Manosphere Mystery Man - SlutHate dumbass who couldn't leave well enough alone

[MysteryMan]

If he didn't offer, probably not.

I find quite a lot of people attractive, dude. I don't immediately think about how it would feel if we were fucking. Again, I don't care.

What if he did offer? I feel like most of the time if a girl "isn't that type of girl" then she's "not the type of girl" for THAT guy. Channing Tatum walks in and starts flirting with her, she'll be in his bed in minutes, she's very unlikely to put up the same sort of resistance. All women want to make out that they are "different". Very, very, very, very rarely is that the case.

If I talk to a girl and flirt with her, if she's really into me her emotions take over. What a girl says and what a girl does are two very different things. Most guys will have heard a girl tell them "I'm not going home with you tonight" etc. or if they are meeting up for a date they might try to slip something like that in before the date. Few hours later and she's in your bed. That's a common thing.

If a girl doesn't sleep with me on a first date or the night I meet her, and she's interested in me, then I feel like I've done something wrong or failed to make the right moves. Girl I am/was seeing did not go home with me on the first date, but I know for a fact she hooked up with guys in uni without making them wait. The girl is the same, I am the difference. So it's a failing on my part.

 

[Positron]

If a girl doesn't sleep with me on a first date or the night I meet her, and she's interested in me, then I feel like I've done something wrong or failed to make the right moves. Girl I am/was seeing did not go home with me on the first date, but I know for a fact she hooked up with guys in uni without making them wait. The girl is the same, I am the difference. So it's a failing on my part.

You're just making yourself a mental wrack if you keep making this kind of comparison. The world is unfair. No one is entitled to sex on first date. Cope.

 

[MysteryMan]

You're just making yourself a mental wrack if you keep making this kind of comparison. The world is unfair. No one is entitled to sex on first date. Cope.

Dunno man... It doesn't bother me, doesn't bring me down mentally, it just drives me to figure out what I'm doing wrong (or lacking to do right) and change it. I can tell I give off boyfriend vibes to some girls by the way they treat me. Maybe I should slip in something that shows them I'm not in it for commitment, but which also doesn't suggest I'm looking at them as a slut. Being viewed or judged as a slut is one of the biggest things that stops girls from acting on their desires.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

What if he did offer? I feel like most of the time if a girl "isn't that type of girl" then she's "not the type of girl" for THAT guy. Channing Tatum walks in and starts flirting with her, she'll be in his bed in minutes, she's very unlikely to put up the same sort of resistance. All women want to make out that they are "different". Very, very, very, very rarely is that the case.

OK, lemme make myself more clear then.

If some person walks in and flirts with me and I like what I see and I'm feeling it, then yeah, I might end up sleeping with them. I do not, however, have sex on any priority list when I'm talking with new people so I'm certainly not gonna bring it up unless we're both really enjoying each other (and I'm possibly a bit drunk, I dunno). I do not go out with the express purpose of getting laid, because I do not care.

Honestly, my issue is that you make a big deal out of nothing. If you tried hard enough you could find someone you wanted to fuck, so why is it such a big deal that you have to go and have facial reconstruction and a bunch of other drastic shit? You're overcomplicating a simple issue. If you honestly think that most women are turning you down JUST because of your looks enough that you think you need plastic surgery to be appealing, please consider more sensible solutions before burning your wallet.

Because you see, when I hear about the Incels saying they need surgery to get laid, I imagine some crazy guy who thinks he needs to burn down his neighbor's house to stop the loud partying that happens at night. Sure, it might solve the problem, but there are far less drastic alternatives before you go to the most extreme solution.

 

[MysteryMan]

If you tried hard enough you could find someone you wanted to fuck, so why is it such a big deal that you have to go and have facial reconstruction and a bunch of other drastic shit? You're overcomplicating a simple issue. If you honestly think that most women are turning you down JUST because of your looks enough that you think you need plastic surgery to be appealing, please consider more sensible solutions before burning your wallet.

Because you see, when I hear about the Incels saying they need surgery to get laid, I imagine some crazy guy who thinks he needs to burn down his neighbor's house to stop the loud partying that happens at night. Sure, it might solve the problem, but there are far less drastic alternatives before you go to the most extreme solution.

I can find someone to fuck. I just have to talk to a few different girls until I find one who's interested... Unless I approach a girl who is giving me obvious cues, then it's usually easy and I don't need to meander around the club from girl to girl. But I want to increase my rate of success, the ease at which I can pick up women and also the caliber of women I'm able to pick up. Getting laid is part of the reason for this, but not the full reason.

Understand that for me, throughout my life I have been very obsessed with my physical appearance. Since 10 years old or even younger I'd look into the mirror a lot, and it got worse with age. Originally I thought I was extremely handsome (I was pretty decent). Then at 14 I began to dislike my appearance a lot. I felt self-conscious all the time, thinking people were looking at me and negatively judging me (thinking I'm ugly). I noticed that my younger brother also seems to be obsessed with his appearance, though we grew up separately, so I might even just be mentally wired to this type of behavior and mindset.

 

[BuckMatic]

Understand that for me, throughout my life I have been very obsessed with my physical appearance. Since 10 years old or even younger I'd look into the mirror a lot, and it got worse with age. Originally I thought I was extremely handsome (I was pretty decent). Then at 14 I began to dislike my appearance a lot. I felt self-conscious all the time, thinking people were looking at me and negatively judging me (thinking I'm ugly). I noticed that my younger brother also seems to be obsessed with his appearance, though we grew up separately, so I might even just be mentally wired to this type of behavior and mindset.

If it makes you unhappy maybe you should get help changing your focus. Just because you are more wired for a certain type of behaviour doesn't mean you should heedlessly indulge in it.

Edit: also that dude looks goofy and I wouldn't want to be him

 

[Rin]

What if he did offer? I feel like most of the time if a girl "isn't that type of girl" then she's "not the type of girl" for THAT guy. Channing Tatum walks in and starts flirting with her, she'll be in his bed in minutes, she's very unlikely to put up the same sort of resistance. All women want to make out that they are "different". Very, very, very, very rarely is that the case.

If I talk to a girl and flirt with her, if she's really into me her emotions take over. What a girl says and what a girl does are two very different things. Most guys will have heard a girl tell them "I'm not going home with you tonight" etc. or if they are meeting up for a date they might try to slip something like that in before the date. Few hours later and she's in your bed. That's a common thing.

If a girl doesn't sleep with me on a first date or the night I meet her, and she's interested in me, then I feel like I've done something wrong or failed to make the right moves. Girl I am/was seeing did not go home with me on the first date, but I know for a fact she hooked up with guys in uni without making them wait. The girl is the same, I am the difference. So it's a failing on my part.

You have an extremely myopic viewpoint. You've exposed yourself to a relatively limited group of people who tend to have similar traits, and then assumed that they apply to everyone. Maybe there are one or two "people" I would put out like that for... but it's not an issue because for one, they're fictional, and for two, I still probably wouldn't, because I don't have experience with that kind of thing so I'd just end up embarrassing myself. There are other people who would take offense at the very offer, because of their religious or moral beliefs. Not all girls are shallow club girls looking to hook up.

Also, this isn't related to the post I quoted, but you should stop replying seriously to baitposts. Getting riled up at something cat or someone says just makes you look like an idiot.

 

[MysteryMan]

You have an extremely myopic viewpoint. You've exposed yourself to a relatively limited group of people who tend to have similar traits, and then assumed that they apply to everyone. Maybe there are one or two "people" I would put out like that for... but it's not an issue because for one, they're fictional, and for two, I still probably wouldn't, because I don't have experience with that kind of thing so I'd just end up embarrassing myself. There are other people who would take offense at the very offer, because of their religious or moral beliefs. Not all girls are shallow club girls looking to hook up.

Also, this isn't related to the post I quoted, but you should stop replying seriously to baitposts. Getting riled up at something cat or someone says just makes you look like an idiot.

The thing is that you don't outright offer... Like I said the thought of being perceived or judged as a "slut" is one of the biggest things which holds women back from following their desires (another big one is logistics). Girls come back to my place to "see pictures of my cool skiing holiday". It's like a mutual understanding that you're not allowed to actually verbalize. She knows we're fucking, I know we're fucking, but you can't say that we're fucking (unless they are VERY turned on).

 

[Ruin]

". It's like a mutual understanding that you're not allowed to actually verbalize. She knows we're fucking, I know we're fucking, but you can't say that we're fucking (unless they are VERY turned on).

What rubbish is this? If you have a connection with someone you're absolutely allowed to say "hey wanna fuck?"

Also relevant C&H

 

[Rin]

The thing is that you don't outright offer... Like I said the thought of being perceived or judged as a "slut" is one of the biggest things which holds women back from following their desires (another big one is logistics). Girls come back to my place to "see pictures of my cool skiing holiday". It's like a mutual understanding that you're not allowed to actually verbalize. She knows we're fucking, I know we're fucking, but you can't say that we're fucking (unless they are VERY turned on).

That's not what I meant, and is completely irrelevant to the point. You're ignoring what I'm actually trying to say, which is that not all women are like women you pick up in bars, who are typically there looking for someone to go home with. There are plenty of women out there who aren't interested in that sort of thing, so don't go to bars in the first place.

Also, unless you actually ask her if she wants to get it on at some point in the procedure, your plans sounds like a good way to end up getting charged with assault by a somewhat naive skier.

 

[BuckMatic]

Some girls will drag you to go help feed the poor. I shit you not.

Edit: I don't know MM, seems like you're happy doing what you're doing and you're here to sperg about your nerd interest like any other nerd.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

Like I said the thought of being perceived or judged as a "slut" is one of the biggest things which holds women back from following their desires

Contrary to what you think no woman desires to be with you secretly or openly

 

[MysteryMan]

What rubbish is this? If you have a connection with someone you're absolutely allowed to say "hey wanna fuck?"

I haven't tried this to be fair, but I don't think it would work if you wasn't in a relationship and if she wasn't really CRAZY turned on. There are some girls in rave clubs I've fingered on the dance floor, sometimes you could do it. But for most girls I don't think it would work. They are looking for an excuse to go with the guy while maintaining the plausible deniability of "it just happened!"... Girls don't want the slut label.

That's not what I meant, and is completely irrelevant to the point. You're ignoring what I'm actually trying to say, which is that not all women are like women you pick up in bars, who are typically there looking for someone to go home with. There are plenty of women out there who aren't interested in that sort of thing, so don't go to bars in the first place.

Also, unless you actually ask her if she wants to get it on at some point in the procedure, your plans sounds like a good way to end up getting charged with assault by a somewhat naive skier.

Lol... The vast minority of women, even the ones who don't go out to those kinds of places, would hook up with a guy given: 1) the right logistics and 2) the right guy. Religious beliefs can be something stronger but I know that even some religious girls will do other sexual things aside from vaginal penetration. I've not banged a religious chick but I've heard this happens.

No girl goes home with a guy she met a club who has been hitting on her unless she either wants to fuck him, or lives out on the streets and wants somewhere warm to stay the night. I'm extremely experienced with nightlife and nighttime pick up. I went out twice every week to clubs and approached women for 3 years straight. That's like 300 times, and I've been to all different types of venue.

 

[Rin]

I haven't tried this to be fair, but I don't think it would work if you wasn't in a relationship and if she wasn't really CRAZY turned on. There are some girls in rave clubs I've fingered on the dance floor, sometimes you could do it. But for most girls I don't think it would work. They are looking for an excuse to go with the guy while maintaining the plausible deniability of "it just happened!"... Girls don't want the slut label.

There is this strange and magical concept known as TMI. I suggest you consider it when talking about your sexual exploits.

Lol... The vast minority of women, even the ones who don't go out to those kinds of places, would hook up with a guy given: 1) the right logistics and 2) the right guy. Religious beliefs can be something stronger but I know that even some religious girls will do other sexual things aside from vaginal penetration. I've not banged a religious chick but I've heard this happens.

No girl goes home with a guy she met a club who has been hitting on her unless she either wants to fuck him, or lives out on the streets and wants somewhere warm to stay the night. I'm extremely experienced with nightlife and nighttime pick up. I went out twice every week to clubs and approached women for 3 years straight. That's like 300 times, and I've been to all different types of venue.

How do you know that? Do you interact much with women outside of a club/bar setting? Do you have many female friends?

 

[MysteryMan]

There is this strange and magical concept known as TMI. I suggest you consider it when talking about your sexual exploits.
How do you know that? Do you interact much with women outside of a club/bar setting? Do you have many female friends?

I used to have a lot of female friends but now my social circle is male dominant and the girls I am friends with are the girlfriend's of my mates. I actually decided to stick to male friends because I found being "just friends" with attractive women who saw me like I was another girlfriend to be degrading. The downside is that when you have female friends you tend to get introduced to women via social circle and getting laid via social circle is EASY AS FUCK. I used to legit feel like it was a guaranteed lay when my girl friends were bringing out one of their friends I hadn't met before... And I was ugly as fuck at that time. Fish in a barrel, boom, boom, boom. One time I remember though, the girl wasn't DTF, but there was a second new girl there and I hooked up with her instead.

Unfortunately my friend's girlfriends don't come out with us very often or introduce us to their friends. Some of them are loners who moved over from another city hours away. Some seem to only have friends I'm not attracted to. One of them is in Scandinavia lmao.

But despite the drawbacks, overall I much prefer it this way.

^ By the way could someone please re-enable my editing capabilities, because that came out like a garbled mess where I used the word "friend" too much, and I can't change it now.

 

[BuckMatic]

MM, are most of the lookism guys like you or is it really a bunch of incels? Do you talk about this same stuff with them or is this different somehow?

 

[Rin]

I actually decided to stick to male friends because I found being "just friends" with attractive women who saw me like I was another girlfriend to be degrading.

How is it degrading to be friends with someone? You should try viewing women as people first, instead of only potential sexual partners.

 

[MysteryMan]

MM, are most of the lookism guys like you or is it really a bunch of incels? Do you talk about this same stuff with them or is this different somehow?

We all talk about the same things: roids, tanning, surgery. And to a degree we talk about women. But the main topic of conversation is physical appearance.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

Lol... The vast minority of women, even the ones who don't go out to those kinds of places, would hook up with a guy given: 1) the right logistics and 2) the right guy. Religious beliefs can be something stronger but I know that even some religious girls will do other sexual things aside from vaginal penetration. I've not banged a religious chick but I've heard this happens.

No girl goes home with a guy she met a club who has been hitting on her unless she either wants to fuck him, or lives out on the streets and wants somewhere warm to stay the night. I'm extremely experienced with nightlife and nighttime pick up. I went out twice every week to clubs and approached women for 3 years straight. That's like 300 times, and I've been to all different types of venue.

Alright, now, real talk here. How many girls have you actually been in contact with for longer than a one night stand?

Because I know quite a couple of women that, if you tried to treat them like you think all women are here, they would probably push you off a pier or shove you into a wood chipper.

I'm gonna say this one more time, because you seem to be missing my point: Not everyone is as obsessed with or is as interested in sex as you are.

Seriously, the way you talk, you must come off as pretty fucking pervy in real life. I'm sure club girls and people at bars who are probably looking for something exciting at night will be fairly inclined to do that shit with you, but approach a girl in any other setting and act like this and you'll be lucky if she just slaps you.

 

[MysteryMan]

How is it degrading to be friends with someone? You should try viewing women as people first, instead of only potential sexual partners.

Because I don't like to think that someone could view me as a non-sexual entity or view me as a girlfriend. I don't mind being platonic friends with a girl if I know for a fact she thinks I'm hot/sexy. I also hated being stuck in the situation where the attractive girls I was "just friends" with would instantly be all over some new guy. It made me feel like I was worth less than that man. Even if I was literally Johnny Depp I would still feel this way. Even if I was getting laid with Playboy models every day it would make no difference.