really.
I don't think he was really messing with death-threatening fans this time, and just wanted to give the series an honest conclusion. For him, that was with a revisitation to EoE, and I feel like it was the right move. If he was trolling we would have had a definitive loop back to the beginning, but it definitely felt closed off with the exception of one character (Kaworu).
For me, the "blown-away" part came from Evangelion 2.22 and 3.33, when Shinji first diverged from the original by rescuing Rei, and the absolute clusterfuck of a beast that was the entirety of 3.33. I knew that as a finale with no future ahead of it, it wasn't going to be as crazy in order to close off the important ends.
However, I was surprised to find that it has more in common with EoE than 3.33 had with, well, anything else. It diverged in the ending and the journey the characters took to get to it, but there were a lot of deliberate events that were set up in the same fashion. When 3.33 knocked everything off the table and told you that all bets were off, it's a little unsatisfactory that you can't look at both versions and say they're totally incompatible outcomes. Apparently it was the right choice though since I guess a number of people didn't like 3.33.
To me it didn't feel like much of a reset button though. Only Kaworu gave any indication of that, but the rest of it felt like individual characters got their resolutions. Shinji sent everyone on their way after some honest conversations where he spoke his mind, and we're left with a conclusion that shows Shinji had found a sense of happiness and closure to move forward with his life beyond Evangelion. It felt like a conscious decision made by Shinji rather than something that looked entirely manipulative and artificial like Episode 26. Even though a small part of why I like Evangelion is seeing how much worse everything can get for the characters, it felt like an adequate send-off by Anno to show he was finished with the franchise. I mean you could do something to set all the gears in motion again, but this felt pretty final in its delivery at least to me.
As for the technical side of things? Yeah, there's some sloppy CGI in places, especially between two EVA units towards the end. Maybe they can update it one day, but if they had simply used animation it would have come out much better. It's sad since for Shinji it's a pivotal moment to make such a decision, and it's marred by looking like an alternative timeline in a PSP game.
Ultimately, I'm happy with what we got in Thrice Upon a Time. It's not shocking like EoE was at its time and did not give me the outcome I had hoped - and that's unfortunate - but it was still a good ending which touched on what was most important.
However, I was surprised to find that it has more in common with EoE than 3.33 had with, well, anything else. It diverged in the ending and the journey the characters took to get to it, but there were a lot of deliberate events that were set up in the same fashion. When 3.33 knocked everything off the table and told you that all bets were off, it's a little unsatisfactory that you can't look at both versions and say they're totally incompatible outcomes. Apparently it was the right choice though since I guess a number of people didn't like 3.33.
To me it didn't feel like much of a reset button though. Only Kaworu gave any indication of that, but the rest of it felt like individual characters got their resolutions. Shinji sent everyone on their way after some honest conversations where he spoke his mind, and we're left with a conclusion that shows Shinji had found a sense of happiness and closure to move forward with his life beyond Evangelion. It felt like a conscious decision made by Shinji rather than something that looked entirely manipulative and artificial like Episode 26. Even though a small part of why I like Evangelion is seeing how much worse everything can get for the characters, it felt like an adequate send-off by Anno to show he was finished with the franchise. I mean you could do something to set all the gears in motion again, but this felt pretty final in its delivery at least to me.
As for the technical side of things? Yeah, there's some sloppy CGI in places, especially between two EVA units towards the end. Maybe they can update it one day, but if they had simply used animation it would have come out much better. It's sad since for Shinji it's a pivotal moment to make such a decision, and it's marred by looking like an alternative timeline in a PSP game.
Ultimately, I'm happy with what we got in Thrice Upon a Time. It's not shocking like EoE was at its time and did not give me the outcome I had hoped - and that's unfortunate - but it was still a good ending which touched on what was most important.
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EoE was "closed off" too, but it didn't stop them. The entirety of Rebuild is one big "fuck you" to every hardcore fan and in the last part it's obvious. You want symbolism? Here, take a fucking load of those. You want lore? Take Third Strike and Not really Third Strike and Fourth Strike and Another Strike with a load of mumbo-jumbo. You want psychoanalysis? Have Gendo basically telling you why he decided to fuck-up entire planet if it wasn't obvious before, then he is off the train. You wan't waifus? Shinji lets them go and grow up, which is basically you should do - grow up. Hell, he even clowned at the prospect of the movie having epic battle scene at the end, Gendo outright tells this and fucking asks Shinji to talk him out of it all. And before that tells him to get into the fucking robot. It's clear as day.
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Why'd you have to remind me...
Apparently Part 9 wasn't announced in the preview for the final chapter so JoJo may be completely ending too.
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There's old interviews with Araki saying part 9 will be the finale so have hope.
There's sometimes breaks between parts and the dude is ancient despite his looks so he probably needs a vacation, plus plan out the next storyline.
I didn't keep up much with JoJolion. I read it when I lived in Japan but it's hard for me to keep up with monthly releases since easy to forget, but JoJolion seemed like at times it was being made up as it went with weird momentum in the way the story was told. From what the husband has told me I'm surprised Araki managed to make the plot work out (always wondered how he was going to make sense of the wall eyes since he incorporated the real earthquake into the plot a month after it had happened).