Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[Comfy Gondola]

This whole thing going down the way it did is just amazing to me. Biden fucking up I can understand, he's geriatric, but did no one else in his vicinity think for just a minute that breaking the Trump treaty with the Taliban was going to result in a shitshow? How in the name of Jesus do you accidentally repeat Saigon?

It's so comically retarded I refuse to believe this isn't some kind of 4D chess move. Maybe the spin will be; "look how savage they are, everything's falling apart! Wouldn't you agree we need to go back and stay forever?" to get Zoomers motivated for war, now that 9/11 ceased being a potent way to get them on board with such.

A deep state conspiracy where it's all according to keikaku would be much more comforting than a world superpower that has apparently no one at the wheel suited to steer it. What the fuck was everyone thinking?

If I'm right, I can't wait for liberals to demand modern imperialism support for the poor women and gays and another 20 years of war democratization by the world police.

 

[Kiwisee]

They burnin BLM flags? NOICE!!!
also, you Americans got issues, bro...
EDIT: It's quite surreal that though the Taliban would kill me for my beliefs, I'm still rooting for them. At least they showed Globohomos who's boss!

Same here, bro.

hopefully they’re the ones who come to the USA and start training whites to get revenge against Washington

 

[Ghostse]

That bong should have stayed in Afghanistan and bred a few dozen brides for hire. His DNA is likely one of the handful of non cucked UK bloodlines that isn't extinct.

Nigga came so close to being a warlord and never even realized it.
OTOH, the non-stop propositioning from the Fagtuns and the Tajgays every Thursday would probably get utterly exhausting.

Per the NY Post, several of the Taliban leaders involved in the Reconquista of Afghanistan were the same lot who were traded for the US deserter Bowe Bergdahl by President Obama.

Taliban leader was freed from Guantanamo Bay in 2014 swap by Obama

When President Barack Obama released five Taliban commanders from the Guantanamo Bay prison in exchange for an American deserter in 2014, he assured a wary public that the dangerous enemy comb…

nypost.com

“Soon after gaining their freedom, some of the notorious Taliban Five pledged to return to fight Americans in Afghanistan and made contacts with active Taliban militants there. But the Obama-Biden administration turned a blind eye to the disturbing intelligence reports, and it wasn’t long before the freed detainees used Qatar as a base to form a regime in exile.”
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Eventually, they were recognized by Western diplomats as official representatives of the Taliban during recent “peace” talks.

Earlier this year, one of them, Khairullah Khairkhwa, actually sat across the table from President Biden’s envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, in Moscow, where Khairkhwa was part of the official Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the US withdrawal. The retreat cleared a path for the Taliban to retake power after 20 years.

“I started jihad to remove foreign forces from my country and establish an Islamic government, and jihad will continue until we reach that goal through a political agreement,” Khairkhwa said at the summit.”

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THANKS OBAMA!!!

This might have been the worst deal in the history of deals.
The fact that Bergnigger was not immediately hung for desertion beside Bradley Manning getting necked for treason is a miscarriage of justice.

 

[Divine right to rule]

This whole thing going down the way it did is just amazing to me. Biden fucking up I can understand, he's geriatric, but did no one else in his vicinity think for just a minute that breaking the Trump treaty with the Taliban was going to result in a shitshow? How in the name of Jesus do you accidentally repeat Saigon?

It's so comically retarded I refuse to believe this isn't some kind of 4D chess move. Maybe the spin will be; "look how savage they are, everything's falling apart! Wouldn't you agree we need to go back and stay forever?" to get Zoomers motivated for war, now that 9/11 ceased being a potent way to get them on board with such.

A deep state conspiracy where it's all according to keikaku would be much more comforting than a world superpower that has apparently no one at the wheel suited to steer it. What the fuck was anyone thinking?

If I'm right, I can't wait for liberals to demand modern imperialism support for the poor women and gays and another 20 years of war democratization by the world police.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Politicians are not that smart. They are liars, cheats and power mongers. Their plans of action are normally very on the nose. The common man on the street normally understands the real meaning of political double speak. Joe, his administration, his military cronies and the media just fucked up. That's it.

 

[Dojima's Dragon]

Its not a shock at how fast the Taliban took Afghanistan when the American allies pacifying the rural parts of the country are drug smugglers and warlords with literal harems of child sex slaves, what's shocking is the administration believed those people would fight to the death for a fucking month.
Empowering the worst scum and degenerates in Afghanistan is one of the many reasons why masses of the Afghan military immediately surrendered to the Taliban.

The other shocking thing is how modern American military doesn't fucking plan for anything anymore, not a single asshole thought it was a good idea to plan for an Afghan withdraw, it seems like most of the military leadership was relying on Afghan being a forever war and no president would actually pull the trigger on a full withdraw.
Up until the end of the Cold War military planners would autistically create plans for literally every scenario they could think of so they don't have to start from zero if something catches them by surprise.
I'm sure many of you have seen the invasion plans for invading Canada but there are entire archives of plans, everything from invading Mexico and South America, amphibious/airborne invasion of Mainland China, repelling a Soviet/Chinese invasion that may start with a nuclear first strike and what a withdraw from the islands would look like in that scenario, and many more.

Doesn't this something have to do with the us age ole tactic of being unpredictable In their battles with no planning involved which if most murica wars post-ww2 is anything to go by yeah it's been a disaster

 

[Screamer]

Once you realise the MSM going after Biden, criticising him is actually because they're pro-endless wars and Industrial Military Complex. Not because the withdrawal is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. It starts to become less entertaining.

The first time Biden gets bad press is stopping wars. Just as the only time Trump got good press was bombing Syria.

I have been thinking about Biden because I agree with many of his reasons for why the US should leave and am anti-US imperialism. What if Biden is being even more based than we think over this?

What if the 'powers that be' were not letting him withdraw? Remember, 'they' wouldn't let Trump withdraw from Syria and then lied to him about troop numbers there. Biden is up against all that. 'They' don't want the US out of Afghanistan. Biden was part of the Obama Administration which was meant to be anti-war and yet Obama got talked into starting more wars. Biden knows how this shit works. Or at least does on his good days.

We know Biden wanted out. He was frustrated at Obama staying. What if the delay past Trump's May 1st deadline was not just politics and "fuck Trump", but because 'they' wouldn't let him? Maybe his plan was to do what he could to force a US exit. Be damned the consequences or how it looks. Taking the personal hit for the greater good.

Things like Biden ignoring the Taliban resuming control of the country was just part of making it impossible for them to stay.

Maybe the lack of questions is him just being, "fuck this, I got us out you ungrateful shits."

It's just musings but I think there could be something to the notion that this was the only way it'd ever end. Otherwise, it'd just be drawn out, to never happening. As shown by the last 20 years. In a way, Trump set up Biden to be finally able to do it.

 

[DyingStarsForever]

I have a hard time seeing this as such a massive fuck up. Kabul fell with barely any lives lost, the govt. and the ANA just laid down their arms and left. This little resistance just goes to show how little business the US had there after the objective (capture and kill bin Laden) was achieved and how little was accomplished. At some point the commander in chief just had to cut the losses. Not following through with the original date was a bad idea, especially in hindsight, but I doubt it would have made much difference over a few years time.

Yes, Biden said that things were going to go much better than they did, but he also said that this wasn't a conditional withdrawal, they were doing this no matter what. I think even he knew that this was going to be terrible but played the part of a politician and lied about it to get it done with.

 

[Hackallier]

I found a very good video documenting the adventure of Lord Miles:

 

[Comfy Gondola]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

I agree with that, but the last few decades have shown that there is a lot of hidden things going on underneath the hood. It's become so bad (or maybe just more obvious) in recent years, that I instantly expect some kind of secret, calculated plan to fuck us all over.

I guess when it comes down to it they might've planned something here, but were too stupid to carry it out correctly and the result is what we got. I just can't believe that the highest echelons of power could fuck up this hard, no matter how stupid they are, but that might just be cope.

 

[Ghostse]

Once you realise the MSM going after Biden, criticising him is actually because they're pro-endless wars and Industrial Military Complex. Not because the withdrawal is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. It starts to become less entertaining.

The first time Biden gets bad press is stopping wars. Just as the only time Trump got good press was bombing Syria.

I have been thinking about Biden because I agree with many of his reasons for why the US should leave and am anti-US imperialism. What if Biden is being even more based than we think over this?

What if the 'powers that be' were not letting him withdraw? Remember, 'they' wouldn't let Trump withdraw from Syria and then lied to him about troop numbers there. Biden is up against all that. 'They' don't want the US out of Afghanistan. Biden was part of the Obama Administration which was meant to be anti-war and yet Obama got talked into starting more wars. Biden knows how this shit works. Or at least does on his good days.

We know Biden wanted out. He was frustrated at Obama staying. What if the delay past Trump's May 1st deadline was not just politics and "fuck Trump", but because 'they' wouldn't let him? Maybe his plan was to do what he could to force a US exit. Be damned the consequences or how it looks. Taking the personal hit for the greater good.

Things like Biden ignoring the Taliban resuming control of the country was just part of making it impossible for them to stay.

Maybe the lack of questions is him just being, "fuck this, I got us out you ungrateful shits."

It's just musings but I think there could be something to the notion that this was the only way it'd ever end. Otherwise, it'd just be drawn out, to never happening. As shown by the last 20 years. In a way, Trump set up Biden to be finally able to do it.

Stop simping for Biden you fag.

If he wanted out, why are we sending 7000 more troops to the country? Biden got talked into thinking he was invincible by his cronies, and got sack tapped by the Taliban who had been playing it cool.

 

[Shadfan666xxx000]

Once you realise the MSM going after Biden, criticising him is actually because they're pro-endless wars and Industrial Military Complex. Not because the withdrawal is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. It starts to become less entertaining.

The first time Biden gets bad press is stopping wars. Just as the only time Trump got good press was bombing Syria.

I have been thinking about Biden because I agree with many of his reasons for why the US should leave and am anti-US imperialism. What if Biden is being even more based than we think over this?

What if the 'powers that be' were not letting him withdraw? Remember, 'they' wouldn't let Trump withdraw from Syria and then lied to him about troop numbers there. Biden is up against all that. 'They' don't want the US out of Afghanistan. Biden was part of the Obama Administration which was meant to be anti-war and yet Obama got talked into starting more wars. Biden knows how this shit works. Or at least does on his good days.

We know Biden wanted out. He was frustrated at Obama staying. What if the delay past Trump's May 1st deadline was not just politics and "fuck Trump", but because 'they' wouldn't let him? Maybe his plan was to do what he could to force a US exit. Be damned the consequences or how it looks. Taking the personal hit for the greater good.

Things like Biden ignoring the Taliban resuming control of the country was just part of making it impossible for them to stay.

Maybe the lack of questions is him just being, "fuck this, I got us out you ungrateful shits."

It's just musings but I think there could be something to the notion that this was the only way it'd ever end. Otherwise, it'd just be drawn out, to never happening. As shown by the last 20 years. In a way, Trump set up Biden to be finally able to do it.

Dude, all of our shit didn't have to be left behind. This dumbass had us give up millions (if not billions) in equipment up to the Taliban when he could have handled it decently.

 

[Titos]

If this whole shitshow demonstrates one thing it's that the people in charge of the military of the US are utterly incompetent retards. I'm sure some of those people also help manage the National Guard, you know the ones guarding the politicians in DC behind razor wire. I would not doubt that alot of "people" like Pelosi are shitting their pants at the prospect of another 1/6 happening only this time actually violent and emboldened by the fact that they know the US military/Guard are full blown incompetent.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

I have a hard time seeing this as such a massive fuck up. Kabul fell with barely any lives lost, the govt. and the ANA just laid down their arms and left. This little resistance just goes to show how little business the US had there after the objective (capture and kill bin Laden) was achieved and how little was accomplished. At some point the commander in chief just had to cut the losses. Not following through with the original date was a bad idea, especially in hindsight, but I doubt it would have made much difference over a few years time.

Yes, Biden said that things were going to go much better than they did, but he also said that this wasn't a conditional withdrawal, they were doing this no matter what. I think even he knew that this was going to be terrible but played the part of a politician and lied about it to get it done with.

that airport still has thousands of people (a lot of them foreigners) still stuck there, americans are not yet all out of there - it's not over yet. and it's why I dearly wish the taliban just disabled the fuckin' runway with mortars, which the US troops there would have no way of preventing. I'd reaaaaaally wanna see Biden try to spin that!

and that's not even counting the tens of thousands of collaborators stuck throughout the country, who will no doubt be hunted down and purged by the taliban in the following months, with their liveleak execution vids probably dripping out too. no matter how much you'd want to call this 'just ripping the band-aid off,' having to witness a steady, monthly stream of execution videos of people you promised to help in return for them working with you will not feel like that!

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

The data loss is an absolute disaster. So much info gone.

So much evidence of corruption, you mean
Tinfoil hat on: I'm entertaining the idea that it was done in this fashion in order to bury the evidence

Edit: Ah you meant the site stuff. I was raving about Afghanistan thing.

 

[SeniorFuckFace]

Before you say it won't happen, I'd like to direct your attention to the 1970's.

Can you clarify this?

 

[Ghostse]

If this whole shitshow demonstrates one thing it's that the people in charge of the military of the US are utterly incompetent retards. I'm sure some of those people also help manage the National Guard, you know the ones guarding the politicians in DC behind razor wire. I would not doubt that alot of "people" like Pelosi are shitting their pants at the prospect of another 1/6 happening only this time actually violent and emboldened by the fact that they know the US military/Guard are full blown incompetent.

But they don't misgender Trannies and are working on including CRT into basic training, and that's what REALLY matters.

 

[Euler's identity]

 

[Ghostse]

Can you clarify this?

@Jet Fuel Johnny means that like the 1970s, the next 10 years will be filled of movies showing the US military as brutish at best and usually just a bunch of psychopathic cowards who are very brutish.

It will be the fault of the military that Afghanistan went back to a shit show where feminism is dead and trannies are misgendered and faggots pushed off buildings. Oh and I guess some boys will get systematically raped (because its not gay if its with a boy. Thanks Alexander.)

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

I'm reposting my point that this is now Biden's legacy. Fuck up son. Incompetent administration. Botched withdrawal.

"America is back" is now a horrible lie. Can't keep to agreements. Can't train an army. Can't
pull civilians out in an orderly fashion.


Biden is a weak man on the precipice. Hurricane winds are coming.

You would assume Joe knows all about withdrawal thanks to his son Hunter
Think Afghanistan was bad? Heh!

 

[Screamer]

Dude, all of our shit didn't have to be left behind. This dumbass had us give up millions (if not billions) in equipment up to the Taliban when he could have handled it decently.

It's the ANA's shit. That aint US flags painted on those Blackhawks.

The US awasted a few trillion, what's a few billion left behind.

Anyway, it's just a thought about what could have lead to the way this is going down.

We're seeing in the press, "Biden was ignoring reports of the Taliban taking territory." I've been looking at it through the lens of, "why didn't they get the people out sooner." Which holds true and is a fuck up.

Yet the other angle I am seeing this portrayed is one that Biden should have started ramping up the war, which is staying longer.


So, possible explanations.

1. Biden is clueless and asleep. Kamala is just given adult colouring books to keep her occupied and away from anything important.

2. Biden didn't care about the Taliban taking over the country. He knew it'd happen and would make staying near impossible.

3. Biden didn't trust the reports. Thought it was more of the same bullshit they used to continue the endless wars. The same tactics they used to make Obama act in a pro-war, expanding the war manner.


I suspect it's probably a combination of the last two. It was never meant to end this fucked up, but this is how we got there.