Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[Alex Krycek]

If only Hazar rambo would go and single-handedly defeat the Taliban.

Edit: The more I think about this the gayer you are, telling someone to take a plane ticket and go die is retarded armchair heroics.

 

[Gimmick Account]

As for why the US has an autistic fetish for installing democracies wherever they can, it's easy to buy their governments out when there isn't a king even as a token authority who has to sign off on shit.

I mean yeah but they're also kind of locked into the LARP at this point, once you equate the "democracy" and the dollar with god you can't really switch up the mandate for your future crusades. It's not like they even declare their wars anymore, I dunno how you'd sell a police action back home if the end result is just capturing pikastan in a vassal ball

Edit: plus there's so much money in "rebuilding". Why not make a huge fucking mess and come back in a decade or two? There's only so many nations in the middle east; it's like crop rotation.

 

[lolwatagain]

Yuge if true.
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How fucked up is it that the penance for a major fuck-up that will likely end up with US Citizens dead is to retire with full benefits.

And somehow this will save other worthless bureaucrats who are just as responsible, if not more responsible for this massive fuck up.

 

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Who, @3119967d0c? The LARPing Islamposter? Say it ain't so.

cry more faggot. You lost

 

[Disheveled Human]

Call me MATI, but goddamn, the sheer incompetence and flippancy on display is just fucking disgusting. These people don't give a flying fuck about anything other than their own skins and they would rather let countless atrocities happen than own up to their mistakes and admit they aren't fit for the job.

I don't think there's been a worse time to be alive. America is self-destructing thanks to a bunch of useless buffoons being in power and if the USA goes then it's game over for the whole planet simply for the fact that the alternative is far worse than America has been. Two governments - that is, South Africa and Afghanistan - have all but collapsed; one by way of hostile takeover, the other through anarchy by assassination. China and Russia have barely had to lift a damn finger to destroy their biggest roadblock and are on track to make a move on their surrounding neighbors any day now. People are still acting like the coronavirus is an all-powerful deadly disease and are enforcing Orwellian policies that boil down to "fuck you, get the shot or your freedoms and social standing get bent" and it's done nothing but harm everyone trying to comply with the law under duress - which was most likely the plan from the start. Woke ideologies have infiltrated everything from the highest echelons of the government down to their selectively chosen commercials and advertisements meat to subtly brainwash people into accepting all of this as the new normal. And that's just the tip of the iceberg as far as I know.

At this point I don't know if humanity has a future. Everything has fallen apart so rapidly in less than a year and it gets exhausting to see the worst of the human race being so flagrant in its contempt for people just trying to live. Those in power exist to serve the people. We don't exist to serve them. Same thing goes for law; the limits on what people can do needs to be in service of the people, not the powerful. But everyone is scared to act against or defy those with power and money in fear of their self-preservation.

At what point do we get sick of being powerless in the face of corruption and incompetence and make our voices heard? At what point do people want to stop being fed bullshit and wake the fuck up to the truth? At what point does everyone collectively scream "enough is enough" and start taking charge in making life better for both themselves and their fellow man?

Sorry for the long-ass doompost. It just never seems to fucking end with this wretched 24-hour kabuki circus and this forum is the only place I feel like I can vent to people who understand similar frustrations.

Personally I think things are going great. Ride'n With Biden.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

The 82nd has possibly the worst leadership in the entire army. They were trying to pay people like 60k to reenlist at one point, and still, no one was taking it because it's such a garbage unit.

Weird thing is, I just looked up the current guy, who took charge in 2020.

Former Delta Force, 4 Bronze Stars for Valor, operator experience planning and carrying out ops. Dedicated parachutist (not many officers bother with the Honduran Airborne Badge), looks like he could pass the PT test.

But 82nd's problems go WAAAAY beyond their CO. Most of the problems I heard were at Battalion and Company level, because 82nd attracts all the dicksucker officers and Senior NCOs.

Still, they deployed without any translators, when I know for a fact they have extensive MI shops and could have grabbed a few from there (unless the Modern Caring Army doesn't keep DLI grads in MI units any more).

Plus, from some photos, it really looks like they're wandering around without ammo or their bolts.

I'd like to find out what units within 82nd deployed, take a look at their commanders.

True story: During an operation in a live fire zone back in the bad old days, a unit from 82nd showed up. There was a problem one night at the gate that resulted in someone getting fucked up from 82nd. Apparently the 82nd CO wouldn't let his men pack ammo or the bolts in their weapons (because he'd correctly heard that the ammo guys would pass out ammo just for asking) because he was literally afraid he and the 1SG would get shot.

I've never forgotten that.

 

[Haint]

Not entirely related but holy shit I never realized how big those cargo planes are, the inside looks massive

Its not that big. I am pretty sure that C-17 was overloaded (not to mention the toliet can by the end of the flight), amazing it was able to climb out on departure. Its an extremely noisy ride and quite cold at altitude as well, though much better than traveling on C-130s. Dont know how long the flight to Al-Udeid AF base in Qatar though. No one would have survived the flight hanging on the outside of the aircraft, temperature drops rapidly as one ascends in altitude. Anyone in the wheel bay would be crushed instantly upon wheels up.

I feel for the aircrew, the experience is going to mess them up mentally for a long time.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Its not that big. I am pretty sure that C-17 was overloaded (not to mention the toliet can by the end of the flight), amazing it was able to climb out on departure. Its an extremely noisy ride and quite cold at altitude as well, though much better than traveling on C-130s. Dont know how long the flight to Al-Udeid AF base in Qatar though. No one would have survived the flight hanging on the outside of the aircraft, temperature drops rapidly as one ascends in altitude. Anyone in the wheel bay would be crushed instantly upon wheels up.

I feel for the aircrew, the experience is going to mess them up mentally for a long time.

I've been on C130s packed like those C17s. It was hell until we jumped out. We had people backed up onto the actual ramp. But yeah good info about the C17

 

[Niggerman]

This has to be the second most humiliating event in American history, first being bunch of moose humping Canadians cucks burning down the White House. We have had stronger nations lose guerrilla war before but this time bunch of goat farm by themselves with no foreign support BTFO Burgerland. Truly a inspiring story.

 

[MG-34]

Yuge if true.
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That asshole should literally fall on a sword or willingly eat his GO pistol.

 

[Sped Xing]

This has to be the second most humiliating event in American history, first being bunch of moose humping Canadians cucks burning down the White House. We have had stronger nations lose guerrilla war before but this time bunch of goat farm by themselves with no foreign support BTFO Burgerland. Truly a inspiring story.

The Canadians didn't do that.

 

[Haint]

I've been on C130s packed like those C17s. It was hell until we jumped out. We had people backed up onto the actual ramp. But yeah good info about the C17

Spent several tours at AL-Udeid AB, preparing "Care packages" for the Taliban. Still gets my dick hard remembering watching fully loaded B-oners that I fueled, thunder into the night sky. Will never forget getting the report that 3 of our aircraft repulsed an attack on a FOB, knowing my hand was in it.

Good times, but for what now?

 

[Sped Xing]

Good times, but for what now?

Kleos aphthiton.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Weird thing is, I just looked up the current guy, who took charge in 2020.

Former Delta Force, 4 Bronze Stars for Valor, operator experience planning and carrying out ops. Dedicated parachutist (not many officers bother with the Honduran Airborne Badge), looks like he could pass the PT test.

But 82nd's problems go WAAAAY beyond their CO. Most of the problems I heard were at Battalion and Company level, because 82nd attracts all the dicksucker officers and Senior NCOs.

Still, they deployed without any translators, when I know for a fact they have extensive MI shops and could have grabbed a few from there (unless the Modern Caring Army doesn't keep DLI grads in MI units any more).

Plus, from some photos, it really looks like they're wandering around without ammo or their bolts.

I'd like to find out what units within 82nd deployed, take a look at their commanders.

True story: During an operation in a live fire zone back in the bad old days, a unit from 82nd showed up. There was a problem one night at the gate that resulted in someone getting fucked up from 82nd. Apparently the 82nd CO wouldn't let his men pack ammo or the bolts in their weapons (because he'd correctly heard that the ammo guys would pass out ammo just for asking) because he was literally afraid he and the 1SG would get shot.

I've never forgotten that.

The 82nd gets a lot of leadership that looks good on paper but has absolutely zero ability to lead. This whole thing with the British isn't the first time a unit from the 82nd has been around foreign units, and their commanders criticized them for incompetence and soldier abuse. Assuming the new division commander isn't the aforementioned kind of leader the unit attracts, he wouldn't really be able to do much since the leadership there is so corrupt they'll find a way to oust him. Really the US military simply doesn't have the extreme methods on the books which would be needed to handle a unit like that.

 

[Niggerman]

The Canadians didn't do that.

that makes it a lot less humiliating . imaging losing to a group of people that like to cry themselves to sleep in the cornor of their bedroom as legions of negros hump their wives

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Spent several tours at AL-Udeid AB, preparing "Care packages" for the Taliban. Still gets my dick hard remembering watching fully loaded B-oners that I fueled, thunder into the night sky. Will never forget getting the report that 3 of our aircraft repulsed an attack on a FOB, knowing my hand was in it.

Good times, but for what now?

As someone who got some Bone assistance thanks man. Ultimately the friends you made and what you learned about yourself is all we can count now

 

[Tree]

I see there's at least two sets of parents in Afghanistan that actually care more about their children than themselves.

I remember seeing one of those videos from the initial evac where there were a ton of Afghans scrambling up a set of stairs to get into the sky bridge. Every single one of them were fighting-age men. Not one woman or child among them. In the picture taken in the cargo plane, the crowd was primarily fighting-age men there, too. You can tell how much their wives and young children, sisters and mothers actually mean to the average Afghan man. It's absolutely disgusting and legitimately one of the most cowardly things I've ever seen.

In any case, I hope the children who got passed to the front of the gates make it out and are well taken care of. I may hold great disdain for the adult Afghans, but the children deserve absolutely none of what's happening.

Kids are not perfectly atomized and innocent individuals. That is a modern notion. They are biologically, socially, and metaphysically tied to parents, people, and place. They do deserve more leniency, but to think all kids are equal is as much a lie as thinking all adults are.

I know this sounds mean, but to dissociate child from parent is to invite unspeakable evil to the world, even if at times it can be harsh for children who inherit misfortune. The maternal instinct is insidiously dangerous.

 

[VolkAnsGewehr]

The Canadians didn't do that.

Yeah. We did. The 'British' that burned the whitehouse down were given land in Canada as compensation for their military service and became the English Canadians. It was more affordable than sending them back to England and giving them property over there.

 

[Gottahavemysips]

But why did the Biden administration drag their feet way past the May 1st deadline?
It surely hasn't worked out well for them politically, seeing how the world is mocking them and even their lapdog media is starting to low-key criticize them over this.

Here are some theories that I've seen on social media or come up with myself:

• Theory 1: TDS. Leaving by May 1st was Trump's plan, so they just had to miss that deadline out of spite.
  
  
• Theory 2: Forever war aspirations. They were biding their time and hoping that their glowniggers could pull off some fuckery that would make it politically viable to cancel the troop evacuation and stay in Afghanistan for another 20 years. But somehow that failed.
  
  
• Theory 3: Incompetence. They failed to listen to the people in the military who could have told them that the Afghan government & army was a joke, and thus really got caught by surprise by the Taliban's fast takeover.
  
  
• Theory 4: Vanity. Biden wanted the conclusion of the evacuation to coincide with the anniversary of 9/11 so that he could hold a schmaltzy speech along the lines of "Bush started this; I ended it!" and be celebrated by his lapdog media as the second-greatest president ever (after Black Jesus).

What do you think?

I'm going to go with theory 4. Setting the deadline for the drawdown to be completed by September 11 tells it all. Biden skull fucked the withdrawal to gamble on a PR stunt. I'm sure other factors went into it as well, but the fact that was the completion date set tells all.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Good times, but for what now?

The contractor that sold us the Taliban "care packages", aka the SecDef's immediate former employer