TGWTG The Spoony One / Spoony / Noah Antwiler and Rachel Baker / @RaeAngel07 - The touching romance between a washed-up videogame reviewer throwing a decade-long pity party and his delusional Canuck stalker. #weaknotsick #donttellmehowtosulk

I have to go against the grain and say that Spoony moving back to his family is probably the best thing that could happen to him. I know there's a strong chance he'll continue to mope around simply live off them without doing much in return, but having any human contact on a regular basis is infinitely more healthy than being holed up in his dedicated Twitter bunker.
 
I have to go against the grain and say that Spoony moving back to his family is probably the best thing that could happen to him. I know there's a strong chance he'll continue to mope around simply live off them without doing much in return, but having any human contact on a regular basis is infinitely more healthy than being holed up in his dedicated Twitter bunker.
That's not against the grain. Everyone knows Spoony's better off being taken care of like an invalid sped by his family if he's not going to provide for himself.
 
I have to go against the grain and say that Spoony moving back to his family is probably the best thing that could happen to him. I know there's a strong chance he'll continue to mope around simply live off them without doing much in return, but having any human contact on a regular basis is infinitely more healthy than being holed up in his dedicated Twitter bunker.
Oh I agree, the main reason he got so slovenly and lost his audience is because he needs someone to boot him into getting back to work. Even though this won't lead to Spoony's comeback, he'll be better off in the long run.
 
TL DR I just don't get what anyone saw in him in the first place.
Back in the day he was mostly known for videos, where his shitty character wasn't so evident and any drama of him banning people on his forum was limited to that forum. However, when he switched to streaming, he had no way of hiding it and it quickly became obvious what a giant douche he is.
 
Back in the day he was mostly known for videos, where his shitty character wasn't so evident and any drama of him banning people on his forum was limited to that forum. However, when he switched to streaming, he had no way of hiding it and it quickly became obvious what a giant douche he is.
The Forum banning was usually Scarlett's doing. He would hide behind her and other mods, usually justifying their doing in the process. Also his V-logs were made to show him as humble and flawed person, often with excuses why he isn't making videos at the moment. I remember that in one of his videos he said he was suffering writer's block, and he was making videos for few years at that point, less then 5 years.

As for streaming, he made those just to e-beg for money, so he would pay his bills. I don't think he was trying to build a career out of those, because that would require commitment and giving a crap. And I do think he would do better if he made slightly edited videos with light commentary, instead of those embarrassing streams, like his Swat ones.
 
Well he didn't stream when his Patreon was 5000. 2000, 1000 $$$ per month. He started Streaming when he needed to pay the bills, buy food and stupid nerd crap. Don't know how much per month was he at, when he made his first stream, but I do know that he didn't mind the tips.
For the fuck of it, because you can't be bothered to take 5 minutes out of your day to verify shit.

First Live Wire i can find in 5 minutes
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First 2015 Archive I found in 5 minutes.
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He streamed throughout may 2015 consistently, every few days.

Edit: I'm not running a defense for Noah, it just annoys me seeing someone make claims without 5 minute google/archive search, FFS.
 
I'll say that he has good points in a few of them. I agree that what happened in the Vampire LARP was bullshit, and oftentimes LARPs get caught up in petty infighting amongst a core group who take everything over because they suck off the GMs. His response was kind of hilarious but also way over the top, however, I don't know what kind of "change from the inside" thing you can do when the powerful players are so entrenched they just beat the shit out of the newbies until they go along with the status quo. In reality, it was just a shitty game and he should have walked away. I don't remember the L5R story offhand but that also sounds pretty much par for the course.

Really, his All Jedi or No Jedi story is the highlight of Spoony's Counter Monkey vids in my opinion, in that it shows how he has good advice and is actually knowledgeable about games, but is also a raging asshole. Up until the newest edition of the Star Wars RPG, which has managed to balance Jedi with other characters, this was sound advice; Jedi could fuck up a game really quickly, and you could easily extrapolate that advice to any other game with a character type that could screw things up because of power levels. The fact that he completely ignores this advice to fuck over a friend's game by not playing a Jedi in an all Jedi game, and gleefully recounts how he uses obscure rules and sourcebooks just to be a dick, is Spoony in a nutshell.

You guys whiteknighting Spoony is missing the forest for the trees.

It’s not about any single encounter, look at his over all pattern of behavior.


What do all those RPG stories have in common? A narcissist bragging about how smart he is, and how he managed to technically not break any rules while fucking with players/DM’s/the spirit of the game.


Paper RPGs are all about having a good time and joint adventures. Creating a world and a story for a few hours.


Spoony? He sees them as an opportunity to either demonstrate how smart he is compared to plebs, or to change the rules as he sees fit.


He reminds me of a vastly more intelligent Chris-Chan. Only except for giving his character ALL the stats and shitting all over the rules, he finds loopholes to live out his power fantasies.


I bet a lot of people who played RPGs with him remember them. But none of them for having a good time.
 
I bet a lot of people who played RPGs with him remember them. But none of them for having a good time.
He could have just used the internet to live out those fantasies anonymously. Instead he did it irl. A common theme among people spoonys age I've noticed is they always make their lives worse by not using the internet properly. On an everyday level I mean, not lolcow level.
 
Spoony? He sees them as an opportunity to either demonstrate how smart he is compared to plebs, or to change the rules as he sees fit.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, though. I stand by those two examples that he was in the right in. I won't defend anything else.
 
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, though. I stand by those two examples that he was in the right in. I won't defend anything else.

Call me old fashioned, but I still think it’s a dick move to ruin a LARP Vampire game for everyone just because they’re not sucking your cock when you show up and want to play as another faction.

Also: I have some serious doubts as to what Spoony describes actually happened.

In reality he probably got humiliated over what had happened and weaved this tale of what SHOULD have happened that totally COULD have happened if Spoony had just thought of it sooner.

The reaction of the GM is a typical “Stunned by my brilliance” Spoony-story.

In reality the GM probably said. “Oh, it turns out you mixed the explosives wrong, they don’t go off!” And Spoony left humiliated, seething over “breaking the rules” to prevent him from ruining the game and with tears in his eyes.

And concocted the story later as a power fantasy/revisonist Spoonyism.
 
You guys whiteknighting Spoony is missing the forest for the trees.

It’s not about any single encounter, look at his over all pattern of behavior.


What do all those RPG stories have in common? A narcissist bragging about how smart he is, and how he managed to technically not break any rules while fucking with players/DM’s/the spirit of the game.
Definitely. People not seeing the pattern in his videos, especially regarding counter monkey is pretty strange at this point. Almost every video that isn't just him flipping through a book he probably never used, is either a story about how correct he is and everyone else is just dumb, or it's some rant about the "proper" way to play according to spoony. Beforce virtual tabletops became so prominent(fantasy grounds, roll20, etc.) it would have been fairly simple to basically burn through all of his local groups in just a few years as people find out he's "that guy". And we know full well by the time he was in Illinois he was basically a shut-in.
Paper RPGs are all about having a good time and joint adventures. Creating a world and a story for a few hours.
For the most part, yeah. This actually reminds me of an interesting variant of "that guy" I've known for a while. Dude joins a new game, and it either falls apart after a few sessions(a lot of games do) or he drops out after a few sessions with some reason or excuse("I don't get the system", never bothered to read the rules, won't collaborate with other players, doesn't like when the DM deviates from whatever his expectation is, etc.) Outside of TTRPGs? Perfectly OK to hang around with. At the gaming table? It's basically a disaster waiting to happen, and when he moved out of state found a local game store and tried joining gaming groups there he's still bouncing after a handful of sessions, has the same complaints, etc. The reason I mention this individual, is that like spoony he doesn't seem to actually be self aware of what's going on. Somehow it's everyone else that is always the problem in a TTRPG.
Also: I have some serious doubts as to what Spoony describes actually happened.
Back to spoony and his stories, I have similar doubts but mine might be for a different reason. The DMSO squirtgun wars in Shadowrun and trying to bomb a vampire LARP over being mad/upset about factions, and the DM, etc? I'm 90% certain I heard stories incredibly similar to these before I ever heard about ol' spoony when he was popular. I wouldn't be surprised if he took some other people's stories from forums/newsgroups/etc. and poached interesting details to fill in his own bland experiences.
 
Spoony? He sees them as an opportunity to either demonstrate how smart he is compared to plebs, or to change the rules as he sees fit.


He reminds me of a vastly more intelligent Chris-Chan. Only except for giving his character ALL the stats and shitting all over the rules, he finds loopholes to live out his power fantasies.


I bet a lot of people who played RPGs with him remember them. But none of them for having a good time.
No, I agree with you. Every time he brings up a good point, he immediately turns around and shits all over anyone else who tries to go along with it. As I said, his playing a non-Jedi in an all Jedi game is a prime example. Spoony has always struck me as the "alpha nerd," the guy who was slightly better looking and cooler than the other people he hung out with, but it's a matter of degree, like being the smartest kid with Downs syndrome. As soon as he was exposed to the internet at large, he became a small fish in a big pond, and he couldn't handle that.
 
No, I agree with you. Every time he brings up a good point, he immediately turns around and shits all over anyone else who tries to go along with it. As I said, his playing a non-Jedi in an all Jedi game is a prime example. Spoony has always struck me as the "alpha nerd," the guy who was slightly better looking and cooler than the other people he hung out with, but it's a matter of degree, like being the smartest kid with Downs syndrome. As soon as he was exposed to the internet at large, he became a small fish in a big pond, and he couldn't handle that.

“Alpha nerd” is such a good term for Noah, because that’s exactly who he is.

Compared to the fat nerd with the acne sitting next to him, Noah is a fucking Chad who might have amazing tales to tell of going to a bar and a getting (a 6 or a 7) girl’s phone number.

Now outside of your typical group of 90ies era nerds, Noah ain’t nothing special. But I’ll bet you he knew he was the Alpha Nerd and enjoyed the fuck out of it.

He was (and is) also the incarnate contrarian, which was probably tied to his Alpha Nerd status.

Just taking the Jedi video as example:

Everyone liked West Ends D6 Star Wars? Pfft! Noah thought it sucked! Fucking lame dude!

Noah is so clearly used to other nerds just nodding and “oh yeah totally! I mean I kinda like it, but yeah you have a point!”
Because nobody wants to start shit with the Alpha nerd, and unlike Noah, the other players are there for a good time, not to mark their territory.

(And btw: How can it be a problem that all the players attack the Sith? Wasn’t there a bunch of Stormtroopers? What were they doing? Scratching their balls and watching the fight? None of this would be a problem for a smart DM to deal with. Except for maybe players going after Darth Vader, which is exactly what you’d expect in a cinematic RPG like SW, lol!

Like most of his RPG stories it boils down to Noah either being a dick or not understanding the game. Or just making most of it up.)


Noah was an alpha nerd, but the reason he became popular was pure dumb DSP-luck. He was doing the right thing at the right time, RIGHT when the internet started booming with what evolved into streamers and content producers.

Noah, true to his contrarian nature, of course chose to piss it all away, and became the internet equivalent of a mentally ill homeless man.

Standing on the street corner with a hat and “need $ for food” sign while yelling and shaking his fist at cars passing by.
 
Call me old fashioned, but I still think it’s a dick move to ruin a LARP Vampire game for everyone just because they’re not sucking your cock when you show up and want to play as another faction.
No, they had it coming. They didn't warn him about playing a Carthian, for starters, which is basic courtesy if you're going to be trucking with a chapter you're not familiar with. There's not sucking your cock and there's "Hey look, an outsider, let's strip his agency completely and make it nothing but a torture porn he can do nothing but suffer in."

This is of course, assuming everything went down as he said. I'm giving him some benefit of the doubt because I've experienced something similar, although our revenge came much more subtly and later.

And Spoony left humiliated, seething over “breaking the rules” to prevent him from ruining the game and with tears in his eyes.

And concocted the story later as a power fantasy/revisonist Spoonyism.
They ruined the game for him, however. Again, assuming it went down as he said, he was giving them a taste of their own medicine.
 
I have to go against the grain and say that Spoony moving back to his family is probably the best thing that could happen to him. I know there's a strong chance he'll continue to mope around simply live off them without doing much in return, but having any human contact on a regular basis is infinitely more healthy than being holed up in his dedicated Twitter bunker.
It's the best option for Spoony, but dear lord his poor family. At least his parents might enforce some hygene.
 
It's the best option for Spoony, but dear lord his poor family. At least his parents might enforce some hygene.
Does anyone know how old his parents are? I know he has two siblings a decade older than him, so assuming they were in their 30s when they had him they'd be in their 70s by now.

He's probably waiting for them to die so he gets an inheritance.
 
Does anyone know how old his parents are? I know he has two siblings a decade older than him, so assuming they were in their 30s when they had him they'd be in their 70s by now.

He's probably waiting for them to die so he gets an inheritance.
That's a sad thought. Hopefully it's split evenly between his other siblings, so he can't just wallow in his parents' house and turn it into a hovel as well.
 
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