Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[The Last Boyscout]

So it's essentially what the Chinese do with their Belt and Road loans but with more faggotry?

that's actually why the Chinese have made their in-roads - their loans are actually a lot more generous, hence why Africa jumped on board the second that those offers came. some of south america too, but over there they did get burned with Venezuela I think, after it fucked things up.

but that's actually the point - the IMF was literally offering these horrific deals and when China likely stepped in to actually bail some of them out and hook them on their line instead, they found it more acceptable. still with hooks and strings attached for shit like naval bases and tapping communications and repaying those loans, sure, but nowhere near as vampiric as that of the IMF.

 

[Ow The Edge]

It's one thing to do some good old fashioned genocide behind your own borders, but will the international community really just stand by while the Chinese are ethnic cleaning on someone else's property?

Yes, probably. Bribes and threats are pretty effective, and what’s anyone gonna do about it? I don’t think China would be nearly as tolerant of Pakistan’s treachery as the US was and they absolutely have their economy by the balls.

 

[DumbDude42]

that's actually why the Chinese have made their in-roads - their loans are actually a lot more generous, hence why Africa jumped on board the second that those offers came. some of south america too, but over there they did get burned with Venezuela I think, after it fucked things up.

but that's actually the point - the IMF was literally offering these horrific deals and when China likely stepped in to actually bail some of them out and hook them on their line instead, they found it more acceptable. still with hooks and strings attached for shit like naval bases and tapping communications and repaying those loans, sure, but nowhere near as vampiric as that of the IMF.

its just a choice whether you want to serve chinese overlords or globohomo overlords. and to be honest, if i was ruling a country, i'd choose the chinks, simply because the chinks' interests seem to be practical and rational: they want to make money, and they want to expand their global power base. makes sense. i give them their mining licenses and port shipping rights, and all is well.

with globohomo on the other hand, the goal is to force values and ideology on the common people. very sinister and evil stuff, very totalitarian, i don't like it at all.

 

[Niggernerd]

This is going to cause another schism in Islam.
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2D allah embraced girls > JewSA puppet women

 

[MrJokerRager]

Here are videos of the Taliban engaging western media.

 

[Gimmick Account]

Okay now some of you idiots actually are talking about some kind of Chinese military occupation and achieving consolation by masturbating to the idea that they'd fuck up like the US did/is.
That's incredibly pathetic.

It's not gonna happen, guys. There was some left over Cold War rivalry over Afghanistan between the US and Russia, but China doesn't and won't give a fuck. They will continue to not give a fuck. When they take over as uncontested world superpower it obviously won't be by imitating all the dumb shit America did in the process of retardedly losing their empire.
Daydreaming about someone else failing to make yourself feel better about currently failing is seriously a weak pussy coping mechanism.

 

[LUNEKO]

Okay now some of you idiots actually are talking about some kind of Chinese military occupation and achieving consolation by masturbating to the idea that they'd fuck up like the US did/is.
That's incredibly pathetic.

It's not gonna happen, guys. There was some left over Cold War rivalry over Afghanistan between the US and Russia, but China doesn't and won't give a fuck. They will continue to not give a fuck. When they take over as uncontested world superpower it obviously won't be by imitating all the dumb shit America did in the process of retardedly losing their empire.
Daydreaming about someone else failing to make yourself feel better about currently failing is seriously a weak pussy coping mechanism.

The soviets wanted another satellite
The USA wanted a masturbatory women ruled Islamic state
China wants minerals, and they will go scorched earth if its convenient to get them they don't care about optics or PR they know they are the Satan of the west and they are using that to their advantage they plain don't give a fuck and that's exactly what gives them power.
Really their only true opposition is India's military at this point, that's how bad this has gotten we are relying on the Poos to hold back evil

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

If the Chinese really are "practical and rational", then they'll largely steer clear of Afghanistan, because the idea that there are potentially lucrative business deals to be made in the country is more than tempered by the reality that the country is basically ungovernable, and completely toxic to foreign investment for a multitude of reasons.

I have a relative who used to oversee civil engineering projects in Afghanistan around 10-15 years ago, and they ended up abandoning the country (after some close calls) once they eventually realized that the investment was a lost cause. No sane person or organization would want to invest anything in Afghanistan, because A) anything they build there is likely to be destroyed by militants, B) any assets they store there are likely to be "misplaced" thanks to rampant corruption, and C) anyone they employ to oversee the project has a fairly high likelihood of being killed or abducted in exchange for ransom.

The Chinese government may try to do "deals" with the Taliban, but I can't see much coming from it. The Taliban have no track record of keeping their word, and despite the brave face the Chinese leadership like to put on, the Chinese are generally risk-averse.

 

[Aidan]

its just a choice whether you want to serve chinese overlords or globohomo overlords. and to be honest, if i was ruling a country, i'd choose the chinks, simply because the chinks' interests seem to be practical and rational: they want to make money, and they want to expand their global power base. makes sense. i give them their mining licenses and port shipping rights, and all is well.

with globohomo on the other hand, the goal is to force values and ideology on the common people. very sinister and evil stuff, very totalitarian, i don't like it at all.

You seem to view chinks as they want to be viewed and not as they are. Chinks aren't globohomo, which is their only positive, they will literally and figuratively rape your country, economy, and people for short term gain and there would be nothing you can do about it.

China can go play in the sand all they want, but their perceived ruthlessness will get them about as far as it has gotten everyone else in history. Of course, Chinese news propaganda will report massive progress early on and good relations with local leaders warlords and the truth of their troops meeting the same fate as those before them will be illegal conspiracy theories that aren't allowed to be talked about domestically.

The soviets wanted another satellite
The USA wanted a masturbatory women ruled Islamic state
China wants minerals, and they will go scorched earth if its convenient to get them they don't care about optics or PR they know they are the Satan of the west and they are using that to their advantage they plain don't give a fuck and that's exactly what gives them power.
Really their only true opposition is India's military at this point, that's how bad this has gotten we are relying on the Poos to hold back evil

China autistically cares about PR so much, hence their blatantly retarded attempts to skew how things are within China and how they try to fluff themselves up abroad. The "Wolf Warrior" meme didn't come out of thin air, it was a CCP directive that their foreign diplomats behave in a tough, no-nonsense manner, on social media and they ended up looking like clowns so they've stepped back from it.
If China didn't care about PR they wouldn't try to paint the Uighur genocide as totally-not-genocide bro, or have a sizable portion of their military dedicated to public image abroad in an unofficial capacity. Everything China does is PR.

If China did go in and start killing indiscriminately, they would tell the world that everything they did was retaliatory and they are there in a peaceful capacity to establish a relationship with the proud people of the Islamic Emirate or something to that tune.


Anyway, I doubt China has any intention of devoting their military to Afghanistan. On top of being a logistical nightmare, it would divert military resources away from Taiwan. I don't think the real CCP leadership is that delusional on their sub-par military logistic capabilities.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

If China didn't care about PR they wouldn't try to paint the Uighur genocide as totally-not-genocide bro, or have a sizable portion of their military dedicated to public image abroad in an unofficial capacity. Everything China does is PR.

If China did go in and start killing indiscriminately, they would tell the world that everything they did was retaliatory and they are there in a peaceful capacity to establish a relationship with the proud people of the Islamic Emirate or something to that tune.

The whole Uighur thing would immediately discredit them, they'd be seen and given the same treatment as the Soviets and Americans. If the chinks go full ham it'll be time for massive amounts of popcorn because today's Taliban are very social media savvy.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Let China learn. They can deal with a 9/11 equivalent, super-genocide all the tribals and watch as the cycle repeats forever with no profit, lol.

Africans are too lazy and retarded for your shit. But pissed off muslims in the ME? Uh, good luck!

 

[Nopenopenope]

Also posting some memes here.

 

[Aidan]

The whole Uighur thing would immediately discredit them, they'd be seen and given the same treatment as the Soviets and Americans. If the chinks go full ham it'll be time for massive amounts of popcorn because today's Taliban are very social media savvy.

It'd be fun to see Taliban social media be swarmed by 50 cent army posts. If China does go in I can't wait for the webms from Taliban footage.

 

[Ghostse]

So it's essentially what the Chinese do with their Belt and Road loans but with more faggotry?

Not exactly. But not too far off either.

Belt and Road is where Chinese give countries loans to hire China to build their infrastructure so China can come and extract their natural resources. Belt and Road includes on-going maintenance. The road construction is how China gets its workers and heavy equipment into a country, so the state-run mining companies can quietly replace the locals at the mines to make sure shit actually gets done.

China doesn't give one ever loving shit what goes on in these countries other than mine output. They want to keep the wheels on the ChiCom's pipe dream a little longer. The IMF wants global stability.

There's another side to Belt and Road which is...
China's engineering is shit. Complete and utter shit. They know this.
So you send all your wanna be civic engineers to go experiment and gain experience in Africa, so they make all their fuck ups there instead of on domestic projects.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It needs to be pointed out that though China has a land border with Afghanistan, it's a howling wilderness on the other side of the Taklemakan desert. There are no road or rail links between the two countries and the border is so inhospitable the Chinese don't even really police it. Any sort of Chinese military adventure into Afghanistan would have the same logistics issues the US had, and need to be supported by Air.

 

[Niggernerd]

I don't think the real CCP leadership is that delusional

they thought killing all the birds would stop people from starving then blamed natural disasters when the locust ate the crops
Nothing regarding chink delusions and retardation is a stretch.

 

[ZMOT]

The chinks are getting away with genociding/converting muslims in their own country, you think they cant do the same in afghanistan?

same way the US built a successful nation in america meaning they can do so in the middle east...

it's moot point anyway since china isn't there for the population or the terrorists among them. they gonna roll in "yo, that dirt valley in bumfuck nowhere you never gave a shit about and probably didn't even know existed is ours now, cool? cool!", then they drop some money or weapons and fuck off.
they gonna stick to their dirt valley and won't bother anyone else, which means there's no reason to start shit with them. how would the taliban even incite another waaagh!, tell everyone some infidels sit in some dirt valley in bumfuck nowhere and do what? they're not there trying to instill western values by waving pride flags around or fuck with their way of life. that's the thing with goat herders and sandniggers, they have no need for all that money, if they even have a concept what a trillion even is. they won't care if some yellow infidels want to play in the dirt - but try to steal their women and turn their kids gay and see what happens.
and if they're still dumb enough china will have the PR on their side protecting their poor slaves workers from islamic terrorists.

and that's if they even bother in the first place. sure, there might be gold in them hills, but it won't just pop out of the ground if you ask. where's the power to mine it? where's the infrastructure to actually get it out of the country? not to mention china already owns a lot of that stuff already, that one trillion in rare earths is current market value, but that won't stay there if you dig up more of it. they can just sit on it and make sure no one else taps it, and you don't need soldiers in country for that (inevitably they gonna have to deal with it when either the price becomes unfeasible so others want to go to the source directly or their stock runs low, but that's still a good bit in the future, and who knows what the world will look like then)

 

[JustSomeDong]

If the Chinese really are "practical and rational", then they'll largely steer clear of Afghanistan, because the idea that there are potentially lucrative business deals to be made in the country is more than tempered by the reality that the country is basically ungovernable, and completely toxic to foreign investment for a multitude of reasons.

I have a relative who used to oversee civil engineering projects in Afghanistan around 10-15 years ago, and they ended up abandoning the country (after some close calls) once they eventually realized that the investment was a lost cause. No sane person or organization would want to invest anything in Afghanistan, because A) anything they build there is likely to be destroyed by militants, B) any assets they store there are likely to be "misplaced" thanks to rampant corruption, and C) anyone they employ to oversee the project has a fairly high likelihood of being killed or abducted in exchange for ransom.

The Chinese government may try to do "deals" with the Taliban, but I can't see much coming from it. The Taliban have no track record of keeping their word, and despite the brave face the Chinese leadership like to put on, the Chinese are generally risk-averse.

Hasn't stopped the Chicomms from going full colonialism (but the good kind, amirite?) in Africa. I dont see why this would be any different.

 

[Ghostse]

Okay now some of you idiots actually are talking about some kind of Chinese military occupation and achieving consolation by masturbating to the idea that they'd fuck up like the US did/is.
That's incredibly pathetic.

It's not gonna happen, guys. There was some left over Cold War rivalry over Afghanistan between the US and Russia, but China doesn't and won't give a fuck. They will continue to not give a fuck. When they take over as uncontested world superpower it obviously won't be by imitating all the dumb shit America did in the process of retardedly losing their empire.
Daydreaming about someone else failing to make yourself feel better about currently failing is seriously a weak pussy coping mechanism.

I'll take the bait.

China has not gotten sucked into any military adventurism because they have never had the chance with adjacent borders. Afghanistan is their first chance to get their dick stuck in the hornets nest.

I'm trying to summarize, so apologies for oversight and rambling like a kue-tard.
China really doesn't give a shit about the mining. They would like access, the middle class would buy the shit out of the lapis, but they don't care, really. That's a nice to have.
What they want is a secure, overland path to Iran. They want a pipeline to move Iranian Oil in so they can use a roadway to trade for everything that Iran needs. They also want to be able to use Iran as a go-between to expand their arms exports to the Middle East and South America via Hezbollah.

So China makes deals with the Taliban for road construction. But the Taliban have enemies. These enemies are likely to start suddenly declaring the Ugiyurs as important vital muslims and begin collaborating with them on terror attacks. First outside China and then possibly inside.

China cannot let this go unanswered. They will try to task the Taliban with it, but the Taliban are shiftless arabs. They will talk a big game, and do nothing. China will threaten their loans, but the problem is you can't threaten an Afghan with that shit. "Oh, well, ok I guess I just go back to raising and fucking goats like I was doing from 800ad until last week".

Which means China will be left with two options:
Write everything off, shut down their overland link with Iran and go back to how it was before, or go in and fight themselves.

I want add to this how precarious the CCP's position in China really is. The average chink is a jingoist nationalist high on their own racial superiority, but they are loyal to China and not the People's Republic of China. If China's economy fails to grow (I believe its by 3% yoy, but cannot remember the exact metric) for more than two years, it would trigger an economic crisis that would see the CCP overthrown by violent mobs.
So they would be very motivated to keep that trade link open.

 

[What the shit]

U.S. Identifies Vast Mineral Riches in Afghanistan (Published 2010)

The nearly $1 trillion in untapped deposits are enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy and perhaps the Afghan war itself, officials said.

www.nytimes.com

Oh-ho, yes it is. The moment we pulled out our media started beating the fucking war drums over this and talking about how China is going to take advantage of it. I'm not sure if it's overblown or not but Afghanistan is sitting on a sizable pile of lithium.

Is it worth the risk? Probably not.

The last time I looked Afghanistan had roughly 3 trillion dollars worth of minerals so I would say that is definitely something the Chinks would take advantage of, at least in my opinion.