Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Is catching Covid now better than more vaccine?​

There are marked differences in your immune system after a natural infection with coronavirus and after vaccination.
Which is better?
Even asking the question bordered on heresy a year ago, when catching Covid for the first time could be deadly, especially for the elderly or people already in poor health.
Now, we're no longer starting with zero immunity as the overwhelming majority of people have either been vaccinated or have already caught the virus.
It is now a serious question that has implications for whether children should ever be vaccinated. And whether we use the virus or booster shots to top up immunity in adults. Both have become contentious issues.
"We could be digging ourselves into a hole, for a very long time, where we think we can only keep Covid away by boosting every year," Prof Eleanor Riley, an immunologist from the University of Edinburgh, told me.

Prof Adam Finn, a government vaccine adviser, said over-vaccinating people, when other parts of the world had none, was "a bit insane, it's not just inequitable, it's stupid".
First sign of a walk-back on pushing mRNA treatments?
 
If everyone just did what they were told at the beginning, there wouldn't be any new strains anymore.
This sentiment is what's so frustrating. How have people failed biology 101 and common sense 001. We have new variants(AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE NEW VARIANTS) for 2 main reasons. The first because, like EVERY virus it mutates to become more transmissable but less deadly overtime and the second, idiots decided to give people en mass a NON-STERILIZING notvaxx shot that applies an evolutionary pressure to the virus to adapt. We've known this was bad since the 30's and the polio vaccine. How come the I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE crowd doesn't know basic biology or even just the basic history of the fucking thing they know.

If everyone did what they said at the beginning what's happening in Isreal would be happening everywhere. Hint. NOT. A. GOOD. THING.
 
I literally heard someone todays say that each variant needs a booster. Like WTF.

Newspeak looks to be working on normies.
A lot normies have given up and confirmed to the idea of being locked up in their homes pods, strapping two masks, and getting booster shots every six months for the rest of their lives. I've unironically even heard one say that eating bugs is the future and it's good to get used to eating them now before there no choice haha!
 
Indeed, what a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

Fraudci...I mean Fauci doesn't like cheap competition who'll harm his baby Pzifer-chan.
Dude, Fauci is Moderna not Pfizer, he owns the fucking thing, or at least thinks he does. He's a shareholder anyway, along with the rest of the bigwigs of NIH.

I literally heard someone todays say that each variant needs a booster. Like WTF.

Newspeak looks to be working on normies.

The thing about the variants and the boosters. The boosters at present are supposed to be the same as the original injections (which are based on the original strain, which is why they don't work all that well now), if they were to even slightly change the booster to cope with a new variant, 'normally' they would have to go through all the checks and balances to get the new booster approved too.

The worrying thing about the FDA actually giving these maniacs approval, is that they don't have the data that normal vaccines would have. Meaning that money is overriding the correct protocol, and if that is the case, then what is to stop the maniacs from tweaking the boosters, in whatever way they see fit, and since the FDA has let the original slide, then they won't need all of those checks and balances done. Please someone tell me I'm on the wrong track here...
 
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Bryan "Too Little, Too Late" Kemp comes out with protections for businesses threatened by local COVID rules. Dems & Journoroaches mad.
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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp signed an executive order Thursday allowing businesses to disregard local rules regarding Covid-19 -- a move decried by Democrats, as coronavirus cases in the state rise.

Brian P. Kemp wearing a suit and tie looking at the camera: Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp speaks at a news conference in April.
© Megan Varner/Getty Images Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp speaks at a news conference in April.
It was not immediately clear what impact the order would have on current local ordinances, such as mask mandates in Savannah, which apply to city buildings but not to businesses, and Atlanta, where the mayor's order says violations won't be enforced against businesses.


Kemp said Thursday his executive order "will ensure that business cannot be forced to follow local government ordinances regarding Covid-19."

"Local governments will not be allowed to force businesses to be the city's mask police, the vaccine police or any other burdensome restriction that will only lead to employees being let go, revenue tanking and businesses closing their doors," the governor said.

"I have been clear and consistent -- we would protect lives and livelihoods," Kemp said about his approach to the pandemic.

Kemp, a Republican, added that businesses can still choose to follow local Covid-19 ordinances, but are not required to do so.

The order tells businesses to implement measures that "mitigate the exposure and spread of Covid-19 among its workforce and patrons." The order says that "may include" any measure proven effective to control the spread, but it does not require a particular step.

Georgia has no state mask mandate.

One reason why Kemp might have issued the order is to preemptively keep cities and counties from requiring masks in businesses and punishing establishments for violations, said Page Pate, an attorney practicing constitutional law in Georgia.

The governor generally doesn't have clear authority to give an executive order that is inconsistent with a local ordinance, even in a public health crisis, without a statutory or constitutional basis -- so it's better for the governor if he acts first, Pate said.

"I think he's got a stronger legal argument if he takes the first step," Pate said. "So if a county or municipality tries to do something different, the governor can say, 'I already did something here ... you can't do something that's inconsistent with me.'"

Still, Pate said he thinks this is mostly a move to impress Kemp's political base, because, Pate said, he is not sure a court would uphold the order.

Kemp argues he has authority to give the order because he's addressing a public health crisis -- but a court could decide his order is not directed to protect public health, Pate said.



Democrats criticize move​

Georgia's Democratic Party issued a statement criticizing Kemp's order, saying he "is forbidding local governments from protecting their own communities."

"As public health officials, parents, and Georgians at large beg Kemp to take action to combat the current Covid-19 surge in our state, the only action he is apparently willing to take is one that will help Covid-19 spread in Georgia and undermine local efforts to control the virus," party spokesperson Rebecca Galanti said Thursday.

The mayors of Atlanta, Savannah, Augusta-Richmond County, and Athens-Clarke County sent a letter to Kemp Friday, criticizing his new executive order which allows businesses to disregard local Covid-19 ordinances and calling on the governor to "set the expectation that masks will be worn at state institutions under his purview."

"Asking others to mask is no different than asking motorists to stop at a red light or asking residents keep a dog on a leash at the park. It is the neighborly approach that we were all raised to follow," the mayors wrote.

Savannah Mayor Van R. Johnson, a Democrat, called Kemp's order "disappointing, but not surprising," and said Kemp was proactively preempting "local governments like Savannah from protecting themselves by following the science."

Savannah's indoor mask mandate, which covers city government facilities, city schools and early childhood centers, remains intact, the mayor said.

As for Atlanta, Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms "has followed the science and data from the onset of this pandemic," a statement from her office Friday reads.

"Masks save lives and it is absurd we must continuously defend such a simple, straightforward fact," the statement reads.

Cases and hospitalizations are rising in Georgia​

As has happened in the country at large, coronavirus cases and hospitalizations have soared in Georgia since the early summer as the highly contagious Delta variant became dominant.

Georgia has averaged more than 7,400 new Covid-19 cases a day over the past week -- more than 25 times what the figure was nearly seven weeks ago, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

Cases have jumped since July 5, when the state saw its lowest average of 2021 (292 per day). The incline threatens to rival Georgia's highest-ever case average, which was 9,778 daily on January 13, according to Johns Hopkins.

More than 5,500 Covid-19 patients were in Georgia hospitals according to data released Friday -- threatening to surpass the highest number recorded in the last 12 months (6,181 in mid-January), according to the US Department of Health and Human Services.

That number was as low as 583 on July 6, according to HHS.

As for vaccinations: 40% of Georgia's population was fully vaccinated as of Thursday, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Georgia's Department of Health had the fully vaccinated figure slightly higher Thursday, at 42%.
 

Racist Welsh fatty goes from fatty to fitty after getting covid. Drops 7 stone in 16 months, is a finalist for miss GB.

Says she wants to raise awareness of covid and obesity at the finals. Basically saying being a fat fuck is unhealthy and is putting a strain on the NHS. She also says more people are fat because of the pandemic and we need to stop being fat.

I wish Miss Kirsty Logan all the best.
 
To be honest, it probably doesn't work very well, but that also means that there are much fewer side effects, and less severe too.
I mean I'd rather get a shot with a dead virus that has few side effects and doesn't work very well than one with a pathogenic spike protein that has a multitude of severe side effects and also doesn't work very well.
 
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