GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

Ouch. Notebookcheck tested a laptop with the 3050 and it is significantly slower than the mobile 1660 Ti.

 
Just got done fixing and upgrading my moms shitty dual-core PC. A fucking dual-core in 2021. Got it an SSD and another 4GB of RAM. Those two things help it out but it's still slow as hell.

Working on my brothers laptop atm. The CPU is a quad core and a generation older and his laptop is overall faster. Threw in my old SSHD from my laptop and 4GB of DDR3 RAM is coming in the mail for it tomorrow.

As for my PC, I've been getting it Windows 11 ready. Somebody needs to tell ASrock that the security features on their motherboards needs to be enabled by default.
 
As for my PC, I've been getting it Windows 11 ready.
This is how to get a computer ready for Windows 11.

1629138044455.png
 
More details about Zen 4 Epyc leaked because Gigabyte got hacked:


Also, Zen 3 Threadripper:

 
Last edited:
Ouch. Notebookcheck tested a laptop with the 3050 and it is significantly slower than the mobile 1660 Ti.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Yikes...an-the-GTX-1660-Ti-and-RTX-2060.554340.0.html
wouldn't the addition of DLSS make that small performance hitch worth it?
you could use amd's FSR on the 1660ti but from my brief experimentation it was significantly blurrier with far less of a performance boost compared to DLSS or even Gen5 TAA with a decreased resolution scale.

btw, the same source did RTX tests on that card and they don't look great at all; you wouldn't buy one of these if you had the money or cared about actual real time raytraced features.
 
What do you use? Positive or Negative?, I'm partial to negative it keeps my AMD™ processor nice and 😎
The combination of the 2. Pulling air in... pushing air out.... The purpose is to get the hot air out as fast as possible.

I don't like Linus Tech Tips but sometimes he does things right. He did a 1 year air flow experiment on 3 computers.


I have a Corsair 400r and a 500r case. I have several new ones in storage because this style of cases are THE BEST in cooling your rig. I consider the newer cases FUCKING GARBAGE.

I love performance and that is why I keep buying the 400r and 500r series of case.

On my rig I only have 3, Artic 140mm fans. running at 1150rpm 2 on the side and one in the rear. They are pulling air in and pumping it out.

ALSO. I have a customized Hyper T2 with 2-92mm fans working. It is doing double duty as it is pulling cold air from TOP of the case into the case.

My PSU is also doing Double Duty as it pulls air out of the case.

These are old skool tricks, but it too me 3 hours to fine tune my rig so I can get the best air flow possible.

And my rig runs so damned cool even with some very hot components Such as the RX 5700/5700XT and the MSI X570 A-Pro motherboard.

If you know what you are doing and take the time you can fine tune your rig and your components for maximum efficiency.

Because ALL NEW components made after 2016 I consider suspect and even worse starting at 2019. Because every computer company out there are cutting anyway possible in quality in order to make maximum profit.

The means that the components are now of less quality than 5 years ago. Break down factor is increased forcing people to upgrade when they do not need too.

ADDED: To prove my point I just ran Cinebench x2 on my Comp. NOTE: pros post their room temps before doing their tests, when someone does not, they are jerking around with the data.

Room temp is 25c
Normal running temps on 8-2021
normal temps 8202021.jpg

Starting cpu temp was 44c This is very good for the starting of the program.
Ending Cpu is 77c. Well below the 95c ceiling AMD has placed on this chip. Increase of heat is 43c running it x2, which is excellent.

The MSI X570 A-Pro is known to be a very hot mother board but I knew my stuff so I picked one up for under $125 new and at the time it was the cheapest X570 MB around.

If you know what you are doing you can cool off those hot components by proper air flow management, not only saving you money on the short end, it will save you money on the long end by making them last.



cinebench testx2a.jpg
NOTE: You can see both performances listed. Both well within the norms.

Now remember there is no fancy gimmick being done here. No fancy water blocks or AIO's. NO CRAZY ASS HEAT ISSUES WITH ALL COMPONENTS TESTED. All components are well cooled normally and during the tests.

Just 3 140mm fans, and the knowledge of proper airflow management keeping your rig cool.

Of course I'm going to get my detractors and they can say that those numbers are not that good. But my rig is using only 3 fans. My room temp is 25c and the your normal CPU temp only 10c higher than room temps?... Well that is excellent cooling being done.

And to be honest I don't give one shit about them. I made a successful side business out of this for 32+ years so fuck them. I made money bitch and lots of it by being honest on my approach.

As I am a firm believer of taking care of your customer base instead of fucking them in the ass like what is happening now with most corporations today. That's why I posted the picts. I don't have to but when you need to prove a point you do so. I'm quite happy with the performance and how cool this rig is

AND considering that I run my rig 16+ hours a day with only 3 fans... the rig is running damned cool.

I built this rig and pitted it against what Linus's build in 2019 for around 900 Bucks. Not only did I beat him in price I beat him in quality of components and expandability as well. The same build to be made today will cost you 1200 to 1400 bucks depending on where you get your components.

In ending. Knowledge is power. The reason for posting this is for those people to understand that MAOR fans does not Equal efficient cooling. At times it might degrade your ability as the fans are fighting each other for air..

You do not have to have the most expensive case nor the most expensive components to make your rig run smoothly.

What you need is the knowledge and understanding of what you have and make the best of it.
 
Turns out I'm not a complete retard with my speculation, Intel recently announced their Thread Director for Alder Lake(12000 series) that sorts processes/threads between the little and big cores, that's a pretty big thing. Windows 11 is supposed to be geared towards it and where that leaves Linux on consumer hardware is to be seen.

Some leaked benchmarks shows that Intel's 16 core(8big/8little) CPU goes toe to toe with the AMD 5950X. Huge if true and if I remember it correctly...
 
AMD are releasing a Radeon 490. Yes, no kidding - GPU from what... 6 years ago? It's a dual GPU card geared towards miners. AMD have apparently had stock of the GPUs themselves lying around for ages but couldn't make this card earlier in response to the mining boom because of shortages of basic components like capacitors.


Is mining still forcing GPU prices high or did the China crackdown end that? If it's still an issue this might help as apparently it's 3070 levels of hashrate.

The components and chip shortages are crazy. This should have been released six months ago. I spoke this morning with someone who recently bought a tilt-bed truck and has been getting offers to buy it off him from people left, right and centre because chip shortages mean vehicle manufacturers literally cannot produce more right now. And older tractors and combine harvesters are now like gold dust because the newer ones can't work without microchips which can now not be obtained.
 
Western Digital are being bastards again. The WD Blue SN550 was a really impressive NVMe for its price, 1TB for under €90 with 2400/1750 read/write speeds, but now they're sneakily replacing the SLC cache on it.

WD Blue SN550 SSD Performance Reportedly Cut In Half When SLC Runs Out​

Western Digital's Blue SN550 M.2 NVMe SSD, which is hailed as one of the best SSDs on the market, may be in danger of losing its spot. Chinese news outlet Expreview reportedly discovered that Western Digital may have swapped the flash on its Blue SN550 SSD, which negatively affects its performance when the SLC (single-level cell) cache is depleted.

Previous to this I would recommend it for gamers, now it's looking like a gamble.
 
Western Digital are being bastards again. The WD Blue SN550 was a really impressive NVMe for its price, 1TB for under €90 with 2400/1750 read/write speeds, but now they're sneakily replacing the SLC cache on it.



Previous to this I would recommend it for gamers, now it's looking like a gamble.

I have the 2TB version of that. Good to know.

But yeah, if I do an upgrade, I'm probably not buying a WD drive any time soon.
 
So here's one

OK, I don't stay on top of all the developing tech, especially the industry designations. I'm not a gamer (well...if you have a hidden object, oh I'll find it and I'll put 3 of those balloons in a row and pop em like a bitch)
so the details are beyond me

It sure seems to suck right now with the chip shortages and the PoW mining across the board.

Anyway, My situation is a little different - I need a graphics card to support 3 HDMI monitors.
I'm using it for productivity (a couple of the monitors are input devices which is why they are separate) but no high load realtime 3D or anything, so I don't really need huge huge horsepower (compared to gamers)
it's a little more about connectivity and good sub-4k resolution.

any thoughts?
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Brain Problems
Isn't that what "business" cards like the Quadro are convenient for? Homogeneous outputs and decent performance.
dunno - I have trouble staying on top of all of it, the product lines, etc [I've to use too many dead programming langages to give it that much headspace I suppose]

I'll check into em, thanks (hopefully one can actually acquire them right now)
 
Isn't that what "business" cards like the Quadro are convenient for? Homogeneous outputs and decent performance.
Quadro cards are pricey new. Although if you really want to see heinously expensive you should see the NVIDIA licensing fees when using those same cards to provide virtualized desktops...
Anyway, My situation is a little different - I need a graphics card to support 3 HDMI monitors.
I'm using it for productivity (a couple of the monitors are input devices which is why they are separate) but no high load realtime 3D or anything, so I don't really need huge huge horsepower (compared to gamers)
it's a little more about connectivity and good sub-4k resolution.
You might have a look at used NVS cards on eBay. If you aren't really doing anything crazy graphically, and especially if you don't need more than 1080p, you could probably pick up something decent for not much more than the price of the miniDP->HDMI adaptors you'd need (just bear in mind that if you buy a half height card you might need to cut off the bracket bit up top with tin snips).
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
Reactions: Kane Lives
dunno - I have trouble staying on top of all of it, the product lines, etc [I've to use too many dead programming langages to give it that much headspace I suppose]

I'll check into em, thanks (hopefully one can actually acquire them right now)
Quadro K1200 if you just want to drive many displays using mini-displayport and the associated adapters as well as play games made prior to 2012. Can be bought from eBay used for $150(the GPU prices really fucked that one).
 
So here's one

OK, I don't stay on top of all the developing tech, especially the industry designations. I'm not a gamer (well...if you have a hidden object, oh I'll find it and I'll put 3 of those balloons in a row and pop em like a bitch)
so the details are beyond me

It sure seems to suck right now with the chip shortages and the PoW mining across the board.

Anyway, My situation is a little different - I need a graphics card to support 3 HDMI monitors.
I'm using it for productivity (a couple of the monitors are input devices which is why they are separate) but no high load realtime 3D or anything, so I don't really need huge huge horsepower (compared to gamers)
it's a little more about connectivity and good sub-4k resolution.

any thoughts?
GT 730? You can also buy adapter's as well
 
Anyway, My situation is a little different - I need a graphics card to support 3 HDMI monitors.
I'm using it for productivity (a couple of the monitors are input devices which is why they are separate) but no high load realtime 3D or anything, so I don't really need huge huge horsepower (compared to gamers)
it's a little more about connectivity and good sub-4k resolution.
Outputs are decided by the specific brand and model of the card. Even the same card (RTX 3070 or whatever) can have wildly varying jacks based on the manufacturer.

You're just going to have to buckle down and read the item description for each card, unless you're looking for someone to do your job for you, which I'm not going to do. This first searh result seems to have some 3x HDMI cards but I don't know how conclusive that list is, so maybe just try searching for "gpu with 3 hdmi" like I did. Newegg does seem to also have a filter option "3 x HDMI 2.0b" if you scroll down the left side of the page.

As for performance any mid-end card should handle three monitors just fine if you're not looking to use it for anything intensive. You can also use a DP port for HDMI with an adapter if it's just regular monitor usage.
 
Last edited:
  • Dumb
Reactions: Pissmaster
Back