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Are MauLer's videos too long?

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Well it's that time again, where people unfamiliar with efap discover one of his unbridled videos and are naturally confused as to how one person can sperg about a mediocre capeshit movie for 4 hours. Mauler you make content and videos that are super niche in nature, of course most people outside your audience are put off by 4 hour videos and 12 hour livestreams of shitty popcorn flicks.
 
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It's here, it starts in 15 minutes:
The paypigs are already hard at work
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Korpon said:
It's here, it starts in 15 minutes:
The paypigs are already hard at work
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I get giving one or two dollars, maybe five even, to a creator you like. I can also get wanting him to read what you have to say.
But why the hell would you spend hundreds of dollars on that ? If I had that much disposable income, I would buy something worthwhile.
 
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Valentinian II said:
I get giving one or two dollars, maybe five even, to a creator you like. I can also get wanting him to read what you have to say.
But why the hell would you spend hundreds of dollars on that ? If I had that much disposable income, I would buy something worthwhile.
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Keep in mind a lot of those peoples are neets without friends so why not spemd hundreds of dollars so your internet family doesnt leave you?
 
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Ash97 said:
So lemme get this this straight: Mauler has time to make a 4 hour thing on Black Widow, but no time for
  • The Boys
  • Joker
  • Game of Thrones finale (altho tbf I guess there isn't much to say at this point, but I'm pretty sure he was still going to? might be wrong tho)
  • and TFA Part whateverthefuck
  • also, wasn't he going to cover Mandalorian as well? or was it just Rags who was gonna review it?
does he like... percieve time differently? I'm not even saying I'm super interested in seeing any of the ones I listed, it's just that if you're not gonna make those videos - just say you're not going to make them, why keep letting people on?

Well, hopefully at least the Black Widow video is good. There is no argument about whether that movie deserves dunking on, or not.
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Because Mauler doesn't actually have much to say on any of those. TFA sucked ass but he already has two or three videos on it and it's not a movie so terribly deep that you need to go into a 10 hour rant to explain what was shit about it. Game of Thrones he basically covered in EFAP streams and in the three videos he made, so there's very little he can add now. Joker, I don't think he was ever particularly interested in and the worst you can say about it is that it's excessively pretentious and uses Batman as a vehicle to push a Falling Down re-do, except not as funny. The Boys is something I figured he'd do but he's probably too bored.

Mauler makes videos on stuff that takes his interest. Which isn't a crime but he needs to be, at the very least, honest with his audience about this instead of pretending like he's ever gonna make the videos he has no interest in. One of the reasons I at least respect E;R, he only ever cared about ranting about The Legend of Korra and a bunch of other awful shit that took his attention, if there's nothing of interest, then nothing will come.
 
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noonster said:
So I was skipping around the BW unbridled, and got to a part where Mauler laments that now MCU projects are more focused on setting up the next product rather than telling stories about characters, and earlier today I found a clip on twitter from the documentary "A Decade under the Influence" which is about the filmmaking of the 70's, in which Scorsese gives a quick comment praising Sam Rami's Spider-Man.
https://twitter.com/OmarOVO24/status/1427324068978647042
And as people in the thread are pointing out, his praise of Rami and insult of the MCU has to do with Rami making a movie with his creative spark to tell a story about characters that wasn't trying to push several other characters for movies and tv shows, as opposed to the MCU which even before 2019 people were making jokes about the MCU formula and how a lot of the later movies were low-key ads for future movies. I don't know if people have sent this to Mauler, but I feel like he would make some arbitrary reason as to why he's right and Scorsese is wrong, even though I feel like they are both more or less making the same criticism of the MCU.
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I found that kinda hilarious considering that one of Mauler's complaints about Black Widow is that they didn't have any of the Avengers to handle a world-level crisis. Which is also the case for pretty much all the other stand-alone hero films in the MCU except for Civil War which was actually an Avengers movie in disguise. Dude recognizes all the problems that the MCU had all-along, he just refuses to recognize that they were there from the start, Iron Man excluded (only re-watchable movie in the entire MCU, probably because it wasn't made to fit the Marvel formula but was a genuine labor of love). Guy still sucks the first Avengers film's dick even though it's mediocre at best.
 
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So part two of the livestream is ongoing as of writing this, and on it while skimming I noticed them watching a certain video I had seen but never watched.
Naturally by the title alone you can tell how it will be received, I haven't watched the part where they react to this video cause I'm too tired to watch an hour of their livestream at the moment, but there's one part of the video that I want to see their reaction to specifically. At 7:30 of the above video, the guy, Thomas Flight, explains that the popularity of these corporate franchise movies, have made it so that when it comes to stuff like the MCU and SW, Disney can throw their weight around and muscle out other movies from getting screenings in theaters, and that a lot of movies like Scorsese's Irishman have to look to streaming services to see the light of day. I bring this up because, as many people have already brought up in the thread previously, Mauler and co. constantly piss and moan about how "cinema is dying" and "all movies are shit now" when it's obvious that a big chunk of their media palette is popcorn flicks and Disney slop. So I'm curious what their reaction will be to this guy, Thomas Flight, saying that a big reason the movies Mauler pretends to like aren't getting the press and attention that they normally would, and why it feels like there's only big budget franchise popcorn flicks in theaters now is because of corporate franchises like the MCU that he will defend despite currently hating them.
 
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noonster said:
So part two of the livestream is ongoing as of writing this, and on it while skimming I noticed them watching a certain video I had seen but never watched.
Naturally by the title alone you can tell how it will be received, I haven't watched the part where they react to this video cause I'm too tired to watch an hour of their livestream at the moment, but there's one part of the video that I want to see their reaction to specifically. At 7:30 of the above video, the guy, Thomas Flight, explains that the popularity of these corporate franchise movies, have made it so that when it comes to stuff like the MCU and SW, Disney can throw their weight around and muscle out other movies from getting screenings in theaters, and that a lot of movies like Scorsese's Irishman have to look to streaming services to see the light of day. I bring this up because, as many people have already brought up in the thread previously, Mauler and co. constantly piss and moan about how "cinema is dying" and "all movies are shit now" when it's obvious that a big chunk of their media palette is popcorn flicks and Disney slop. So I'm curious what their reaction will be to this guy, Thomas Flight, saying that a big reason the movies Mauler pretends to like aren't getting the press and attention that they normally would, and why it feels like there's only big budget franchise popcorn flicks in theaters now is because of corporate franchises like the MCU that he will defend despite currently hating them.
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It's just "you're dumb" "wrong" and, of course "you're gatekeeping", as well as some gotchas. That idiot rags doesn't understand that the experience of watching of a movie in a theater is different from watching it from your home. The director created his movie generally with the theater experience in mind. They also unironically think that Joker is close to the artsy movies Scorcese wanted. Not to mention strawmaning what he said.

It's really just them shouting their audience into believing they're right. And that their capeshit is as valid as any other movie ever made.
 
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ArthuriusMartyrius said:
Because Mauler doesn't actually have much to say on any of those. TFA sucked ass but he already has two or three videos on it and it's not a movie so terribly deep that you need to go into a 10 hour rant to explain what was shit about it. Game of Thrones he basically covered in EFAP streams and in the three videos he made, so there's very little he can add now. Joker, I don't think he was ever particularly interested in and the worst you can say about it is that it's excessively pretentious and uses Batman as a vehicle to push a Falling Down re-do, except not as funny. The Boys is something I figured he'd do but he's probably too bored.

Mauler makes videos on stuff that takes his interest. Which isn't a crime but he needs to be, at the very least, honest with his audience about this instead of pretending like he's ever gonna make the videos he has no interest in. One of the reasons I at least respect E;R, he only ever cared about ranting about The Legend of Korra and a bunch of other awful shit that took his attention, if there's nothing of interest, then nothing will come.
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you clearly missed the part where I said
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I'm not even saying I'm super interested in seeing any of the ones I listed

it's just that if you're not gonna make those videos - just say you're not going to make them, why keep letting people on?
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Dude recognizes all the problems that the MCU had all-along, he just refuses to recognize that they were there from the start, Iron Man excluded
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He does recognize that, actually. He's mentioned it multiple times before as being the MCU's core issue.

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It's just "you're dumb" "wrong" and, of course "you're gatekeeping", as well as some gotchas.
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Gonna watch that part of the stream for myself, but I can easily see them doing that. Which is a shame, because the video is shit and deserves criticism. Dismissing the emotional moments in Marvel movies as "filler" doesn't make any sense. It's not filler if it's actually doing something to help define a character, motivate a character, or inform the audience about a character, and so on. I think Marvel movies do pretty well with their emotional moments. Spider-Man: Homecoming is a great example. When Peter seems defeated, and panics for a moment thinking he's going to die in that scene under the rubble, is that filler? I don't think so. It's a character defining moment. Which leads me to another huge issue with that video: The way he just splices in footage from Marvel action scenes and compares them to non-action scenes from other movies. I 100% agree with Scorsese, but this is dishonest. Take the car-ride scene from Homecoming and compare it to the part in The Departed where Leo beats up the two mob guys in that store. There is nothing to gain from such comparisons, and it definitely doesn't get across Scorsese's point. He says that Scorsese's point is that Marvel films are crowding out cinema. No. That's not the point. The point is: "The [Marvel] pictures are made to satisfy a specific set of demands, and they are designed as variations on a finite number of themes."

They're a corporate product, not art. They're not made to be art, they're made to satisfy children, sell toys, and make money. That's not a matter of opinion. The scene with Peter crushed under rubble? It's not filler. It's the emotional climax in that specific set of demands Scorsese mentions. The discussion shouldn't even be about whether or not Scorsese is right. It's self evident that he is. The discussion should be about whether or not the way franchise movies operate is bad. And the answer is yes. It is bad. Because that finite number of themes are already being repeated ad nauseum, and the quality of these films will only decrease as they run out of ways to tell the exact same stories over and over again.

Pardon the autism, just had to get that off my chest.
 
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It's just "you're dumb" "wrong" and, of course "you're gatekeeping", as well as some gotchas. That idiot rags doesn't understand that the experience of watching of a movie in a theater is different from watching it from your home. The director created his movie generally with the theater experience in mind. They also unironically think that Joker is close to the artsy movies Scorcese wanted. Not to mention strawmaning what he said.

It's really just them shouting their audience into believing they're right. And that their capeshit is as valid as any other movie ever made.
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Lets not forget one of their favorite responses/non arguments: "appeal to authority". Heard that from them a lot.
 
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