US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Taliban leadership is more excited for American to get the fuck out of Afghanistan and their leadership has said not to make things too heated while the US already has egg on its face. Record the US fumbling around on their evacuations and looking pathetic and be sure to record your own guys doing nice things for little old ladies or something. Easy international optics win imo and it'd look even worse for the US to then turn around and try to reinvade Afghanistan after the Taliban let them leave without incident.
From a purely Taliban Leadership perspective, them leaving the Americans alone makes sense. However, you're going to have a lot of Taliban infantry on the ground, high on the smell of victory, with a seething (and based on drone strike numbers, likely personal) hatred for the Americans, in a position of power, watching a Marine QRF force come in with a "Plz don't fuck us up" flag at the lead. All it takes is one mistake from either side for an RPG to fly and then its all bets off. Hell, wouldn't even have to be a Taliban aligned fighter, just someone with an AK, tripping balls on Opium thinking the Americans are here to reinvade their country. Or hell, some ANA forces could see the American force as the opportunity they need to try and up the pace of the fight in Kabul, hoping to drag the US Military in to save their asses.

I can't speak at all to the likelyhood of any of these outcomes, but this is a very messy situation, with a very hateful enemy facing down an extremely paranoid, on edge military (Seriously, if any of those marines aren't worrying that the streets won't be *paved* in IED's by the time they show up, they're retarded), in a hot situation where both forces have been moving extremely fast with little time to collect and coordinate internally, much less communicate with the other side. There's so many ways this could go wrong, and very few ways that it goes right. And most of those ways it goes right relies on it going wrong and the other side not chimping out over it.
 
From the happenings thread, airstrikes and fighting in Kabul have already started.
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The best hope for the Americans and their allies is that the Taliban would be more interested in seeing them off and humiliating them. Escorting your enemy to the airport and then smiling and waving them off makes them look even more pathetic than actually fighting them. Taliban is basically taking over the country with zero effort already. Why draw down bad optics and start a large scale skirmish?

Edit: too late fighting has already begun. Talichads keep slaying, kings.
 
From a purely Taliban Leadership perspective, them leaving the Americans alone makes sense. However, you're going to have a lot of Taliban infantry on the ground, high on the smell of victory, with a seething (and based on drone strike numbers, likely personal) hatred for the Americans, in a position of power, watching a Marine QRF force come in with a "Plz don't fuck us up" flag at the lead. All it takes is one mistake from either side for an RPG to fly and then its all bets off. Hell, wouldn't even have to be a Taliban aligned fighter, just someone with an AK, tripping balls on Opium thinking the Americans are here to reinvade their country. Or hell, some ANA forces could see the American force as the opportunity they need to try and up the pace of the fight in Kabul, hoping to drag the US Military in to save their asses.

I can't speak at all to the likelyhood of any of these outcomes, but this is a very messy situation, with a very hateful enemy facing down an extremely paranoid, on edge military (Seriously, if any of those marines aren't worrying that the streets won't be *paved* in IED's by the time they show up, they're retarded), in a hot situation where both forces have been moving extremely fast with little time to collect and coordinate internally, much less communicate with the other side. There's so many ways this could go wrong, and very few ways that it goes right. And most of those ways it goes right relies on it going wrong and the other side not chimping out over it.
I said earlier American troops never suffered a Dien Bien Phu style humiliation in Afghanistan but if 5000 troops get Mogadishu'd in Kabul by the end of the week I'll have to seriously reconsider that.
 
The best hope for the Americans and their allies is that the Taliban would be more interested in seeing them off and humiliating them. Escorting your enemy to the airport and then smiling and waving them off makes them look even more pathetic than actually fighting them. Taliban is basically taking over the country with zero effort already. Why draw down bad optics and start a large scale skirmish?

Edit: too late fighting has already begun. Talichads keep slaying, kings.

Unfortunately you have to remember many of the Taliban infantry are low IQ, inbred jihadis thanks to all the cousin fucking in Muslim countries. They have no interest in the smart idea. The leadership probably would, but the leadership can only do so much before it takes one angry sped from popping off and ruining a well laid plan.
 
It is astounding how many people on the news subreddit implicitly trust whatever is written in a newspaper headline. Holy fucking shit.

The media has brainwashed a generation of Americans.
*Several* generations of Americans, it's because of repeated successive narrative collapses that people have started questioning that. Remember the Maine!

Unfortunately you have to remember many of the Taliban infantry are low IQ, inbred jihadis thanks to all the cousin fucking in Muslim countries. They have no interest in the smart idea. The leadership probably would, but the leadership can only do so much before it takes one angry sped from popping off and ruining a well laid plan.
It is probably Taliban leadership's interests in allowing the American military to get off scot-free, it reduces the amount of backlash they might get from the American establishment.
 
We look like massive, incompetent cucks before the entire world,
That's good for the American people. The more the regime looks like a bunch of bumbling incompetent fools and a clown show, the less weight their unconstitutional edicts hold. They are perceived as having less power and so actually end up having less power.
And this is just ONE REASON why I wonder about how people are so confident that if widespread election fraud was revealed, JoePedophile and the cackling whore will still stay in the White House.

Look at this. And look at it again. Putin has stated at least once before (in his own backhanded way) what he thinks. You think Duterte, Putin, Winnie the Pooh, and God knows who fucking else wouldn't tell the White House to shut the entire fuck up and please have all the seats? You think you won't hear brazen, frequent "Lol, not legitimate regime?"
Because I don't think the WH, Dominion, RINOS, and everyone else has thought this through.
They'll definitely try to stay in power, but they'll be isolated not just on the international stage, but domestically as well. Governors could just as well get together and decide things on their own and say fuck this illegitimate crew.
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Taliban leadership is more excited for American to get the fuck out of Afghanistan and their leadership has said not to make things too heated while the US already has egg on its face. Record the US fumbling around on their evacuations and looking pathetic and be sure to record your own guys doing nice things for little old ladies or something. Easy international optics win imo and it'd look even worse for the US to then turn around and try to reinvade Afghanistan after the Taliban let them leave without incident.

Almost certainly. We're on our way out, and the last thing they want to do is give us a reason to stay around longer. We're not going to be able to do much more than launch airstrikes in response unless we want to re-escalate, which would be political suicide.

If that happens, there is going to be absolute bedlam stateside.

I don't think it'll happen, but if it does, it'll make Mogadishu look like a day at Disneyland.
 
Are there any oldfag Kiwis here? I'm wondering who looked weaker, Carter on Iran, or Biden on Afghanistan. Now that I ask that... imagine if the Taliban takes hostages at the embassy. 😬
Biden looks weaker because he has put the USA in a position where they have to respond to the beck and call of the Taliban. In 2021. After 4 years of solid international policy from Trump..while trying to blame Trump for the failure of the military leadership to establish a competent fighting force after 20 years of training. 20 years. They coukd have bred children for the sheer purpose of holding guns at that time.

Incompetent does not begin to describe the current state of military leadership.
 
How on Earth did we get involved in Afghanistan again? I thought the Taliban were history.
We routed them with the Northern Alliance to weed out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan immediately following 9/11. Then we turned our mission into an neverending "Nation Building" exercise run by incompetent people, and then decided to try to duplicate that non-success in Iraq.
 
We routed them with the Northern Alliance to weed out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan immediately following 9/11. Then we turned our mission into an neverending "Nation Building" exercise run by incompetent people, and then decided to try to duplicate that non-success in Iraq.
What did Trump do in particular to ... not have this happen?
 
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