Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

What the fuck are you going up about? I never talked about being at good odds?
It was all about being willing to stand up for your own people. At least Finnish people weren't annexed like the confederates? Looks like we made it better with worse odds.
There was an entire slice of Finland annexed by the Soviets - ever heard of Karelia? It’s just north of Leningrad Oblast and still contains many ethnic Finns.
 
Just a reminder that in 2007 the USAF had a Nuclear incident where a B-52 flew nukes from Minot to Barksdale. A big nono that got the Sec of the Air Force and USAF Chief of Staff fired, along with numerous high ranking officials disciplined.

DEFSEC Austin and Gen Milley left THOUSANDS of American citizens, along with other nations citizens relying on the US, behind in Afghanistan. So shouldn't these two chucklefucks be fired also due to incompetence?
 
Just a reminder that in 2007 the USAF had a Nuclear incident where a B-52 flew nukes from Minot to Barksdale. A big nono that got the Sec of the Air Force and USAF Chief of Staff fired, along with numerous high ranking officials disciplined.

DEFSEC Austin and Gen Milley left THOUSANDS of American citizens, along with other nations citizens relying on the US, behind in Afghanistan. So shouldn't these two chucklefucks be fired also due to incompetence?
2007 was 14 years ago at this point, things have changed dramatically, and I would doubt that US Military High Command is the least of those changed things. Not that they aren't going to be fired, but I have some doubts.
 
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American cultural imperialism.
 
yes but azerbaijan is small and not very influential, also far away from afghanistan (basically it's on the other side of iran)
Ah, right, my mistake. Last I checked the Azeris were preoccupied with A-logging over anything and everything remotely related to Armenia and rolling around in their piles of Caspian oil cash.
 
There was an entire slice of Finland annexed by the Soviets - ever heard of Karelia? It’s just north of Leningrad Oblast and still contains many ethnic Finns.
The other half of my family is from there... Let's just say they didn't stick around to find out if Stalin would be merciful. (lol)

I wish Karjala (Karelia) split off in the 90s with the other Baltic states. It's mostly populated with Russians that colonized after ww2. It's really dilapidated.
 
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It’s officially Joever.
The pictures showing naive Taliban fellas in big city Kabul aren't really trolling.

British invaders in 2001 found that some of the civilians they victimized in remote hollers weren't surprised to see British troops coming to kill them- after all, they were well aware of the British invasion of 1919, and while not aware of the other developments within 10 miles of Kabul that related to some theoretical 'government of Afghanistan' since then recognized that the main external enemy was simply coming back again. Obviously, that wasn't the majority, most Afghans were aware of the Soviet invasion at least. But it is still a free and rural population. But now, the Taliban government have more properly spread throughout.
The other half of my family is from there... Let's just say they didn't stick around to find out if Stalin would be merciful. (lol)

I wish Karjala (Karelia) split off in the 90s with the other Baltic states. It's mostly populated with Russians that colonized after ww2. It's really dilapidated.
You wish... ethnic Russians... had chosen to split off from Russia and ally with the jew-controlled bitches in the Baltic states? That's rather optomistic.
 
https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/bidens-state-dept-halted-trump-era-crisis-response-plan/

EXC: Joe Biden's State Dept Halted a Trump-Era 'Crisis Response' Plan Aimed at Avoiding Benghazi-Style Evacuations Just MONTHS Before Taliban Takeover.​


Raheem J. Kassam

7-9 minutes



Joe Biden’s State Department moved to cancel a critical State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months prior to the fall of Kabul, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

The “Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau” – which was designed to handle medical, diplomatic, and logistical support concerning Americans overseas was paused by Antony Blinken’s State Department earlier this year. Notification was officially signed just months before the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan.
“SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED,” an official State Department document from the Biden State Department begins, before outlining the following move the quash the Trump-era funding for the new bureau.
The document is from the desk of Deputy Secretary of State Brian P. McKeon, confirmed in March by the United States Senate.

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Evidence of the pause in the program by Biden’s State Department.

The document is dated June 11, 2021, though The National Pulse understands the decision to pause the program may have come as early as February, both undermining the original Trump-era date for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, and certainly giving the Taliban time to threaten American assets and lives on the run up to Joe Biden’s September 11th date of withdrawal.
The subject line reads: “(SBU) Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau,” and the body of the document recommends:
“That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR), and direct a further review of certain associated Department requirements and capabilities.”
It goes on:
“That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, CCR, consistent with the applicable legal requirements, necessary stakeholder engagement, and any applicable changes to the Foreign Affairs Manual and other requirements.”
The document reveals the recommendations were approved on June 11th 2021.
Speaking exclusively to The National Pulse, former President Donald J. Trump blasted Biden’s irresponsible move:
“My Administration prioritized keeping Americans safe, Biden leaves them behind. Canceling this successful Trump Administration program before the withdrawal that would have helped tens of thousands Americans reach home is beyond disgraceful. Our withdrawal was conditions-based and perfect, it would have been flawlessly executed and nobody would have even known we left. The Biden execution and withdrawal is perhaps the greatest embarrassment to our Country in History, both as a military and humanitarian operation.”
In a lengthy article in Vanity Fair from May 2021, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR) – also referred to in overlap with a predecessor/partner bureau called “OpMed” is described as a “little-known team of medics and miracle workers—hidden deep within the U.S. Department of State.”
“Even before COVID reared its head, OpMed was finding ways to do all sorts of things, serving as the hidden hand behind daring and often dangerous operations to rescue Americans from peril abroad,” the article states, before going on to quote Secretary of State Tony Blinken on the importance of the program’s goals.
“The Bureau of Medical Services’ Directorate of Operation—or ‘OpMed,’ as we call it—is a lifeline for the Department of State and the American people… Though perhaps lesser known outside of the Department, it’s vital to our operations. That’s because OpMed provides the platform and personnel to save American lives around the world, especially in times of crisis. During the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic, OpMed was integral to our evacuation and repatriation of 100,000 Americans to the United States as countries began locking down their borders.”

But The National Pulse understands that career officials inside the State Department objected to the Trump-era aim of creating a Contingency and Crisis Response bureau with the express purpose of avoiding a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.
Instead, Biden’s team revoked the funding and the approval for the plan, even as the COVID-19 crisis reasserted itself, and and Afghanistan withdrawal loomed.
Vanity Fair reported in May:
“OpMed emerged from the ashes of Benghazi, where, on September 11, 2012, militants attacked the U.S. consulate, killing America’s ambassador to Libya, an information management officer, and two CIA contractors. The day’s events rocked the national security establishment and prompted years of recrimination, congressional hearings, and blue-ribbon commissions. When the dust more or less settled, several findings emerged: First, Pentagon officials had long warned their counterparts at the State Department about the “tyranny of distance” in Libya and other parts of North Africa. Second, CIA medics on the scene in Benghazi played an indispensable role in saving the lives of gravely wounded diplomatic security personnel. Finally, an interagency panel of experts concluded that, in light of the “grossly inadequate” response time to evacuate the injured from Benghazi, “State must ensure it has the capability to rapidly deploy crisis responders and evacuate […] personnel in harm’s way.”
“Responsibility for internalizing these lessons and bolstering the department’s ability to treat its own fell in no small part to William Walters, who had joined State in December 2011 in what for nine months had largely been a role in search of a mission: managing director of operational medicine. He had served with the Army’s most elite special operations unit and held the euphemistic title of deputy command surgeon for sensitive activities at the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). “They wanted a guy who understood the Pentagon but could also wear cuff links,” he said with a laugh, recalling the clash of cultures. And yet Doc Walters, as he is known in the corridors of Foggy Bottom, quickly emerged as a contrarian (in a department that values consensus) and an egalitarian (in an organization that’s been a bastion of elitism since 1789).”

A 2022 State Department Budget Justification document presented to the U.S. Congress earlier this year notes on page 22: “The Department has paused implementation of Op Med (CCR) pending a policy review.”
On August 15th, Biden’s State Department was forced to issue a humiliating statement warning U.S. citizens that the Embassy in Kabul would be unresponsive to their requests for help.
At the time of publication, Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby said the U.S. military is attempting to move 5,000 to 9,000 people to safety per day, according to the Associated Press.
The news flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claims that his government planned for “every contingency” in the war-torn country.
The National Pulse also understands no Congressional notification was sent to the United States Congress, as is required, upon the pause.
 
https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/bidens-state-dept-halted-trump-era-crisis-response-plan/

EXC: Joe Biden's State Dept Halted a Trump-Era 'Crisis Response' Plan Aimed at Avoiding Benghazi-Style Evacuations Just MONTHS Before Taliban Takeover.​


Raheem J. Kassam

7-9 minutes



Joe Biden’s State Department moved to cancel a critical State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months prior to the fall of Kabul, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.

The “Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau” – which was designed to handle medical, diplomatic, and logistical support concerning Americans overseas was paused by Antony Blinken’s State Department earlier this year. Notification was officially signed just months before the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan.
“SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED,” an official State Department document from the Biden State Department begins, before outlining the following move the quash the Trump-era funding for the new bureau.
The document is from the desk of Deputy Secretary of State Brian P. McKeon, confirmed in March by the United States Senate.

View attachment 2457857

Evidence of the pause in the program by Biden’s State Department.

The document is dated June 11, 2021, though The National Pulse understands the decision to pause the program may have come as early as February, both undermining the original Trump-era date for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, and certainly giving the Taliban time to threaten American assets and lives on the run up to Joe Biden’s September 11th date of withdrawal.
The subject line reads: “(SBU) Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau,” and the body of the document recommends:
“That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR), and direct a further review of certain associated Department requirements and capabilities.”
It goes on:
“That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, CCR, consistent with the applicable legal requirements, necessary stakeholder engagement, and any applicable changes to the Foreign Affairs Manual and other requirements.”
The document reveals the recommendations were approved on June 11th 2021.
Speaking exclusively to The National Pulse, former President Donald J. Trump blasted Biden’s irresponsible move:
“My Administration prioritized keeping Americans safe, Biden leaves them behind. Canceling this successful Trump Administration program before the withdrawal that would have helped tens of thousands Americans reach home is beyond disgraceful. Our withdrawal was conditions-based and perfect, it would have been flawlessly executed and nobody would have even known we left. The Biden execution and withdrawal is perhaps the greatest embarrassment to our Country in History, both as a military and humanitarian operation.”
In a lengthy article in Vanity Fair from May 2021, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR) – also referred to in overlap with a predecessor/partner bureau called “OpMed” is described as a “little-known team of medics and miracle workers—hidden deep within the U.S. Department of State.”
“Even before COVID reared its head, OpMed was finding ways to do all sorts of things, serving as the hidden hand behind daring and often dangerous operations to rescue Americans from peril abroad,” the article states, before going on to quote Secretary of State Tony Blinken on the importance of the program’s goals.
“The Bureau of Medical Services’ Directorate of Operation—or ‘OpMed,’ as we call it—is a lifeline for the Department of State and the American people… Though perhaps lesser known outside of the Department, it’s vital to our operations. That’s because OpMed provides the platform and personnel to save American lives around the world, especially in times of crisis. During the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic, OpMed was integral to our evacuation and repatriation of 100,000 Americans to the United States as countries began locking down their borders.”

But The National Pulse understands that career officials inside the State Department objected to the Trump-era aim of creating a Contingency and Crisis Response bureau with the express purpose of avoiding a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.
Instead, Biden’s team revoked the funding and the approval for the plan, even as the COVID-19 crisis reasserted itself, and and Afghanistan withdrawal loomed.
Vanity Fair reported in May:
“OpMed emerged from the ashes of Benghazi, where, on September 11, 2012, militants attacked the U.S. consulate, killing America’s ambassador to Libya, an information management officer, and two CIA contractors. The day’s events rocked the national security establishment and prompted years of recrimination, congressional hearings, and blue-ribbon commissions. When the dust more or less settled, several findings emerged: First, Pentagon officials had long warned their counterparts at the State Department about the “tyranny of distance” in Libya and other parts of North Africa. Second, CIA medics on the scene in Benghazi played an indispensable role in saving the lives of gravely wounded diplomatic security personnel. Finally, an interagency panel of experts concluded that, in light of the “grossly inadequate” response time to evacuate the injured from Benghazi, “State must ensure it has the capability to rapidly deploy crisis responders and evacuate […] personnel in harm’s way.”
“Responsibility for internalizing these lessons and bolstering the department’s ability to treat its own fell in no small part to William Walters, who had joined State in December 2011 in what for nine months had largely been a role in search of a mission: managing director of operational medicine. He had served with the Army’s most elite special operations unit and held the euphemistic title of deputy command surgeon for sensitive activities at the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). “They wanted a guy who understood the Pentagon but could also wear cuff links,” he said with a laugh, recalling the clash of cultures. And yet Doc Walters, as he is known in the corridors of Foggy Bottom, quickly emerged as a contrarian (in a department that values consensus) and an egalitarian (in an organization that’s been a bastion of elitism since 1789).”

A 2022 State Department Budget Justification document presented to the U.S. Congress earlier this year notes on page 22: “The Department has paused implementation of Op Med (CCR) pending a policy review.”
On August 15th, Biden’s State Department was forced to issue a humiliating statement warning U.S. citizens that the Embassy in Kabul would be unresponsive to their requests for help.
At the time of publication, Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby said the U.S. military is attempting to move 5,000 to 9,000 people to safety per day, according to the Associated Press.
The news flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claims that his government planned for “every contingency” in the war-torn country.
The National Pulse also understands no Congressional notification was sent to the United States Congress, as is required, upon the pause.
This fits in well with my schizo take, which is that this was planned to be a huge clusterfuck to create a plausible reason for Biden to step down and get the real payload into the white house.
 
I was concerned about the change in direction when Trump didn't sign on for another season, but it turns out the writers knew what they were doing after all. This is all really fucking funny. I'm not disappointed in the least.
 
The other half of my family is from there... Let's just say they didn't stick around to find out if Stalin would be merciful. (lol)

I wish Karjala (Karelia) split off in the 90s with the other Baltic states. It's mostly populated with Russians that colonized after ww2. It's really dilapidated.
Yeah it’s a shame that Karelia is largely rundown. Petrozavodsk/Petroskoi, the capital, is quite a pretty lakeside city however and just needs some TLC. Vyborg, which is technically in Leningrad Oblast but was a Finnish settlement until after WWII has really struggled though and parts of it are in outright shambles.
 
You think you do but then you end up like the opposition in venezuela living mostly naked in a 1 by 1 meter concrete cell, shitting on a hole and not seeing daylight in years, freezing in winter and baking your ass during summer, no bed and no furniture, sleeping on the floor, whatever sludge is your food being tossed at you through a hole in the door

And that's without counting the torture, and before you think its shit only commies do I remind you most of the venezuelan COIN methods come from old CIA training, so you know your spooks can do it too, and given how woke spooks are now they are dying to try these things on your "insurrectionist" ass
So you kill yourself. Bite a hole in your wrist, smash your skull into the floor. Or just don't let them take you alive in the first place if we're going to that level of theoretical events.

No one can touch you if you're dead (yet).
 
Who knew letting your army be comprised of illiterate goat herders was a bad idea. Afghanistan was given the American military model despite the fact that only works in Western countries.

All because Dems are optics cucks.

Say what you can about Trump but one thing he was right on was pulling out of that region. The amount of seethe he got and still gets over it is telling.

The Taliban would have been defeated had the Merge not happened.

And people wonder why the majority of Afghans hated us. America learned nothing from Reza Shah's reform policy.
Ironically enough Irans reform policy somewhat worked my mom who used to live in bandar Abbas would tell us that it was the Tehran's fault since in bandar Abbas most people actually liked the reforms ( and if the photos are anything to go by ) then yeah the problem was : they barely gave a shit about the poor and 2 : being the party that Iran held for the elite that was at one point considered the most expensive party in the world these two pretty much contributed to the 79 revolution there's also the commie's that collaborated with the ayatollah ( you can guess what happened to the commies after the revolution ) that and some of the boomers I know are quite reminiscence of 70s Iran also forgot to mention that Tehranians are despised in Iran for their involvement in the revolution
 
OK grammar Nazis get a room

t. grammar Sonderkommando
Grammatik macht frei

Just a reminder that in 2007 the USAF had a Nuclear incident where a B-52 flew nukes from Minot to Barksdale. A big nono that got the Sec of the Air Force and USAF Chief of Staff fired, along with numerous high ranking officials disciplined.

DEFSEC Austin and Gen Milley left THOUSANDS of American citizens, along with other nations citizens relying on the US, behind in Afghanistan. So shouldn't these two chucklefucks be fired also due to incompetence?
I read up on that and it was certainly a pucker moment worthy of the sweeping actions that took place. The B-52 in question had six AGM-129s on board with real warheads. The entire 5th Bomb Wing lost its certification to handle nuclear weapons (i.e. the ability to do their mission) for a while after that cock up. For reference, the typical Air Force wing is about 1000 personnel strong.

SecDef and Gen Millet should seriously consider resignation for this jumbo fuck up. It isn't seemingly comparable to a bunch of complacent ammo/weapons troops neglectfully loading six tactical nuclear missiles onto a B-52 but there are similarities. Both situations needlessly put the lives of thousands of Americans at risk. Both could have easily been prevented if people just followed their orders/procedures. Both are collosal embarrassments.

The main difference between the two has been the response so far. Big Air Force shat itself when it caught wind that real nukes were tactical ferried over the US by accident and started ripping everthing apart to find the rot and cut it out. The Biden admin has done everything in their power to try and shift blame away from leadership. SecDef and Chair JCS are deflecting again about this being unforseen. No deep dive into why the fuck up happened, just a non-committal "oh no that sucks, not my fault".
Nobody wants to own up to the fact that thousands of Americans are still there, that we've sent over more(!) soldiers to facilitate a withdrawal/evacuation, that 20 years of blood and treasure amounted to fuck all except funny Taliban bumper car videos, or that all of it was caused by those in power sitting around and letting the deadline expire.
It was handled the same way that high schoolers handle essays: do fuck all until 11:45PM and frantically scramble to turn in a C- paper at 8:00AM the next day. Beyond pathetic.

By all metrics heads should roll for this impromptu reenactment of Saigon but we shall see. My bet is that no one will get anything other than bad press over this. Though Biden may face a convenient 25A over it.
 
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