General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Interesting to see the Server Portal Relay not including any of the EN-Branch at all. Also slightly surprised we're not seeing anyone from EN1 do a watchalong of the EN2 premiers. I figured Kiara would be all over that. Or Watson, but she's on vacation now. Nothing I've heard at least.

Also, side note. If there is any justice in this world, please let one of the EN2 girls have a voice on par with Miyuki Sawashiro or Ange Katrina. Gimme dem deep husky tones yo.
 
On the subject of Artia, I liked her as a shitposter and gremlin. I still like that part of her even if I hate that she turned on Haachama and Coco. I don't really see anything wrong with that.

Not thirstposting but I'd also take the chance, should I ever get it, to tame that West Taiwanese strange just to whisper in her ear "this is for Coco" before going in dry.
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Man reading these last several pages of them pretty interesting.
That Rabbit sure has a spell on the farms eh?
Also I think death of the author is a tricky thing because sure you can appreciate what the artist has done but when it comes to something like this it gets a little murky.
From what I know even without the Wolf Warrior stuff, what's her name has done some pretty shady stuff that's pretty hard to admit from their character.
Truly a wolf in sheep's clothing.
 
Yeah I'm not sure I'll place Jackie Chan in the "unwilling supporter" side.
Funny thing is, despite his massive hard-on for CCP, his sleezy act of getting caught fucking younger actress while his wife is pregnant, and him throw his own son under the bus when the later was caught with weed make the Chinese not like him either, calling him "failing at moral"
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As a Hong Kong Chinese, it's very heartening to see a fellow Hong Konger be so well-liked overseas. However, I would also just like to present some different perspectives on Jackie Chan as a person.
In general, Jackie has a far more complicated reputation here at home than he does overseas. There is no doubt that he popularized his school of physical comedy/acting, and honestly no-one else has even come close to being able to replicate it, but at the same time his personal actions and views also has earned him a fair share of disdain.
I'll be starting off with stories that are purely anecdotal and rumour-based before moving on to bigger issues, so skip a couple of paragraphs if you don't like celeb gossips.
Jackie is somewhat of an infamous sex fiend within the Hong Kong entertainment industry, quite often he has been sighted taking younger starlets into hotels from nightclubs (have personally heard stories from friends who work at clubs). His biggest scandals are probably from his numerous and quite public affairs during his wife's pregnancy, which he has gone on record to defend by saying that he was just trying to test out his best options. His irresponsibility in his love life is also why his son (known as Jaycee Chan in the west) has a different family name (that is neither his own nor the mother's), basically preventing him from being instantly recognizable as his own (illegitimate) son.
He is also known as an extremely strict parent. As in "punching your child" strict, not that it really stopped his son from being arrested in Beijing on drug charges (weed, which may or may not change your opinion of the charges depending on your views on recreational drugs). He is very cold to his child. During the above arrest instead of support he basically completely ignored Jaycee(no visit during custody, refused to appear in the trial as proof of character). Instead Jackie seemed more interested in addressing the press about how disappointed he was in him, constantly setting up press conferences to apologize for his son's actions(which, what the fuck, you don't apologize on behalf of a grown-ass 30-something adult).~~ He has also gone on public record to say that he will not be leaving Jaycee anything after he dies. Personally I think expecting your child to make his own fortune is one thing, but publicly saying that you are afraid he will just waste your money is another.~~ Basically, he constantly feels the need to establish how fair and just a person he is to the public at the expense of his own bastard child.
His biggest criticisms come from his political leanings, though. The records are out there, so feel free to google it if you are interested in further reading. He consistently acts as one of the more prolific mouthpieces for the Chinese Communist Party (NOT China, see below). His statements are always incredibly inflammatory ("People's freedom should be restricted" etc.), poorly-supported, very heavily propagandized, and not to mention reductionist and biased. There is no logical or reason at play in most of his political rants. His entire strategy towards commenting on any political issue is basically "I'm famous so fuck you. Hail the Party."
As a result of these things his image has really gradually transformed into something of a punchline in local communities. The many memes that you might see of him when visiting Chinese websites are mostly done in derision.
Some of the posters in this thread have already pointed out that it's hard for someone to turn against your countrymen and all that, but I would like to note that his support isn't for China and its people, but for the oppressive single-party government regime that actively suppresses humanitarian efforts or democratic processes that attempt to return political power to the people by creating arbitrary laws to imprison human rights lawyers, or hold people indefinitely with trial (there is literally a law against "causing trouble and picking quarrels", which is so vague and poorly-defined that it allows the arrest of basically anyone for anything and yes, it pretty much is exclusively used to target political activists).
He is also fiercely anti-American, which can come off as hypocritical considering that he made a considerable part of his fortune in America.
I would like to stress that I'm not trying to discredit his cinematic achievements. That is a part of his life that is completely unrelated to who is he outside of the screen, and in it he is definitely an unparalleled legend who deserves the respect for being such.
But at the same time, he is also a global, public figure who personally comes across as being very callous about the consequences of his actions and words. And that, I think, is worrying. He basically acts like he can do and say whatever he wants, for the pleasure of his own benefits, regardless of who and how many it hurts. It's how a lot of people behave, but as a public figure his ethics should be placed under more scrutiny.
EDIT: Crossed out some of the stuff that have been disproven by sources in the thread. I apparently got a couple of things mistake about Jaycee or had outdated info. Thanks! This has sort of exploded, well beyond my expectation. Thank you for everyone who has responded, and thank you for those of you praising my English! I'm flattered, and it's been a pleasure.
I'm sorry to hear that I've ruined Jackie for some people, as that's not my intention at all. He has left a cinematic legacy behind him and that should be appreciated. But I also felt uncomfortable seeing all of the unqualified praises for how amazing he is, so I wanted to present another perspective.
Even if you disagree with me I don't mind. All that I ask is that you do your own research and make up your own mind instead of relying on knee-jerk reflexes. I've tried to reply where I can to curiosities and disagreements, but there's only so much I can handle. Plus, I'm only one Hong Konger, speaking from what I observe and trying to be objective about it, so I would be very happy if no-one just takes my word for it and try to learn more about this little city of ours.

I said all this and I'll still say that the work he done at his prime are damn good, so Pippa saying that she like Artia for her entertainment value despite her pathetic and failed attempt at Wolf Warrior is nothing worth holding against the rabbit.
I am gonna save this for personal reasons
You're all missing what's truly important in the world, Mama Mio's birthday stream.

Edit: I don't know what they're putting in the Hololive office water, but Mio just did a song that's as insane as Polka new original. Song starts are 40:50mins

The song is also going to be released seperately. It's the gift that keeps on giving, it never ends.

And if that wasn't enough Mio has a new original coming out in a few minutes.
For me, the only Mama the holomems need (if you're gonna discount the rrat about Aki being a real mom though)
So its gonna be a JP-ID relay huh, I wonder if EN will do something next

Just gonna share some clips that gave me some chuckles
Accurate depictions
Holorodents coming soon? Ogey

edit: Now Moona is learning Russian. Moonrussian
 
Man reading these last several pages of them pretty interesting.
That Rabbit sure has a spell on the farms eh?
Also I think death of the author is a tricky thing because sure you can appreciate what the artist has done but when it comes to something like this it gets a little murky.
From what I know even without the Wolf Warrior stuff, what's her name has done some pretty shady stuff that's pretty hard to admit from their character.
Truly a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Artia was not a funny troll, she was genuinely a malicious one. She's basically the epitome of what a lot of people who dislike Amelia think she is. For example the "She 's going to derail or get people killed during the TTRPG because she's trolling." ideology. Ame knows that it's Calli's passion project and how much effort she puts into it and the last thing she'd do is ruin it for her. Artia is the type of person that would, "for a laugh".

Sadly most of her content is nuked, and very little is available on YouTube. But I still remember a Minecraft collab that CN did where they spent hours building some genuine impressive buildings, for Artia to blow them up with TNT for a joke. I'm fairly sure she was even disliked in her own gen.
 
Also slightly surprised we're not seeing anyone from EN1 do a watchalong of the EN2 premiers. I figured Kiara would be all over that. Or Watson, but she's on vacation now. Nothing I've heard at least.
Not really, debutes not getting overlapped is pretty basic etiquette inside of Hololive.
And I vaguely remember Kiara being asked to do a watchalong of Ame's outfit reveal because she was playing Minecraft beforehand but she said that she doesn't want to do that because the full attention should be on the event stream.
 
SodaFunk is streaming again, but I ain't watching that shit. I don't think there will be something interesting happening anyway.
Still amazed how he is managing to finesse simps into donating with how mind numbingly boring the VA is and Jesus Christ the stream is just looking at Twitter videos. Smh you know people are bored when you see 2.1k viewers watching this shit.
 
I am gonna save this for personal reasons

For me, the only Mama the holomems need (if you're gonna discount the rrat about Aki being a real mom though)

So its gonna be a JP-ID relay huh, I wonder if EN will do something next

Just gonna share some clips that gave me some chuckles
Accurate depictions
Holorodents coming soon? Ogey

edit: Now Moona is learning Russian. Moonrussian
There's a rrat that Aki is a irl mom? Tell me more.
 
On the subject of Artia, I liked her as a shitposter and gremlin. I still like that part of her even if I hate that she turned on Haachama and Coco. I don't really see anything wrong with that.

Not thirstposting but I'd also take the chance, should I ever get it, to tame that West Taiwanese strange just to whisper in her ear "this is for Coco" before going in dry.
There's nothing wrong with liking people style but the culture itself is dictating that. Sure sleep yourself to the top is common under the table tactic plus West Taiwan is short on female so those Wumao officials can settle for fucking VChuuba as bragging right since their station too low to get some fashion model tiers girls. Artia's horrible personality and wolf warrior (eunuch with fake big dick) antics is just not click. Not to mention, she burnt all the bridges so her fall will be an interesting case study in the future for sure. Sad that Yogiri (the Taiwan Suisei) had to went down because of cunts with horrible personalities like Artia, Roselyn, Doris and Civia.
For me, the only Mama the holomems need (if you're gonna discount the rrat about Aki being a real mom though)

I thought there's a rrat about Korone being a single mom in her 30s (her simps are literally help paying for her child support)
 
I decided to watch Uto's POV today as Astel, Kurumi, or Towa aren't streaming (or at least weren't from the start and I haven't checked).

Her team coach is Tempplex, a middle-eastern Pro player who has a translator with him. He's played with Chihiro before and they get along, but he's also coming off a lot more aggressive with his coaching than any other coach I've watched. He's pretty snappy and not at all tactful.

He enters the call after they die or the round ends, and is supposed to offer tips, but it mostly just amounts to 'you should have simply done X, Y, and Z that's all', but the problem is that APEX is so situational that those kind of tips will probably be redundant in the next round and forgotten about when next they are in that situation. Teaching people to improve their game sense to such a minute degree isn't really feasible.

He's not a bad guy or anything; he has played with V-Tubers before and makes an effort to speak in the little Japanese he knows during gameplay, but it's a good job a translator is filtering out his tone and directness because he has a way of talking that Japanese people would probably choose to avoid.
 
Still amazed how he is managing to finesse simps into donating with how mind numbingly boring the VA is and Jesus Christ the stream is just looking at Twitter videos. Smh you know people are bored when you see 2.1k viewers watching this shit.
Damn, just give those views to Choco-sen or other holomems who are currently streaming
There's a rrat that Aki is a irl mom? Tell me more.
The rrat is that apparently in 2017, Aki's roommate tweeted in moonrunes about missing a child/baby (translation not accurate) and that during this Ark collab, Miko asked if Aki is/was a mom in an Ark pregnancy delivery of some sort, with Aki answering "yeah" followed by a momentary awkward silence. For references, just read through this
I decided to watch Uto's POV today as Astel, Kurumi, or Towa aren't streaming (or at least weren't from the start and I haven't checked).
Astel and Choco-sen are streaming as of this post
 
So its gonna be a JP-ID relay huh, I wonder if EN will do something next

edit: Now Moona is learning Russian. Moonrussian
Moona stated that the relay is just setup and decoration of the JP side of the portal. Sounded like cover is still exploring the best way to link the servers. The ID server will probably be linked sometime after it has been up and running for a while.

Mana Renewal has been modding Moona's channel actively for the last few weeks, so that is probably what prompted this Russian stream.
 
Apparently Nene is doing a Apex challenge stream, she needs to get 1500 damage in a single game, I haven't watched her play Apex before so I have no idea how long or if she can do it. She's been streaming for 1:22hrs so far. She did manage 1000 damage the last game.

I'm guessing the she's adding another copy of herself on screen for every game she doesn't succeed. What ever it is, it's the usual weird cute Nene.
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Stream:
 
Damn, just give those views to Choco-sen or other holomems who are currently streaming

The rrat is that apparently in 2017, Aki's roommate tweeted in moonrunes about missing a child/baby (translation not accurate) and that during this Ark collab, Miko asked if Aki is/was a mom in an Ark pregnancy delivery of some sort, with Aki answering "yeah" followed by a momentary awkward silence. For references, just read through this

Astel and Choco-sen are streaming as of this post
That sounds like she had to give it up. How old is Aki supposed to be irl?
 
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