Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

Shamash said:
Your underestimating how brainwashed and fanatical the NPCs are, and how much the ruling class really wants to crush MAGA Americans.

Even now, they are making Jan 6 defendants go through re education programs where they must learn to worship Blacks and weep at first syllable of the word holocaust. If they refuse, then they rot, if they become good little NPCs-then the system promises leniency.

"Wanna see your kids again? Then write that essay about why you must atone for White privilege."

"Refuse? Well, your going to stay here the rest of your life, and we're going to ensure your kids are anathema and can not get access to schools or jobs"

What do you think the Jan 6 defendant will do? What most of them will do?

How many MAGA Americans will sacrifice their children's futures and any hope of a peaceful life?

I'm sorry but they won't, even if that means writing re education essays and watching Schindler's List.
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The same thing we've always done. Lie to them and live our lives. You honestly believe the federal government in it's current form could maintain control of the continental united states? Do you think most people who are in the military are leftists lmfao?

You guys want to live under this idea of the all powerful left have fun, but realistically on the ground where the people are? They have no control. Look at a "Blue" state sometimes, and explain how one or two cities will hold anything. What you're saying relies on the gentlemans agreement of "people won't attack the government." That goes out the window in your scenario, hell the far left is already attacking them so they do that, what stops the right?

But honestly, if you can't figure out a way to fuck with the government through pure malicious compliance already you might as well give up because you've already lost. This is really simple shit bro, just don't do what they want. Worst they can do is kill you.
 
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DumbDude42 said:
you're wrong. air superiority IS the silver bullet in an actual war. american military capabilities were and still are the best on the planet, no other power even comes close to being able to compete. the actual war in afghanistan was won in weeks. same in iraq.

it is not military failure that causes american defeat in these situations, but political failure. to put it simply: an armys purpose is fighting against other armies. the americans do this extraordinarily well, they are extremely effective at it.
an army can do wars, occupations, crackdowns, ethnic cleansing, genocide, deportations, scorched earth, bunch of other nasty shit, no problem. if what you need is violence, the military delivers. but if you want to build states, legal systems, public institutions, economies, and all that kind of shit which is needed to form a sovereign nation? that's not something generals and soldiers can do for you, it is simply outside their expertise.

my point is that americas failures are diplomatic and political in nature, not military.
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How the fuck can you say "the actual war was won in weeks" when 99% of the combat casualties came after that point? I guess 20 years of shooting, bombing, and burning each other doesn't count as war? Yes I'm sure if our enemies decide to line up and fight exactly as we want them to, we can kill a bunch of them. But the second they decide to not do that, and we have to fight on their terms, we lose. 20 years of combat operations failed to degrade the ability of the Taliban to make war. In fact they ended up stronger after 20 years of facing "American military capabilities" than they were before hostilities began. That is a military failure.
 
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los pepes said:
How the fuck can you say "the actual war was won in weeks" when 99% of the combat casualties came after that point? I guess 20 years of shooting, bombing, and burning each other doesn't count as war? Yes I'm sure if our enemies decide to line up and fight exactly as we want them to, we can kill a bunch of them. But the second they decide to not do that, and we have to fight on their terms, we lose. 20 years of combat operations failed to degrade the ability of the Taliban to make war. In fact they ended up stronger after 20 years of facing "American military capabilities" than they were before hostilities began. That is a military failure.
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Referring to the invasion I guess.

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United States invasion of Afghanistan - Wikipedia

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los pepes said:
How the fuck can you say "the actual war was won in weeks" when 99% of the combat casualties came after that point? I guess 20 years of shooting, bombing, and burning each other doesn't count as war? Yes I'm sure if our enemies decide to line up and fight exactly as we want them to, we can kill a bunch of them. But the second they decide to not do that, and we have to fight on their terms, we lose. 20 years of combat operations failed to degrade the ability of the Taliban to make war. In fact they ended up stronger after 20 years of facing "American military capabilities" than they were before hostilities began. That is a military failure.
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actual war means military conflict between two states, carried out by their respective armed forces. the islamic emirate of afghanistan had ceased to exist at that point, so the war was over. what followed was a prolonged occupation with occasional partisan attacks against the occupying forces.

it's somewhat comparable to the nazi invasion of france - the actual war was won within less than two months, after that came a prolonged occupation. the nazis too faced partisan attacks from the occupied french, but they had a reputation for carrying out extremely harsh reprisals after such events, so it remained a somewhat rare occurence. american occupiers in afghanistan however didn't do any of that reprisal stuff, which means all the locals were free to ambush and attack them as much as they wanted, cause they knew that as long as they don't get caught in the act, nothing bad will come of it.
 
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No flights in or out of Kabul all day on flightradar

The "airport is open" is the new "Safe and 100% Effective"

I see no indications of any activity....landing or taking off other than the few C-130's we have video's of yesterday
 
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make_it_so said:
"Wife, I have finished my daily prayer! Bring forth my tendies!"

Meanwhile, apparently we were planning on using Bagram in the evac.
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not sure I trust this 'former' military intelligence operative on this

Also, it seems to be a common claim amongst conservative retards that Biden refused this plan because having helicopters flying to Bagram airbase instead of helicopters flying to Kabul airport would look more like Ho Chi Minh city 1975. This is pretty much the opposite of the truth, obviously it would've been easier to keep random puppet regime torturers and others worried about the liberation of Afghanistan away if they'd reoccupied Bagram.
 
Screamer said:
Once you realise the MSM going after Biden, criticising him is actually because they're pro-endless wars and Industrial Military Complex. Not because the withdrawal is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. It starts to become less entertaining.

The first time Biden gets bad press is stopping wars. Just as the only time Trump got good press was bombing Syria.

I have been thinking about Biden because I agree with many of his reasons for why the US should leave and am anti-US imperialism. What if Biden is being even more based than we think over this?

What if the 'powers that be' were not letting him withdraw? Remember, 'they' wouldn't let Trump withdraw from Syria and then lied to him about troop numbers there. Biden is up against all that. 'They' don't want the US out of Afghanistan. Biden was part of the Obama Administration which was meant to be anti-war and yet Obama got talked into starting more wars. Biden knows how this shit works. Or at least does on his good days.

We know Biden wanted out. He was frustrated at Obama staying. What if the delay past Trump's May 1st deadline was not just politics and "fuck Trump", but because 'they' wouldn't let him? Maybe his plan was to do what he could to force a US exit. Be damned the consequences or how it looks. Taking the personal hit for the greater good.

Things like Biden ignoring the Taliban resuming control of the country was just part of making it impossible for them to stay.

Maybe the lack of questions is him just being, "fuck this, I got us out you ungrateful shits."

It's just musings but I think there could be something to the notion that this was the only way it'd ever end. Otherwise, it'd just be drawn out, to never happening. As shown by the last 20 years. In a way, Trump set up Biden to be finally able to do it.
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It's really interesting how the media gave Joe all these easy questions for him to answer or doddled on ice cream because they know he's incompetent and not entirely there yet suddenly they got word from their masters to play hard, really shows you they don't care about anyone.
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It's be a shame if the Taliban overran the airport and forbade any Afghan from leaving. What a nightmare that would be.
Indian J.C denton said:
Ironically enough it's the sheikh's kids that tend to act like this either the muzzies I saw were either drink like a Irishman or fuck whores like crazy while having dad's that scream about how TV's are the devil
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It's an open secret that every Muslim from some prince's kid to the oil sheiks to suicides bombers fuck whores and drink in whatever western country they are in.
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They really can't move on from Trump. He's like an ex-boyfriend some girl can't avoid talking about every other setence.
 
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Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth said:
The same thing we've always done. Lie to them and live our lives. You honestly believe the federal government in it's current form could maintain control of the continental united states? Do you think most people who are in the military are leftists lmfao?

You guys want to live under this idea of the all powerful left have fun, but realistically on the ground where the people are? They have no control. Look at a "Blue" state sometimes, and explain how one or two cities will hold anything. What you're saying relies on the gentlemans agreement of "people won't attack the government." That goes out the window in your scenario, hell the far left is already attacking them so they do that, what stops the right?

But honestly, if you can't figure out a way to fuck with the government through pure malicious compliance already you might as well give up because you've already lost. This is really simple shit bro, just don't do what they want. Worst they can do is kill you.
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Exactly. These are the people
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They aren't in control of anything and are absolute cowards. No one should fear or respect them at all. The nose has been exposed.
 
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