Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[mindlessobserver]

Real talk: I had never once heard the phrase "called a lid" before Biden and now I hear it every other day

And not one iota of responsibility. We KNOW Afghanistan is fucked up. We've known it for YEARS. All Biden had to do was stand in front of those flags like JFK did after the bay of pigs and apologize to the American people for the failure of the Federal Government. Instead he blamed past Presidents and the Afghanis, ignoring the fact that he has been involved in this mess since it started. He voted to start it in 2001 for Christ's sake.

These people in Washington think the electorate is stupid. That we are incapable of understanding complex issues. I am reminded of the response of the Japanese Government following the Tsunami and the subsequent nuclear disaster at Fukushima. They got handed a once in a 1,000 year disaster. And did they use that as an excuse for their failure? NO. They bowed their heads to the electorate and confessed their sins. They were all voted out on their ass subsequently, but nobody hates them a decade later. And nobody is questioning the legitimacy of Japan's government a decade later either.

But the politicians in Tokyo understood something the Washington Elite do not. Power comes with responsibility. And if you fail in that responsibility it does not matter WHY. All that matters is that you FAILED.

Biden needs to resign. And Kamala too for hiding under a rock and hoping the senile dementia patient gets all the blowback. We aren't stupid Kamala. We know who is actually in charge.

 

[MrJokerRager]

America was called a misogynistic and patriarchal hellhole last year by BLM niggers and woke cunts. Democrats since last year have been forcing people to year masks on pain of having people's lives and their kid's lives destroyed as well as keeping them inside their houses.

Why should I care at this point at women's rights in Afghanistan, the Afghans made their choice, they want the Talichads and Chalibans. They were telling us last year to listen to lived experiences of PEE OOO CEEs and brown people. The choices of what the Afghans want, should be respected.

no

it appears an Ad-Hoc Northern Alliance Militia and reorganized ANA group is counterattacking the city with air support

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1427762159111581696?s=20

This is according to /GPG on /Pol anyway

If true, they will get btfo lol this time. Taliban are stronger now than in the 1990s.

 

[Bongocat]

H.Res.57 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Impeaching Joseph R. Biden, President of the United States, for abuse of power by enabling bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Summary of H.Res.57 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Impeaching Joseph R. Biden, President of the United States, for abuse of power by enabling bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

www.congress.gov

>Rep. Greene, Marjorie Taylor [R-GA-14]

No offense but were you born yesterday?

 

[Tour of Italy]

very optimistic take imo
i think that in terms of american domestic politics nothing much will come of this. couple weeks, maybe months, and it will be old news, memory holed, irrelevant. swamp doesnt care, dem voters either don't care or cope with the usual "orange mans's fault!" stuff, rep voters will seethe impotently for a while and then forget about it like they always do.

and civil war? people didn't take up arms when nignogs were burning american cities last year, they didn't take up arms when they thought that a literal federal election was stolen from them, but you think they will take up arms over some retard shit going down in some backwards desert shithole on the other side of the planet? fuck no they won't.

Maybe I'm being naive about this, but I think this will be harder to shovel away. I think the images are too vivid and graphic, and the wounds too deep. People in their fourties have spent over half of their lives seeing the US at war in Afghanistan. For a large portion of the voting public, it's all they've ever known.

I have otherwise apolitical family members who have been in tears over this for days. They know thousands of US friendly Afghanis are going to die. They've seen the mass of humanity at the airport.

Dark times though they are, I think this is the first thing in years that has the potential to shock people back to reality.

 

[HumanHive]

They're talking 25th and Impeachment already.

They're even talking about throwing Cockmala out on her cackling ass and viewing Pelosi as the lesser evil.

But Pelosi does NOT want to be president. She's got a nice cushy thing set up and planned (or at least claims to plan) on retiring in 2022.

This has potential massive repercussions. There is no "I will do this distasteful thing for the good of the nation" any more, just "How can I build up and profit from kingdom building" and "Who can I suck off, open my asscheeks for, to get a load of money blown into me?"

People already had a great mistrust of the government. People are seeing the Leeloo Dallas Vaxpass as what it is with what's happening in New York.

Biden went and hid in bed while Jill managed his calls. He kept taking lids. He didn't talk to any other world leaders. Harris is MIA. Psaki had to be dragged back to DC where she looks completely out of her league.

This has huge ramification and consequences. Not just to foreign policy, not just to America's ability to work on the world stage, but to the entire West as well as domestic concerns.

Like someone said upthread: This isn't the straw that broke the camel's back, this is the elephant that crushed it.

To quote the old song:

"I hear the train a-coming, coming round the bend..."

And this isn't going to be Thomas the Tank Engine.

This train is on fire, has jumped the tracks, and isn't slowing down.

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My sources tell me the mood is the American public will “get over it” and nobody is to even mention resigning as that might snowball.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Okay, so I suck nuts in Photoshopping, but here we go.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Maybe I'm being naive about this, but I think this will be harder to shovel away. I think the images are too vivid and graphic, and the wounds too deep. People in their fourties have spent over half of their lives seeing the US at war in Afghanistan. For a large portion of the voting public, it's all they've ever known.

I have otherwise apolitical family members who have been in tears over this for days. They know thousands of US friendly Afghanis are going to die. They've seen the mass of humanity at the airport.

Dark times though they are, I think this is the first thing in years that has the potential to shock people back to reality.

Watching Afghanis fall from the sky was a gut punch. The war ended the way it began. With civilians choosing a sky burial because of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. My generation, the early millenials and late Gen Xers. We gave up so fucking much because of what happened on 9-11. And all we have to show for our blood sweat and tears is ashes.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Is this how they’ll view white folks now?

 

[Ahriman]

Report: Taliban Pledges Safety, Says Afghans No Longer Need Firearms

The Taliban has begun seizing personal weapons and indicates individual Afghans "can now feel safe" and no longer need the firearms.

www.breitbart.com

U.S. to Americans in Afghanistan: We 'Cannot Guarantee Your Security'

The U.S. sent a notice to Americans trying to escape Afghanistan to go to the Kabul airport, but it could not guarantee their security.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

1) People like this are who the Afghan army lost to. "Well trained" my ass. Not that I think any of our training and gear would have ultimately saved them, and apparently their leadership threw them under the bus harder than ours is.
2) We now live in a time where third worlders can give us direct feeds of regime change. I want more vids.

That's a really interesting point I was thinking about how surreal it is when the news says Taliban fighters are taking selfies in the Presidential Palace in Kabul. So these fighters living in caves have smart phones and the means of communicating their own narrative on a mass scale. It makes sense but its also the cheap availability of these devices in the modern world today that's astounding.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Am I missing something that right wing muslims and neo confederates are finding common cause lol?

 

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>Rep. Greene, Marjorie Taylor [R-GA-14]

No offense but were you born yesterday?

Look, Biden can get away with being a baby-blood drinking pedophile in alliance with the GOMMUNIST CHINESE but he can't get away with abandoning the thots of Kabul.

 

[Meat Target]

And not one iota of responsibility. We KNOW Afghanistan is fucked up. We've known it for YEARS. All Biden had to do was stand in front of those flags like JFK did after the bay of pigs and apologize to the American people for the failure of the Federal Government. Instead he blamed past Presidents and the Afghanis, ignoring the fact that he has been involved in this mess since it started. He voted to start it in 2001 for Christ's sake.

These people in Washington think the electorate is stupid. That we are incapable of understanding complex issues. I am reminded of the response of the Japanese Government following the Tsunami and the subsequent nuclear disaster at Fukushima. They got handed a once in a 1,000 year disaster. And did they use that as an excuse for their failure? NO. They bowed their heads to the electorate and confessed their sins. They were all voted out on their ass subsequently, but nobody hates them a decade later. And nobody is questioning the legitimacy of Japan's government a decade later either.

But the politicians in Tokyo understood something the Washington Elite do not. Power comes with responsibility. And if you fail in that responsibility it does not matter WHY. All that matters is that you FAILED.

Biden needs to resign. And Kamala too for hiding under a rock and hoping the senile dementia patient gets all the blowback. We aren't stupid Kamala. We know who is actually in charge.

Dems aren't one for falling on their swords.

I just think there's going to be some domestic fallout from all of this.

Probably, with how fucked the Right has become, it'll be in the form of saying stuff on Twitter.

Maybe I'm being naive about this, but I think this will be harder to shovel away. I think the images are too vivid and graphic, and the wounds too deep. People in their fourties have spent over half of their lives seeing the US at war in Afghanistan. For a large portion of the voting public, it's all they've ever known.

I have otherwise apolitical family members who have been in tears over this for days. They know thousands of US friendly Afghanis are going to die. They've seen the mass of humanity at the airport.

Dark times though they are, I think this is the first thing in years that has the potential to shock people back to reality.

It will be subtle. The plummeting trust in institutions will now reach the military, which has avoided it all these years. "Vet cred" will lose its influence.

The late, once-great United States will die not with a bang, but with a whimper.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Am I missing something that right wing muslims and neo confederates are finding common cause lol?

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You are bearing witness to the power of hatred. You think 9/11 would be cheered if it happened tomorrow morning and it went the same way?

They're talking 25th and Impeachment already.

They're even talking about throwing Cockmala out on her cackling ass and viewing Pelosi as the lesser evil.

But Pelosi does NOT want to be president. She's got a nice cushy thing set up and planned (or at least claims to plan) on retiring in 2022.

This has potential massive repercussions. There is no "I will do this distasteful thing for the good of the nation" any more, just "How can I build up and profit from kingdom building" and "Who can I suck off, open my asscheeks for, to get a load of money blown into me?"

People already had a great mistrust of the government. People are seeing the Leeloo Dallas Vaxpass as what it is with what's happening in New York.

Biden went and hid in bed while Jill managed his calls. He kept taking lids. He didn't talk to any other world leaders. Harris is MIA. Psaki had to be dragged back to DC where she looks completely out of her league.

This has huge ramification and consequences. Not just to foreign policy, not just to America's ability to work on the world stage, but to the entire West as well as domestic concerns.

Like someone said upthread: This isn't the straw that broke the camel's back, this is the elephant that crushed it.

To quote the old song:

"I hear the train a-coming, coming round the bend..."

And this isn't going to be Thomas the Tank Engine.

This train is on fire, has jumped the tracks, and isn't slowing down.

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Too much too quickly. Can't spin it outside their bubble. If anything, people know how the left can be defeated in this country.

and civil war? people didn't take up arms when nignogs were burning american cities last year, they didn't take up arms when they thought that a literal federal election was stolen from them, but you think they will take up arms over some retard shit going down in some backwards desert shithole on the other side of the planet? fuck no they won't.

You make it sound like there's nothing that'll start a civil war. Either that or my theory is that someone realized the gravity of what a civil war entails, especially if you lose. Funny what happens when you step away from the Internet.

In case anyone was wondering, ALL refugee/asylum category immigrants are automatically eligible for the tastiest gubbernment cheese. So you no longer have to wonder whether the US is taking in these ragheads fully on your dime. All of these people will receive housing, muh healthcare, food vouchers, a hundred other poorman benefits (free tuition, free services, etc), and of course... cash assistance.

Any of them who then wish to claim disability (SSDI) will be fast-tracked. Also whatever olds or feebs are present will easily get SSDI payout (last I heard it was about $900 per month for a single, add food stamps, subsidized housing, and healthcare).

I'm sure some of them will break out of the ghetto, but they will face some tough hurdles, such as having their benefits slashed the second they start making more than a few hundred bucks per week. Anyone who has experience with our welfare systems knows what's up. Will these people easily be able to jump into $20/hr.+ jobs and sever the welfare cord? How long will it take? How much money will be spent before that happens? Studies have shown that you're a bigot for asking.

Then comes the fambly reunification. Did you know that once you're here on a bulletproof asylum residency (shit you can even commit crimes without fear of deportation!) you can drag your elderly relatives over, who then immediately receive SSI without having paid in? I'm not sure how the economic side of that works but I'm assured it's SCIENCE approved. Other, less-old fambly can come over with their dependents and join the subsidy train too. Land of plenty! Another trillions!

So America continues to be a welfare state and it seems we run the risk of Europe 2015. There's also the chance that things go to prison rules because of course they would, and if welfare payments are a matter of contention, like many other things, how long before we see the consequences of people realizing the ultimate way to stop the problem is for blood to be spilled?

My sources tell me the mood is the American public will “get over it” and nobody is to even mention resigning as that might snowball.

Sounds like America, and the Internet. I mean, we still have every left wing city continuing to see if they could go back to the height of the lockdowns, so we basically have a double barreled shotgun of reasons for brewing resentment towards the left and the Biden Administration. Come back in a few months and see what people are bitching about then.

 

[Ahriman]

A better look at the C-17 landing gear.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The late, once-great United States will die not with a bang, but with a whimper.

And China will rise and the CCP Dynasty will last for a thousand years at minimum.

It will be subtle. The plummeting trust in institutions will now reach the military, which has avoided it all these years. "Vet cred" will lose its influence.

You overestimate the faith the left has in The State and the way some people will push people into the military, whether it's family tradition and lineage, the prestige and job openings that come with going to a service academy, or even enlisting because it's a fast way to pay for college or get American citizenship. Unless there's a full scale mutiny and militias a la The Troubles or the civil wars of Africa and Syria, the military will endure.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

How the fuck can you say "the actual war was won in weeks" when 99% of the combat casualties came after that point? I guess 20 years of shooting, bombing, and burning each other doesn't count as war? Yes I'm sure if our enemies decide to line up and fight exactly as we want them to, we can kill a bunch of them. But the second they decide to not do that, and we have to fight on their terms, we lose. 20 years of combat operations failed to degrade the ability of the Taliban to make war. In fact they ended up stronger after 20 years of facing "American military capabilities" than they were before hostilities began. That is a military failure.

not to bring too much nerd shit ITT, but I feel like this entire conflict really has proven the upcoming Dune's saying as very applicable to overall military strategy.

americans like to fight fast and stronk, because they got all the shiny tech and training to protect them. but with guerilla warfare the saying really applies after 20 years of war - 'It is the slow blade that penetrates the shield.'

 

[Dom Cruise]

Tom Clancy is probably spinning in his grave, he was the king of believing the US military is some unstoppable force and the US will always prevail.

There's a hilariously dated and naïve interview with him on Charlie Rose in 2000 where he dismisses the idea that China could ever be a serious rival to the US.

If anything it's too bad he isn't still around just to imagine what he would say.

 

[Titos]

4 is just what China’s going to be doing now. And they’ll pay hush money over Xinjaing (assuming the Taliban give a shit).

I mean, people have lost faith over the elections after 2020. All that needs is people thinking there’s going to be a return to 2020 rules.

It's gotten to the point where if some towelheads flattened all of NYC I'd be out dancing naked in the rain drinking champagne and blasting Steely Dan. That's how much I hate these people, I know I shouldn't but they had their chances to stop being retarded and they refused time and time again. If the world is fucked I can at least jerk off over my enemies corpse before being lined up against the wall.

 

[XANA]

I think public reaction will be mixed, with people outraged over the collapse skewing towards middle-age, since they're more likely to remember when we got dragged into this mess in the first place, or knew someone who had died there, whether personally or hearing about it from a friend/family member. It has the potential to greatly shake people's faith in the current administration, although in the greater scope of the picture, it will just as likely be swept under the rug and dressed up as something that tragically happened, but ultimately wasn't their fault since the Afghan military basically tucked tail and ran away the second they saw turbans pop over the hills. Somewhat related, but the US' military-industrial complex will probably not suffer as a result.

Troops are already being re-deployed to Afghanistan in a (possibly futile) bid to retake the land. With the MI complex, there will always be another war for them to gain profits from. Plus, they have too much sway over politicians and actively lobby against the very thought that maybe over 50% of the US' GDP probably shouldn't be going towards war.