UK Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban

Joe Biden's handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was condemned as "catastrophic" and "shameful" on Wednesday as the Houses of Parliament delivered an unprecedented rebuke to a US president.
MPs and peers from across the political spectrum, including Boris Johnson, put some blame for the Taliban's takeover and the chaos that followed on Britain's closest ally.
Mr Biden was accused of "throwing us and everybody else to the fire" by pulling out US troops, and was called "dishonourable" for criticising Afghan forces for not having the will to fight.
Former defence chiefs who led British troops in the Middle East were among those to speak out, while there were warnings that the West's withdrawal would embolden Russia and China.
The interventions mark a deterioration in UK-US relations almost exactly 20 years after Britain joined America in invading Afghanistan to root out terrorism after the September 11 attacks.
But it was not just Mr Biden who faced criticism, with Mr Johnson and his ministers told they had overseen the worst disaster in British foreign policy for 65 years.
The Prime Minister was accused of not doing enough to rally allies to support Afghanistan as the US departure became apparent, including by his predecessor, Theresa May.

Wednesday's debate marked the first time Parliament has sat as normal in more than a year, as MPs and peers crammed into the chambers with Covid social distancing rules gone.
Mr Johnson began by arguing that America's decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan had forced Britain's hand, saying it was an "illusion" to think other allies wanted to step in to keep the peace.
"The West could not continue this US-led mission – a mission conceived and executed in support and defence of America – without American logistics, without US air power and without American might," the Prime Minister said in a clear swipe at Washington.
MPs from all sides of the Commons were forceful in their criticism. Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, said: "The US is, of course, an important ally, but to overlook the fighting of the Afghan troops and forces, and the fact that they have been at the forefront of that fighting in recent years, is wrong."
Sir Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: "The American decision to withdraw was not just a mistake – it was an avoidable mistake, from President Trump's flawed deal with the Taliban to President Biden's decision to proceed, and to proceed in such a disastrous way."
Tom Tugendhat, the Tory chairman of the foreign affairs committee, who fought alongside Afghans as a British soldier, called out Mr Biden's criticism of the Afghan army.
"To see their commander in chief call into question the courage of men I fought with, to claim that they ran, is shameful," he said, to murmurs of approval from other MPs.

Labour MP Chris Bryant called Mr Biden's remarks about Afghan soldiers "some of the most shameful comments ever from an American president".
Khalid Mahmood, a Labour MP and former defence minister, said: "The Biden government have just come in and, without looking at what is happening on the ground, have taken a unilateral decision, throwing us and everybody else to the fire."
Other MPs who served as soldiers also rounded on Mr Biden. Iain Duncan Smith, a former Tory leader, called his comments "shameful", while Labour MP Dan Jarvis described them as "particularly distasteful and dishonouring". Tobias Ellwood, a former veterans' minister, said the US withdrawal was "absolutely the wrong call".
Leading Conservatives in the Lords also made clear their disapproval. Lord Hammond, a former foreign secretary, said: "When I listen to the US president, I cannot help reaching the conclusion that this decision was made out of a sense of political tidy-mindedness – we need to close a file; we need to draw a line; it has gone on for too long."
Lord Howard, another former Tory leader, said Mr Biden's withdrawal "is, and will be seen by history as, a catastrophic mistake which may well prove to be the defining legacy of his presidency".

The heated rhetoric has thrust the state of the "special relationship" and the Biden-Johnson partnership into the spotlight. The Telegraph understands Mr Johnson had been attempting to get Mr Biden on the phone to discuss Kabul falling from Monday morning. The pair eventually talked at close to 10pm on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, General Sir Nick Carter, the head of the Armed Forces, accused the US of "shattering" the morale of Afghan troops when they stopped air strikes.
A UK defence source insisted the UK and US military were continuing to work closely at Kabul airport in a race against time under way to evacuate people with the Taliban nearby. However, there is concern amongst some in government that the US might soon pull out of the airport, according to Whitehall sources.
Philip Reeker, America's acting ambassador, went into Downing Street for talks with Will Gelling, Mr Johnson's foreign policy adviser.
While the day of debate was playing out in Westminster after Parliament was recalled from its summer recess, the Taliban was tightening its grip on Afghanistan. Militants shot dead at least three people after protesters pulled down the group's banner and raised the Afghan national flag in its place.

The Taliban was also tightly controlling which Afghans could enter Kabul airport to escape, leading to footage of girls locked out and begging to be helped by Western forces.
Senior former UK defence figures criticised Mr Biden, with Lord Dannatt, the former head of the British Army, saying: "The manner and timing of the Afghan collapse is the direct result of President Biden's decision to withdraw all US forces from Afghanistan by the 20th anniversary of 9/11.
"At a stroke, he has undermined the patient and painstaking work of the last five, 10, 15 years to build up governance in Afghanistan, develop its economy, transform its civil society and build up its security forces. The people had a glimpse of a better life – but that has been torn away."
Lord Houghton of Richmond, a former chief of the defence staff, said: "I think the American decision to withdraw military support was a dreadful one, and the resulting chaos should be of no surprise."
Mr Johnson came in for repeated criticism for his handling of the Afghanistan withdrawl, including by Mrs May.
She said: "In July of this year, both President Biden and my Right Honourable friend the Prime Minister indicated that they did not think that the Taliban were ready or able to take over control of the country

"Was our intelligence really so poor? Was our understanding of the Afghan government so weak? Was our knowledge of the position on the ground so inadequate? Did we really believe that, or did we just feel that we had to follow the United States and hope that, on a wing and a prayer, it would be all right on the night?
"We boast about global Britain, but where is global Britain on the streets of Kabul? A successful foreign policy strategy will be judged by our deeds, not by our words."
Mr Johnson talked to Mario Draghi, the Italian prime minister, on Wednesday as he pushed world leaders for a unified position on the new Taliban regime. Foreign ministers from the G7 group of nations will hold talks on Afghanistan on Thursday.
The UK had evacuated around 1,200 people from Kabul on military flights as of Wednesday morning. Around 300 were UK nationals and 900 were Afghans and others who had helped the UK's mission in the country.

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Fuck the Afghanis. If they wanted a better country they could have worked toward it. What'd they do? Flung their weapons down and fucking ditched. Those rats deserve everything coming to them.
 
we have very complicated emotions towards you limeys. We both dislike you, adore you, pity you, and laugh at you all at the same time, and we definitely don't dislike you as much as the French.

What we do not tolerate is wholesale shitflinging at our Republic, even if we generally agree with you that the bus is being driven by lunatics and retards right now.
nah it's pretty much only hatred, let's be real the US is easily the most anglophobic nation on earth (including the republic of ireland).
I don't mind americans unhinged hatred of us, I just wish we had a more honest relationship that better reflected the views of the American people, not it's politicians.

But kudos for your efforts in this thread to fight that nasty stereotype that Americans are the thinnest skinned people on earth.
 
"If I list all the anti British memes maybe people will ignore this colossal fuckup by my president".
Nah mate, just pointing out how much of a shithole your country is. Aside from autistic faggot @Hollywood Hulk Hogan, I think you'll find most of the Burger Kiwis didn't vote for the demented pedophile and actively hate him.

nah it's pretty much only hatred, let's be real the US is easily the most anglophobic nation on earth (including the republic of ireland).
I don't mind americans unhinged hatred of us, I just wish we had a more honest relationship that better reflected the views of the American people, not it's politicians.

But kudos for your efforts in this thread to fight that nasty stereotype that Americans are the thinnest skinned people on earth.
Yeah no, for a country that hates you we're pretty accommodating to all of your entertainment industry's rejects. Plus, the Indians, French, and Irish definitely have more of an ax to grind with you, considering they lost their wars to you.

And for a people who consider themselves God's gift to Earth you've sure done a hell of a lot demonstrating your cultural and economic value aside from a lot of memes at your expense.
 
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Nah mate, just pointing out how much of a shithole your country is. Aside from autistic faggot @Hollywood Hulk Hogan, I think you'll find most of the Burger Kiwis didn't vote for the demented pedophile and actively hate him.

Why are you in this thread making so many posts defending him and his shambolic handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal if you actively hate him? It's pretty bonkers behaviour mate.
 
I guarantee you that the US is doing far more than just pulling security for the airport. Likely have teams all over the country securing or destroying assets. Busy time. We just aren't advertising it.

Apparently not, and that is something the French government has actually criticised the US for in recent days.

Like that Taliban parody of the Jiwa flag raising; the US has left tanks, guns, armour, missiles and a range of military technology behind. This isn't stuff they gave to the Afghans, this was their own shit they just couldn't be bothered to take with them.

Any other army would blow them up to prevent them being reused. Big brain Americans inadvertently arm up a terrorist state instead.

Congrats retards; they'll be using them on Westerners at some point because it's not China and Russia who are the Great Satan; if you guys want to put yourself at risk that's one thing but these cunts will be after anyone vaugley white and perceived to be European in the following decades.

Trump was malevolent, hedonistic and stupid; but at least he wasn't retarded, incompetent and in the late stages of dementia like Grandpa seems to be.
 
You'll have to repeat that. I believe you were attempting a burn, but I couldn't hear it over the sizzling of a woman's face after an acid attack.
>Imagine complaining about non fatal injuries when Chicago is a thing.

Lmao. The roast beef really didn't send their best on the Mayflower.
 
"To see their commander in chief call into question the courage of men I fought with, to claim that they ran, is shameful," he said, to murmurs of approval from other MPs.
They literally lost the entire country in a fucking week. An army of 300,000 armed with the most advanced weapons, armor, and aircraft that the U.S.A could supply them with, and they lost fucking immediately, entire divisions surrendered without firing a shot. The handful of men that can actually fight over there said fuck it, and are leaving with the American soldiers. The few groups of commandos who actually fought for the democratic government were abandoned by their leaders immediately and hunted down by the Taliban.
 
These Biden criticisms have certainly riled you up to the point where you're lashing out at us Brits in a very very angry way.
You Brits are a mongrel race inhabiting a foggy island whose primary export is alcoholism and gang rape. The French have done more for world cultural advancement than you lot ever will.

Also haven't answered my question. Nice attempt at a goal shifting, you might be better qualified to start for the England national team than the woke tards you've currently got. Two Workd Wars, one world cup, whole lotta butthurt.
 
It is always nice when lobbyists for Military spending, contractors and weapons makers finally show their hand by revealing just for how long they have fostered spending and donations to political parties to buy their absurd vote to fight wars for profit and how many are in their pockets.

It is breathtaking the amount of consultancy agencies for Military and hired thugs that have as directors or stakeholders members of parliament and here in the United States.

War is profitable and Biden has stepped on their toes. Well fuck them.

Send your own kids to get their arms and legs blown off motherfuckers. And not the cushy jobs, I mean the real ones out there where they actually get some action.

And the Afghan soldiers didn't lose - we simply trained an army for the Taliban which is what we've spent a Trillion Dollars on. They send us thank you's. They love all our equipment and well trained fighters.

So thank you on behalf of the Taliban.
 
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>Imagine complaining about non fatal injuries when Chicago is a thing.

Lmao. The roast beef really didn't send their best on the Mayflower.
nigga, wasn't the East end of London home to more fatalities than New York, without guns? Bitch please.
 
lol you serious? it would take me like 20 minutes to get through the whole list.

The occupation of Florida, where we cucked your great empire by hanging a bunch of British pirates on Spanish soil
Mexican American War
Civil War
Indian Wars
Spanish American War
The War in the Philippines
The numerous interventions in the Banana Republics, like at least ten
Like any of these are wars :story:

(we pretty much saved your asses in WWII but I'll ignore that to spare your ego)
By joining 3 years late, stealing Nazi's to build you a moon rocket? I'll give you props for using Nazis to nuke their ally Japan though. Epic trolling.
I'm not even going to include the ones where you basically acted as side support, and we included you just to be polite.
:story: Like the war in Afghanistan where Nato said it won't go ahead without British support? And we had to rally Europe to help you? How did us sitting on the sidelines work out? Oh yeah, you went cap in hand to us to save your people, while your baby sitting force threw a tantrum :story:
If you can do it, do it. Scraping Biden's Crypt Keeper ass out of the oval office needs to be done. Kamala is awful but unfortunately political brinkman ship brought us to this point. I wish to call Dems bluff that we won't cripple the executive branch out of spite.
you guys have got to pick a side though, only half-joking. It's Britain vs your Swamp at the moment. Remember, Trump has a mansion in Scotland...
At least we don't need a loicense to wank, and we're allowed to carry butter knives on our persons.
I don't need a license to wank (props for using the word as a yank) and i can carry butter knives.
what exactly is Britain on the world stage except, in the words of the Rt. Hon. James Hacker, MP, a glorified US hangar base?
You know the simpsons meme of the Russian fella at the UN saying "That's what we wanted you to think", and he presses the button and Russia becomes soviet union? The same but with Lizzy, and the badge changes to British Empire. What kind of poker player would tell the other players what cards he had? A shit one.

If you guys dislike the Brits so much, because we're so shit, then you need to:

Tear up your constitution - written by brits, based on the magna carter
Change your language - Change it anyway because you can't speak English at the best of times
Change your national anthem - literally a song sung by pissed-up toffs down the local in London, just with the lyrics changed (100% true, look it up). :story:


To any yanks reading this and getting offended, it's just friendly banter, stop being faggots.
 
It is always nice when lobbyists for Military spending, contractors and weapons makers finally show their hand by revealing just for how long they have fostered spending and donations to political parties to buy their absurd vote to fight wars for profit and how many are in their pockets.

It is breathtaking the amount of consultancy agencies for Military and hired thugs that have as directors or stakeholders members of parliament and here in the United States.

War is profitable and Biden has stepped on their toes. Well fuck them.

Send your own kids to get their arms and legs blown off motherfuckers. And not the cushy jobs, I mean the real ones out there where they actually get some action.

And the Afghan soldiers didn't lose - we simply trained an army for the Taliban which is what we've spent a Trillion Dollars on. They send us thank you's. They love all our equipment and well trained fighters.

So thank you on behalf of the Taliban.
Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Buzz Killington.

Is this the new party line? We should support Biden because he's pissed off the MIC who Qanon, trump-supporters, hate?

Try again.
 
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