The Neon Genesis Evangelion Thread - Death & Rebirth & Rebirth & Rebirth & Rebirth & Rebirth & Rebirth & Rebirth...

thinking a bit more about Rebuild 4.444 the 4 Eva
I still hold to my initial take of "It was an Eva ending, what the fuck did you assholes expect?"
could have used a cat or a baby wandering outside the village's anti-tang field to demonstrate how tang is imminent, and maybe kill off some randos as one fails or something
also need more chanting shit
was listening to some pretentious progrog shits with chanting shit and it struck me how little chanting shit there was in that
just that bullshit public domain joy to the world shit wtf
 
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Before I watched the film I interpreted the spoilers as Shinji's sync rate as infinite because he awoke the Eva at the end of 2.0 but Rei's presence was forcing it to zero because she wanted him to never be forced to pilot again, and she repeats these intentions when showing up long haired inside the Eva.

Anyways, on to troll people showing them how Evangelion = Final Fantasy VII down to every single beat.
 
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Joke's on you, I'm genuinely interested to hear that argument.
Both redefined their respective genres in the nineties. Both Cloud and Shinji carry a lot of repressed teen angst (even if it was for different reasons) and have been traumatized since before the start of the story, after a forgotten tragedy where someone close to him died (Zack for Cloud, and Yui for Shinji)

Waifu Wars:
- Rei and Aerith are related to ancient supernatural elements (Lilith and the Cetra), and die before the end of the story, but they remain present in the story after that in a certain way (Clones, or ascension to the lifestream) and both are right there, in a supernatural, magnificent way, as Giant Naked Rei/Aerith guiding Holy at the very end of the story, in the center of the Third Impact/Meteorfall.
- Both Asuka and Tifa end up both alone with the main character in a desolate landscape at a point very late in the story, where their relationship goes through an important moment: Asuka finally shows Shinji some affection, and Tifa and Cloud admit their feelings.

There's a secondary trio of characters, a girl and two guys, one of them loud and the other more calm, who are pushed aside when tragedy strikes: Jessie/Biggs/Wedge and Hikari/Toji/Kensuke.

Sephiroth and Kaworu: white haired angelic guys, related to different, antagonistic supernatural extraterrestrial elements coming from one of the planet's poles (Jenova and Adam), said elements taking the shape of horrific abominations (The Jenova bosses and cell mutations in FF7; the Angels in NGE). Cloud and Shinji have experiences with the angelic guys that lead them to crippling catatonic depression, and a female character very close to them (Tifa/Misato) has to snap them out of it.

The Weapons and the Angels are a series of mysterious abominations that have to be destroyed one by one. One of each are killed by a huge cannon powered by an entire chunk of the land people live in (Sister Ray powered by Midgar kills Diamond Weapon, and the Positron Cannon powered by all of Japan kills Ramiel).

There's mind-rape sequences where characters get haunted by memories and revelations and questioning their own existence. Both Jenova and Lilith arrived through a giant impact on the surface of the planet that took place long before humans were ever a thing,

LCL and the Lifestream: lifeforce substances of a certain persistent signature color, present all over the story. At the end of the second act of both stories (Vs. Zeruel in NGE, and after the first visit to the Northern Crater in FF7) the main characters disappear into the substance, leading to a trippy mental journey into their own psyche and memories while the rest of the cast has to go on without him for a while.

Gendo and Hojo: men with glasses going all "JUST AS KEIKAKU" from behind the scenes with a personal stake on all the biologically supernatural stuff, and during the final act they combine themselves with a sample of these elements. SEELE and Sephiroth seek to ascend to godhood through the lifeforce of the earth at the cost of everyone else's life.

Third Impact involves an asteroid coming out of the Earth wrecking Tokyo 3.
Meteorfall involves an asteroid falling onto Earth wrecking Midgar.

The Remakes have the angelic guys completely in full awareness of being in a Remake, and they talk to the main character like so. They show up much earlier in the story this time, too.
 
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This was literally me seeing the references to the original in the last film:

I ended up really liking it
though I think Mari ending up winning was kinda weird
 
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Both redefined their respective genres in the nineties. Both Cloud and Shinji carry a lot of repressed teen angst (even if it was for different reasons) and have been traumatized since before the start of the story, after a forgotten tragedy where someone close to him died (Zack for Cloud, and Yui for Shinji)

Waifu Wars:
- Rei and Aerith are related to ancient supernatural elements (Lilith and the Cetra), and die before the end of the story, but they remain present in the story after that in a certain way (Clones, or ascension to the lifestream) and both are right there, in a supernatural, magnificent way, as Giant Naked Rei/Aerith guiding Holy at the very end of the story, in the center of the Third Impact/Meteorfall.
- Both Asuka and Tifa end up both alone with the main character in a desolate landscape at a point very late in the story, where their relationship goes through an important moment: Asuka finally shows Shinji some affection, and Tifa and Cloud admit their feelings.

There's a secondary trio of characters, a girl and two guys, one of them loud and the other more calm, who are pushed aside when tragedy strikes: Jessie/Biggs/Wedge and Hikari/Toji/Kensuke.

Sephiroth and Kaworu: white haired angelic guys, related to different, antagonistic supernatural extraterrestrial elements coming from one of the planet's poles (Jenova and Adam), said elements taking the shape of horrific abominations (The Jenova bosses and cell mutations in FF7; the Angels in NGE). Cloud and Shinji have experiences with the angelic guys that lead them to crippling catatonic depression, and a female character very close to them (Tifa/Misato) has to snap them out of it.

The Weapons and the Angels are a series of mysterious abominations that have to be destroyed one by one. One of each are killed by a huge cannon powered by an entire chunk of the land people live in (Sister Ray powered by Midgar kills Diamond Weapon, and the Positron Cannon powered by all of Japan kills Ramiel).

There's mind-rape sequences where characters get haunted by memories and revelations and questioning their own existence. Both Jenova and Lilith arrived through a giant impact on the surface of the planet that took place long before humans were ever a thing,

LCL and the Lifestream: lifeforce substances of a certain persistent signature color, present all over the story. At the end of the second act of both stories (Vs. Zeruel in NGE, and after the first visit to the Northern Crater in FF7) the main characters disappear into the substance, leading to a trippy mental journey into their own psyche and memories while the rest of the cast has to go on without him for a while.

Gendo and Hojo: men with glasses going all "JUST AS KEIKAKU" from behind the scenes with a personal stake on all the biologically supernatural stuff, and during the final act they combine themselves with a sample of these elements. SEELE and Sephiroth seek to ascend to godhood through the lifeforce of the earth at the cost of everyone else's life.

Third Impact involves an asteroid coming out of the Earth wrecking Tokyo 3.
Meteorfall involves an asteroid falling onto Earth wrecking Midgar.

The Remakes have the angelic guys completely in full awareness of being in a Remake, and they talk to the main character like so. They show up much earlier in the story this time, too.
You forgot the most obvious link

The Magma D Type Armor in Dio's Trophy Room
 
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This was literally me seeing the references to the original in the last film:

I ended up really liking it
though I think Mari ending up winning was kinda weird
Yeah, especially when Rei’s entire arc in this movie was desperately wanting Shinji to pump a baby into her.
 
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Then what makes the extra canonical ones like Mana?
Honestly, Mana and Mari aren’t too different. They’re both openly into Shinji and aren’t afraid to act on it, and are operating on some hidden agenda for a third party. If Mana’s design weren’t relatively bland I wouldn’t be surprised if she‘d been adapted into the Rebuilds in Mari’s place.
 
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Honestly, Mana and Mari aren’t too different. They’re both openly into Shinji and aren’t afraid to act on it, and are operating on some hidden agenda for a third party. If Mana’s design weren’t relatively bland I wouldn’t be surprised if she‘d been adapted into the Rebuilds in Mari’s place.

I think she was supposed to be like if Rei had Asuka’s hair color, and not stoic. I used to confuse Mana Kirishima’s name with Kanna Kirishima’s name.

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Since the phonetics of their names sound alike albeit with a different letter. They’re also both from the Southern islands of Japan. Maybe if Mana had Kanna’s personality, size and look maybe it could make her more interesting. Imagine someone like that into Shinji.
 
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Before I watched the film I interpreted the spoilers as Shinji's sync rate as infinite because he awoke the Eva at the end of 2.0 but Rei's presence was forcing it to zero because she wanted him to never be forced to pilot again, and she repeats these intentions when showing up long haired inside the Eva.

Anyways, on to troll people showing them how Evangelion = Final Fantasy VII down to every single beat.
Who is the slutty 29 year old in FF7 that wants to take Cloud's virginity

Don Corneo?
 
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Since I mentioned Kanna, I found this online:

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Could be a commission or something, I don't get the context of this fanart, the text says something about it hot and summer. Someone help me out with the words if there's some context. But these two on this, I wonder if someone made a doujin out of this.
 
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The 14 year timeskip was the worst thing to happen to the rebuilds.
Either that or it's the biggest missed opportunity. You could have Asuka act older and calmer (or alternatively be Misato 2.0) and it would be an interesting development. Maybe have a Rei with an actual personality. Instead everyone is a bigger jerkass and the world is more apocalyptic without real point.
 
Who is the slutty 29 year old in FF7 that wants to take Cloud's virginity

Don Corneo?
Tifa is essentially Misato playing the part of Asuka, to be honest.

The "mentor guardian chief" Misato traits and the "tsundere" Asuka traits got thrown into Barret. No wonder he's an option for the date.

And I realized... How much will Yuffie be played up? She got a prologue chapter in the remake expansion, like Mari getting the opening of 2.0 for herself.
 
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In the Shinji Ikari Raising Project manga, Mana got a more active role:

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And poor Kensuke. "Why does everything, everything EVERYTHING have to be about Ikari!?!

At least in the last movie, things got better for him and he got something good.
 
I really like it, the highlight for me was the village, and how Rei Q and Shinji healed by opening up and becoming a part of society, lots of lolcows could use that advice. The ending was a little bit messy, but Father vs Son was something I always wanted to see. My only gripe is that the Mass Produced Evas are still the scariest thing in Eva, I wanted them to show up and for Asuka to kick their asses. Would a show between 2 and 3 be something you would see? I mean, you wouldnt have Shinji and we would already know how it ends, but it could give some spotlight to other characters and we would still have Rei Q.
 
Let me guess, /a/ still assmad about 3.0+1.0?

Consider this a blessing in a sea of LNs and Shinkai-shit for anime.
 
I really like it, the highlight for me was the village, and how Rei Q and Shinji healed by opening up and becoming a part of society, lots of lolcows could use that advice. The ending was a little bit messy, but Father vs Son was something I always wanted to see. My only gripe is that the Mass Produced Evas are still the scariest thing in Eva, I wanted them to show up and for Asuka to kick their asses. Would a show between 2 and 3 be something you would see? I mean, you wouldnt have Shinji and we would already know how it ends, but it could give some spotlight to other characters and we would still have Rei Q.
At this point I think they should forgo the animation and just do a one-shot manga. Something about doing another animated installment to fill in the gaps after pretty definitively ending it just rubs me the wrong way.

Also, like, is there even that much to see? The story was originally planned for the third movie, so we’re talking a 120 minute runtime on the generous side. It would need significant padding to even reach one cour as it will only really cover the timespan between 2.0 and Third Impact, which likely is no more than a year (probably just a few months).
 
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