Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

That massive chin/tiny mouth combination in that screenshot is just perfect. Is that really the face you want to pull as a ~professional actor and woman~, Olly?

Screen Shot 2021-08-20 at 19.48.06.png
playng a 36 year old recent transitioned version of this lad.
wounding for Ollies age vanity when he made a big fuss about someone thinking he was 26 (as opposed to 28) when he was trying to deflect from them saying it wasnt toohoddyto be his age on like 100k p/a.
"first off, for a start thankyou for thinking im that young babes!"
I wonder if being flattered someone thought you were two years younger means you're gutted you get cast as mid/late 30s?
likely not as the whole thing was just him deflecting attention form the substance of thier post, but he is a narc so you never know.

@The Emperor Skeksis just looking again at the screenshot in the room, you look at all the other actors- body acting, face, positioning, engaged with the performer whose in focus- then theres olly, just sitting there, as if he's the focus, and also just like- failing to convey anything of what is supposed to be happening, as compared to the other three actors. shitheel.
 
Last edited:
View attachment 2463515
View attachment 2463516
https://archive.vn/fpLlN

View attachment 2463521
View attachment 2463525
https://archive.vn/peVj1
Gee whiz, imagine an entire audiobook read in a strained tranny falsetto. Also, he seems to be getting more ambitious with the shooping, as that is absolutely not what his face looks like irl
Yes. Softened the chin, shaved off piece of the jaw, made the eyes bigger (like way bigger), broader mouth with fuller lips. Also way softened out the nose (+ angle). Guess it's true what they say: all narcs are liars.



Also, wtf kind of a name is Iona?
 
Gee whiz, imagine an entire audiobook read in a strained tranny falsetto. Also, he seems to be getting more ambitious with the shooping, as that is absolutely not what his face looks like irl
checked his twitter, its him talking about how he can go between his 'real' voice and his man voice, from 'years of practice of it'. no bitch, its your natural voice lmao.
-says he's basically double the voice actor because of it. maybe if his woman voice was any good.

some commenting are like 'ugh i coudlnt do that, would be weird and painful and make me dysphoric'
yeah, it probably would if you were genuine.

The level of facetune: he looks 15 years older in real life...well, heavily made up, on telly...god knows IRL.
To the extent, actually that i didnt realise it was him fully when he first popped up on the screen until he started talking- odd voice, jarringly lower acting quality than rest of ensemble, was when I clocked, but I still had to check credits..
Considering how much of his mug i've seen on here, that's actually mental.

Is every one just face tuning now? was I missing a trick on the old tinder profile pics?

Brightening/evening your skin tone, maybe...but significantly changing the structure of your skull...at the end of the day you've got to accept who you are.

Im not sure if its Tubes narcissistic meglomania, or internet brainworms to blame for the idea that you can just weld reality to your personal preference..kind of applies to troonery in general, now?
i guess the thing thats worse about this new era of it, which he's appointed himself to the head of, is everyone else has to join in with backing it up and applauding it, when its just one person's whim on the breeze.

You can say no ones forcing you to look, but the fucker is begging people to first nominate him then vote him in for nationally visible
(ventures like the lgbt awards, getting up in our faces about this imagined bullshit on the news RE trans healthcare- literally, olly, its waiting lists,-which YOU could actionably help more than anyone by using your own abundant coin, and buying the surgery to free up a spot*)
- the role on the bbc programe was fine because he was there as what he is- a brand new tran.

When he gets sick of it and starts huffing for real roles, he's either gonna be gutted or we're gonna have our intelligence insulted more regualrly.

*Why doesnt he do an Hbomber style chartity thing - or even donate some of his now massive earnings, to a fund to get private care? seeing as its elective, and according to the comments on that video, he inspired multiple people to come out, with the fucking ridiculous way he did it. Put your hand in your fucking pocket. I'll wait on that one happening..
 
Last edited:
checked his twitter, its him talking about how he can go between his 'real' voice and his man voice, from 'years of practice of it'. no bitch, its your natural voice lmao.
-says he's basically double the voice actor because of it. maybe if his woman voice was any good.

some commenting are like 'ugh i coudlnt do that, would be weird and painful and make me dysphoric'
yeah, it probably would if you were genuine.

The level of facetune: he looks 15 years older in real life...well, heavily made up, on telly...god knows IRL.
To the extent, actually that i didnt realise it was him fully when he first popped up on the screen until he started talking- odd voice, jarringly lower acting quality than rest of ensemble, was when I clocked, but I still had to check credits..
Considering how much of his mug i've seen on here, that's actually mental.

Is every one just face tuning now? was I missing a trick on the old tinder profile pics?

Brightening/evening your skin tone, maybe...but significantly changing the structure of your skull...at the end of the day you've got to accept who you are.

Im not sure if its Tubes narcissistic meglomania, or internet brainworms to blame for the idea that you can just weld reality to your personal preference..kind of applies to troonery in general, now?
i guess the thing thats worse about this new era of it, which he's appointed himself to the head of, is everyone else has to join in with backing it up and applauding it, when its just one person's whim on the breeze.

You can say no ones forcing you to look, but the fucker is begging people to first nominate him then vote him in for nationally visible
(ventures like the lgbt awards, getting up in our faces about this imagined bullshit on the news RE trans healthcare- literally, olly, its waiting lists,-which YOU could actionably help more than anyone by using your own abundant coin, and buying the surgery to free up a spot*)
- the role on the bbc programe was fine because he was there as what he is- a brand new tran.

When he gets sick of it and starts huffing for real roles, he's either gonna be gutted or we're gonna have our intelligence insulted more regualrly.

*Why doesnt he do an Hbomber style chartity thing - or even donate some of his now massive earnings, to a fund to get private care? seeing as its elective, and according to the comments on that video, he inspired multiple people to come out, with the fucking ridiculous way he did it. Put your hand in your fucking pocket. I'll wait on that one happening..

He always had a real hard time disguising how shallow he is. And I don't mean nº of books read, but that smugness that comes from always change from personality to personality in order to look and make people think something of him. He always - doesn't matter what he is doing, acting or on youtube or engaging to people - seems to be playing a part.

He always talks as if he is being instructed on a wire about how to make people think what he wants them to think - think the RIGHT thing about him. How marvelous, brilliant, sensitive and moral he is.

He doesn't seem to be able to truly believe in something or feel something or share something and put some skin in the game for being who he really is. In fact, what's worse is that this shows he doesn't really learn anything: someone able to learn and who really cares about something is not so PLAIN - he is not able to bring one single question about his worldview. Same way, he doesn't seem to be genuine curious about anything enough to dig deep and read something. Anything. It's a collage of references taken on twitter - as bringing Audre Lord to talk about himself as a martir - embelished in smug jokes he kinda demands the audience to read, and after contrapoints, covered in bad clothes and make-up.

I don't know much about that but someone said that this emptiness and this forceful image is a mark of narcissism, I quoted you in case you know more about this as a condition or can feel the same coming from him .

Besides that, his behavior towards Points is leaving kiwi and chans. This one is pretty direct:

This one is not about tea: these conservative guys are not very deep (seem astonished with themeslves they can read books - Kiwifarms taugh me much more about serious topics), but make some points at the begining about PT and Contrapoints, but also about Blaire - who can be the most fetishistic of them, such is the effort to look like a male porn phantasy of a woman.


Edit to archive the first one: soon there will be a meltdown about it and it will be flagged
 

Attachments

  • CONTRAPOINTS VS. PHILOSOPHY TUBE- Frozen parody song- (Natalie Wynn vs Abigail Thorn).mp4
    7.5 MB
Last edited:
@okwhyamidoingthis its sheer glibness, always which is a narcissistic trait. there's nothing beneath.
I wouldnt even call it THAT calculating- its just an animal/bacterias quest to survive and flourish, and in the best way possible.
He gives it all away, like his blatant showing off and begging for recognition and praise on twitter, so he isnt as calculating as it takes to be a real clever one- his training from going to good schools has stood him in useful stead.

when you see videos, old or new, when he's talking answering or asking questions, when he doesn't have a script to follow and isn't in control of all directions of information flow, it becomes really obvious compared to his videos where you could think, okay, he's playing a smug part for laughs. this actually carried him pretty far til the transition where it became creepier as it was evident that he wanst just gettng off on himself, but now on himself as a version of a woman which was distrubing in its wrongness and creepiness.
Uncanniness always spooks people, and its not that oh he nearly looks liek a woman, thats so uncanny!
its, wow, his idea of what a woman is is completely fucked, what does he see them as?
He will lay his recent up tick in haters at the door of transphobia, but really its that- and the fact that his transness is an obvious grift, which is an insult to both women and trans people.

seeing as i've gone full a-log, here's a quick edit of that awful glamour shot, to make him try and look a bit more human female.
literally all i did was circle the eyes and mouth and nose, and just like, stretch them out lmao its incredible that it makes him look more normal.
i also tried to fix the hairline but wasnt about to spend more than one minute on it and i havent used an editor for ages so its a bit fucked up- his hairline is fucking terrible, for a woman anyway,
i didnt even fucing bother with that jaw, but with the rest of the features sized up considerably, it only looks a bit massive.
enjoy.
fr tho i made his facial features so much bigger its pretty crazy- he must had had it editied like fuck to get it the weird proportions it was- guess thats a ide effect of ironing your head out?
maybe he thought a tiny mouth would look more feminine?
Screen Shot 2021-08-21 at 03.23.57.png

lmao its pretty funy his resting state is as obigol
 
Last edited:
Maybe it was a deliberate joke name ( if the character was “Iona Johnson” that would have been puerile but kinda funny )
maybe there was foreshadowing like his original name was Ian Ablokeanymore
(i dont think that will work if you're reading it in an american accent).....wonder how many of ollies haters are from uk V us V miscellaneous?
 
TUBE POWAAAAAAHHHH, luvs! <3

View attachment 2455057
I honestly get the impression that Ollie is the sort of person who mostly Ubers everywhere instead of using the tube.
Toob playing a trans role meant for laughs is cosmic perfection. Most trans actors would want a role that’s heartbreaking and challenging, not an “oops a man in a dress” joke that could have been written in 1993.

Congratulations Olly, you’re a C-tier Mrs. Doubtfire :tomgirl:
That's what I was thinking - Olly is literally a punchline in that scene. Although I suppose it's partially supportive in that the idea is that nobody else recognises him.

Anyway I had my own go at shopping the glamour shot.
olli - Copy.jpg

(No, this would be impossible with FFS). Kinda reminds me of Kate Bush, possibly in part because of the weirdly 80s styling. Although when compared to the original it freaks me out because it makes the original look malformed.
olll - Copy.gif


I'll say this, there was at least a professional photographer and retoucher involved in that photoshoot, as there's still skin texture (it's just very well lit and subtly retouched instead of blurred to oblivion).
 
I honestly get the impression that Ollie is the sort of person who mostly Ubers everywhere instead of using the tube.

That's what I was thinking - Olly is literally a punchline in that scene. Although I suppose it's partially supportive in that the idea is that nobody else recognises him.

Anyway I had my own go at shopping the glamour shot.
View attachment 2466984
(No, this would be impossible with FFS). Kinda reminds me of Kate Bush, possibly in part because of the weirdly 80s styling. Although when compared to the original it freaks me out because it makes the original look malformed.
View attachment 2466998

I'll say this, there was at least a professional photographer and retoucher involved in that photoshoot, as there's still skin texture (it's just very well lit and subtly retouched instead of blurred to oblivion).
yeah i as blown away when i did my quick one, just how much i had to enlarge his features to make it resemble a female face- out of practice just using the clone tool to try and sort the hairline, i'd fuck up and there would be a crazy wrong piece, then id get rid of a massive section of hair on the forehead and it would look so much worse and weirder- lmao, the closer it went to being the actual image.
I also realised, while trying to shift his front parting down- he's going bald, at the front.

i didnt bother with the expansive wasteland of jaw because there was just so much of it, it looked like t was gonna be too much time compared to what i was willing. Fucking VAST.

it looks like the photographer has done something weird with the aspect or used an odd lense- because his face literally isnt that small -as we cal see on his tv appearance. they've tried to flatten him and he's just ended up looking like a tiny island of features.

if i could have been bothered i'd have warped the eyes so they wee wrapping around his eyes rather than just sitting on like a pair of glasses when i sized them up..His nose would still be far too big if the other elements were changed, like some extensive butcherous FFS.. - he's just fundamentally got too big a frame for this to work, so they've done what they could just made it look weird in another way.

but there's some heavy fuckery afoot.
Love to see the size of the lense the camera used, lol .
 
yeah i as blown away when i did my quick one, just how much i had to enlarge his features to make it resemble a female face- out of practice just using the clone tool to try and sort the hairline, i'd fuck up and there would be a crazy wrong piece, then id get rid of a massive section of hair on the forehead and it would look so much worse and weirder- lmao, the closer it went to being the actual image.
I also realised, while trying to shift his front parting down- he's going bald, at the front.

i didnt bother with the expansive wasteland of jaw because there was just so much of it, it looked like t was gonna be too much time compared to what i was willing. Fucking VAST.

it looks like the photographer has done something weird with the aspect or used an odd lense- because his face literally isnt that small -as we cal see on his tv appearance. they've tried to flatten him and he's just ended up looking like a tiny island of features.

if i could have been bothered i'd have warped the eyes so they wee wrapping around his eyes rather than just sitting on like a pair of glasses when i sized them up..His nose would still be far too big if the other elements were changed, like some extensive butcherous FFS.. - he's just fundamentally got too big a frame for this to work, so they've done what they could just made it look weird in another way.

but there's some heavy fuckery afoot.
Love to see the size of the lense the camera used, lol .
Yeah I think it has to be a telephoto lens or something. A longer focal length is generally considered more flattering for portait photography
97d6cb27f73a449d93865a8f3837c12c.jpg

because it does the opposite of a fish-eye. Perhaps the photographer wanted to minimise the size of Ollie's nose or something but accidentally made a moon face
 
Oh god, usually for a guy, broad shoulders are sort of a desireble trait because it can somewhat improove a look of your general bodytype, but holy shit how it screws you over when you suddenly decide to go full mtf.
Olly needs half of it's body to be broken down and manually reshaped to pass in that department.
 
I honestly get the impression that Ollie is the sort of person who mostly Ubers everywhere instead of using the tube.

That's what I was thinking - Olly is literally a punchline in that scene. Although I suppose it's partially supportive in that the idea is that nobody else recognises him.

Anyway I had my own go at shopping the glamour shot.
View attachment 2466984
(No, this would be impossible with FFS). Kinda reminds me of Kate Bush, possibly in part because of the weirdly 80s styling. Although when compared to the original it freaks me out because it makes the original look malformed.
View attachment 2466998

I'll say this, there was at least a professional photographer and retoucher involved in that photoshoot, as there's still skin texture (it's just very well lit and subtly retouched instead of blurred to oblivion).
You're really good at that... You know I think you stumbled upon a very lucrative business...
 
Back