Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

ElsonSohai said:
So if the Taliban are executing afghans who helped the US, I'm guessing they will show no quarter to the Americans?

Genuinely curious.
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Like I said in another thread, I am putting my money on Gang Rape for a month then mass execution on 9-11.
 
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ditto said:
Any info on just how many western civilians are remaining in Kabul?
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There's not really any way to know. Governments can tell you about military personnel and diplomats but actual civilians like humanitarians, business folks, journalists and danger tourists are more difficult to track, especially if they went in through other countries.
Multiply this by the total number of Western countries and it's sheer chaos. Could be anything from a few hundred to tens of thousands.
 
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lmao
 
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ElsonSohai said:
So if the Taliban are executing afghans who helped the US, I'm guessing they will show no quarter to the Americans?

Genuinely curious.
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That is the wildcard of the weekend. Pragmatism says the Taliban leave the Americans alone to do their thing but Biden keeps bombing them so it can easily turn into a SNAFU situation with the Taliban destroying the runway with mortars and artillery. Hell they just captured a bunch of Super Tucanos which are CAS planes like the A-10, basically DESIGNED for that role. They have countless Humvees and MRAPs to stuff with munitions and suicide bomb with. The "Air Support" train has a ridiculous flight path to handle any sort of CAS duty, I don't know where the Carriers are but I would assume they're steaming to the best position to handle such duties -- which merely cuts down the distance down to 1200km rather than 3200km. Just so they can hurl a JDAM or two into the city and immediately fly home because the F-18 burns too much fuel to linger.
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Random Internet Person said:
As an Iranian would say, the country is getting 1979’d. https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/taliban-repression-afghan-women/31358597.html
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Let's be fair here, who can look at the west over the last 20 years and suggest that educated femenist women are a good idea?
Menotaur said:
The only solution for the people of the Afghan nation is to do something unthinkable.

Annex their country to another and grant the new country for which they call home to occupy it legally in all respects. Not just allow a force to exist within their borders; but to give up the rights entirely and allow a country to take it.

It is possible if the Afghan nation actually comes under the entire control of the Taliban that we may actually see one of the first declarations of War where China would side with the Taliban, and the USA, Russia and NATO would side with each other and go to a proxy war.

Then the winners get to split the vast spoils of sand and rock with each other.
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Yeah, no, that wont work either. Legit the only way Afghanistan would get un fucked at this point is to be utterly glassed, as in 90%+ population destruction, followed by absolute imperial control from another country. Granting another country control legally today would just result in the same civil war we've been observing since the soviet occupation.

Pull out, give them a chance at governing themselves for a century to see if they figure it out. If they get any funny ideas of pulling another 9.11 then just nuke the whole country. Fuck em.
Random Internet Person said:
The Afghan people WANT The Taliban in control? What does The Taliban have that makes them the best type of government for the people of Afghanistan?
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Well, lets see, they are not metrosexual westerners trying to spread failed ideas about feminism and CRT while ignoring boybussy rape. They're not oppressors that have occupied your region of the world for 20+ years. They offer ideals that at least on the surface the people want instead of the word of globohomo.

At no point during this occupation have the Americans made a substantial positive impact. Everything comes with caveats, cesspools full of corruption, and some of the worst nation building in history.

I think you REALLY underestimate how much the towel heads HATE, with a burning passion, the west, and America in particular.
 
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ElevenYearBeggacy said:
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"Libertarian man bad" says the Neocon faggot. If only we had 20 more years we could of saved Democracy in Afghanistan.
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The problem wasn't the withdrawal. It was how the Biden admin went about it. Who knows how it would have gone under Trump or someone else.
 
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tehpope said:
The problem wasn't the withdrawal. It was how the Biden admin went about it. Who knows how it would have gone under Trump or someone else.
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I'd put bets on a trump admin simply pulling out by the agreed date and the fall of Afghanistan squarely blamed on the incompetent afghanistani leadership and military. It's the fact that American forces are pulling out during the incursion that makes them look like utter fuckups.
 
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