Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

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The bugmen have no demonstrable competence at warfighting, especially over a prolonged period. They are good at parade marching and pushing around blacks, but China hasn't been bloodied up since the late 1970s (and the Vietnamese sent them packing).

Did you actually look at the Sino-Vietnamese war? Because the Slopes didn't send the Chinks packing, the Chinks decided they had made their point and went home. The only reason Vietnam didn't get sacktapped harder, or permanently, was because USSR-Senpai was protecting them.

Its a pretty ironic situation where the Chinese wanted to punish the Vietnamese, but as Sino-Russian relations were near their nadir, the Chinese had to make assurances to the Russians they didn't have long-term plans. So Vietnam commies survived getting their shit pushed in by not only the US but also China because politicians held back their armies to not anger the Soviets.

Of course Muslims not wanting to take Muslims in. What a surprise.

They don't want to take in Afghans. Again, the entire nation is known for its boyfucking.

The agreement not to attack US forces by the Taliban meant that we could run down the clock on the campaign season and buy the central government maybe an extra month of life by continuing occupying strategic bases in the country.

That is a fair point; try to get the central government to survive what's traditionally the most violent month, and maybe they find a stable border with the Taliban. It didn't work that way, but makes sense.

Everything else you said that wasn't laying out the force disposition was cringy Biden simping.
The Biden Administration fucked around and found out.
 
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This is normal operating proceedure for getting a goverment flight out of a country. If you get stuck in a country and ask the embassy to help you get out, they have you sign an agreement you pay for airfare.
 
Well they can always try

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the question is why are the media turning on biden like this? is the goal to get him to resign so kween kamala can step up and take the throne?
Has Kamala even been seen in the past few days? What makes you think she's gonna step up to this nightmare?

She'll still receive praise regardless, don't get me wrong. When she and Biden banned people from coming from India to the US due to COVID, her supporters just ignored that whole thing instead of condemn her, and instead bring it upon themselves to help Indians. When this Afghan clusterfuck happened, instead of condemning her for her actions, they ignored it and opt to bring in their own planes (supposedly) to help the Afghans.

Regardless, this is only proof that she'll coward out of disasters like this and is not really fit to be a president.
 
I wonder what will happen when it dawns on certain people that the US publicly had its ass handed to it in public, on live video, by medieval goatfuckers; that it is finished as a superpower and is much in the position the USSR found itself after the fall of its Afghanistan excursion? That the US head of state and second in line to the presidency are cowering under their desks and the President makes speeches that even banana republic strongmen laugh at?

At this point only the military can remove these retards and secure the traitorous fuckwits in Congress along with their armies of DC bureaucrats and immediately hold free and fair elections.

But I doubt anything of the sort will happen.
 
Did you actually look at the Sino-Vietnamese war? Because the Slopes didn't send the Chinks packing, the Chinks decided they had made their point and went home. The only reason Vietnam didn't get sacktapped harder, or permanently, was because USSR-Senpai was protecting them.

Its a pretty ironic situation where the Chinese wanted to punish the Vietnamese, but as Sino-Russian relations were near their nadir, the Chinese had to make assurances to the Russians they didn't have long-term plans. So Vietnam commies survived getting their shit pushed in by not only the US but also China because politicians held back their armies to not anger the Soviets.


That is a fair point; try to get the central government to survive what's traditionally the most violent month, and maybe they find a stable border with the Taliban. It didn't work that way, but makes sense.

Everything else you said that wasn't laying out the force disposition was cringy Biden simping.
The Biden Administration fucked around and found out.
The Vietnamese took a beating and also their pound of flesh from the Chinese. The Chinese military of the time was not in a good state and took heavy casualties for what they actually did to the point it made the Chinese very, very nervous about a future fight with the Soviets with their current military. Sure, they weren’t operating with their air force, but they didn’t exactly do well either. The Sino-Vietnamese war was a bit embarrassing for both sides. It cost quite a bit for a punitive expedition, and the Chinese didn’t force the Vietnamese to abandon their nation building in Cambodia, really a big part of the Chinese hopes with the whole thing. Vietnam didn’t get the stomp they were hoping for and had to cede some territory. It’s honestly a draw.

Delaying the withdrawal was both a good idea and a risky one. I don’t think any withdrawal was going to be smooth from Afghanistan. If the ANA didn’t fight for Kabul now, they wouldn’t have fought for it then. There were and are lots of mistakes made with this whole process, which compound on mistakes made months, years, and decades previously. It’s a massive convoluted mess of a conflict and I don’t think that Afghanistan will be peaceful any time soon. If that comes out as simping for Biden, fine. I don’t feel any one mistake in any of this can be pointed at as the worst fuck up of all time in Afghanistan. There’s so many moving parts in all of this that it’ll take time before any objective take on much of this can be done. Opinions are opinions.
 
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Only he can save Afghanistan now.
For those who don't know whom he is, he is Abdul Rashid Dostrum, a fucking hardass warlord who have been fighting the talibans since the 90s and was a key commander of the Northern Alliance.
Heard rumors that he was among the new one, but so far, it is not confirm
you've gotta remember that the afghani military forces are kinda crap so this might theoretically not do much
 
Delaying the withdrawal was both a good idea and a risky one. I don’t think any withdrawal was going to be smooth from Afghanistan. If the ANA didn’t fight for Kabul now, they wouldn’t have fought for it then. There were and are lots of mistakes made with this whole process, which compound on mistakes made months, years, and decades previously. It’s a massive convoluted mess of a conflict and I don’t think that Afghanistan will be peaceful any time soon. If that comes out as simping for Biden, fine. I don’t feel any one mistake in any of this can be pointed at as the worst fuck up of all time in Afghanistan. There’s so many moving parts in all of this that it’ll take time before any objective take on much of this can be done. Opinions are opinions.
Ok please explain in detail how a delayed withdrawal that we are currently witnessing would be "A good idea" than one that is planned out and orderly that could be executed over months?
 
I was on a PSD team providing security for the command group of a major division in the army. I was lucky enough to sit in on a shura between an ANA commander and one of our generals. Our general was trying to bring up concerns about a mountain range near a fob where the IDF was originating from. The ANA commander looks at the TV on in the corner points to it and says "Looney Toons" and dismisses any concerns we had. Our general continues to push about the rockets getting fired off from that mountain and the ANA commander again points to the TV but this time says "bugs bunny".

I got a nice goat stew, free red bulls and a dope prayer rug from the ANA commander and got to see his cool mansion but came out of that meeting thinking that Afghanistan was fucked.
 
Ok please explain in detail how a delayed withdrawal that we are currently witnessing would be "A good idea" than one that is planned out and orderly that could be executed over months?
I don't think he understands the part about getting civilians and non-essential staff out first, burning those multi-billion contractor payment receipts and glowing paperwork and finally boarding a plane to get the hell out of Dodge.

I mean I simplified it but it really is simple.
 
I was on a PSD team providing security for the command group of a major division in the army. I was lucky enough to sit in on a shura between an ANA commander and one of our generals. Our general was trying to bring up concerns about a mountain range near a fob where the IDF was originating from. The ANA commander looks at the TV on in the corner points to it and says "Looney Toons" and dismisses any concerns we had. Our general continues to push about the rockets getting fired off from that mountain and the ANA commander again points to the TV but this time says "bugs bunny".

I got a nice goat stew, free red bulls and a dope prayer rug from the ANA commander and got to see his cool mansion but came out of that meeting thinking that Afghanistan was fucked.
and that's the fucking issue with almost every official military in the middle east. too much corruption, you only get rank if you're royalty, relies entirely on outside forces in order to even function.
 
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