Just because they were about doesn't mean they were anywhere near as prolific or annoying as the degenerate menace they are today. It has gotten much worse, by several orders of magnitude.
As Dear Leader Jersh pointed out in one of his streams a while back, in a Jersey Shore episode around about 2010 they were openly joking about how The Situation may or may not have fucked a tranny he met in the club, and they repeatedly used that word to describe the sus person, as well as all the hallmarks he/she was displaying (choker to cover the Adam's apple; gloves to hide the man hands etc).
They concluded with possibly the best advice Jersey Shore ever produced: "If you have to ask --if you even have to stop and think about it-- it's a tranny."
Try to imagine anything like that being aired today. It wouldn't happen; everyone involved would be shitcanned instantly and driven off social media before they could even get their dog into frame to film an apology video.
Were you able to openly tell them that they were dudes back then?
And indeed, today you would be pestered with all kinds of law suits if you called them tranny or male.
Office Ayden doesn't like other gay men referring to her as gurrrll or femininizing her "name" as a joke. Even though this is how gay men treat each other & should be a sign of acceptance that they're not treating you any differently because you're trans. Aydens want the gays from their yaoi novels and not actual gays.
Gay men judgemental? Shocked I tell you! I love they've gone the route the reason they don't fit in is because they're too masculine. These delusional girls
Were you able to openly tell them that they were dudes back then?
And indeed, today you would be pestered with all kinds of law suits if you called them tranny or male.
You could call them whatever shit you wanted and nobody cared, because it was before the grand pussification of the internet which followed in the wake of the Holy Autism War that ruined everything.
Just because they were about doesn't mean they were anywhere near as prolific or annoying as the degenerate menace they are today. It has gotten much worse, by several orders of magnitude.
As Dear Leader Jersh pointed out in one of his streams a while back, in a Jersey Shore episode around about 2010 they were openly joking about how The Situation may or may not have fucked a tranny he met in the club, and they repeatedly used that word to describe the sus person, as well as all the hallmarks he/she was displaying (choker to cover the Adam's apple; gloves to hide the man hands etc).
They concluded with possibly the best advice Jersey Shore ever produced: "If you have to ask --if you even have to stop and think about it-- it's a tranny."
Try to imagine anything like that being aired today. It wouldn't happen; everyone involved would be shitcanned instantly and driven off social media before they could even get their dog into frame to film an apology video.
Office Ayden doesn't like other gay men referring to her as gurrrll or femininizing her "name" as a joke. Even though this is how gay men treat each other & should be a sign of acceptance that they're not treating you any differently because you're trans. Aydens want the gays from their yaoi novels and not actual gays.
Gay men judgemental? Shocked I tell you! I love they've gone the route the reason they don't fit in is because they're too masculine. These delusional girls
The tranny circlejerk subreddit can be a goldmine. Here's some quality AGP seethe n' cope (archive).
It's supposed to be a "joke" but as expected the comments are full of musty incels who unironically feel that way.
This one is my favorite. He so fucking demented he can't bear to see women be friendly with each other. Fundie pastors wish they could be this homophobic.
Nope. The world was a vastly different place than what you read.
hysterical and crazy trannies were regulated to shock value rating news reports and Jenny Jones/Murray Povich for laughs. Trans men were almost unheard of and most transsexual women were actually hand in hand with gays in LGBT activism especially through the AIDS crisis. Most just transitioned and went on with their lives and It was rare to see one if you didn’t live in a major city with a large gay population and often mistaken them for drag queens when you did meet one (which drag by then was already popularized by Rupaul, To Wong Foo and Pricllia queen of the desert so it wasn’t that big of a deal) they were nothing like this new breed of obnoxious fucks. At most with old school trannies it just took a minute to wrap your head around when you met one.
Well to be honest trans was such a rare thing and drag was so popular you just kind of assumed any man that dressed and appeared as a woman was drag queen. They didn’t flip out about it or lecture you about transsexualism. They just let you know through dressing and appearance during the day and for the most part people kinda got it after that. (And how they dressed varied. You had your wild nightclub trannies and your everyday ones that just dressed like a normal women being the goal was to integrate and not draw attention to themselves but most did genuinely put effort into passing)
And yes the AIDS crisis hit the trans community hard. Gays, lesbians and trans women worked equally together on fighting it. The division you see now in the LGBT with the trans was something you would NEVER imagine happening back then. That’s how tight the community was
I do agree with your point, BUT I also do disagree with you in some points and think Donuts&Frenchfries-lover has a point. Back then trannies were accepted because they were either much more sane and just wanted to live their life lowkey, or they were regulated off into their little subcultures to begin with. They were big part of the gay culture too, because most were actually LGB who wanted to present as opposite gender and engage in seemingly straight relationships. In gay culture it's actually blurred what constitutes as trans or simply being gender non-conforming. They could be criticised and made fun of. It was no big deal.
All the legislation that validated transsexual identity back at the time were allowed because there were gatekeeping transition and they were rare enough to not cause any problems. They were screened that creepers wouldn't get to transition. It was also a legislation that was created to enforce social and cultural standard of the time. It was a regulated caste for people who didn't fit in, so they can become 'acceptable' compromise. There's a reason why legal sex marker change in your ID predates gay marriage in all western countries. (You know some conservatives who thought if someone doesn't fit with the standard gender roles, they must actually better be the opposite sex. Those people who'd rather have a trans 'daughter' than a gay son. Chris Jorgensen's transition were stated to be an attempt to 'cure homosexuality', and this is how Iran still operates today.)
Though I feel like the problem with TRA today was partly supported by the existence of legal infrastructure that was created to accommodate old school sane trannies in the first place. A social and legal policy that was sensible at the time may not be very sensible anymore. When the floodgate of degeneracy and woke menace happened - the loony sideshows we're seeing here could use their officially validated identities to invade women space and general oh-so-oppressed crybullying. The system that was put in place became repurposed for culture war. This degeneracy won't be stopping soon because establishment loves them, the media love to peddle people to transition more, they're the biggest self-advertising cash cow the elites can ever dream of. They're lifelong medical patients, they're good PR for the extreme capitalistic liberal individualism due to the focus on the idea of authentic self (that can be bought).
The general population is losing the faith they have in the concept of transgenderism/transsexualism due to the increasing insanity from TRA and woke brigades, just like how much we've lost our the faith in lobotomy, phrenology and other outdated sciences of the early 20th centuries. How eugenics which were a genuine idea to lessen the suffering of disabled people and was seen as progressive, got married with racism and it birthed Nazi atrocities to the point that eugenics as whole got dumped into the bin.
People are waking up to the fact that letting anyone to identify into anything and believing that reality can be overwritten by words isn't the best idea, WHILE they are actually also more accepting of gender non-conformity, crossdressing and homosexuality. Now, I feel like many people don't really mind how someone would dress or act, but they would mind if they couldn't really acknowledge that someone is a dude or a chick without twitter blowing up and they're out of their job tomorrow. Having male or female word, printed in your driver's license doesn't matter anymore when everyone knows what a tranny is and can clock one. the general populace is getting too exposed to the concept of transgenderism to the point that the illusion cannot go for too long anymore.
Transgender identity was a thing of its time, but the condition that made it exists peacefully doesn't exist anymore, so it's bound to change.
Funnily we kept joking that fatass troonettes who got mastectomy looked ridiculous with their flat chest because a man that fat would've got some moobs. Maybe the surgeon is actually doing a great job???
Good question. This is some ridiculous enby girl I found on zuc-book who looks like Chunk from the Goonies. She seems very pleased with her top surgery, but those still look like boobs to me...
Nope. The world was a vastly different place than what you read.
hysterical and crazy trannies were regulated to shock value rating news reports and Jenny Jones/Murray Povich for laughs. Trans men were almost unheard of and most transsexual women were actually hand in hand with gays in LGBT activism especially through the AIDS crisis. Most just transitioned and went on with their lives and It was rare to see one if you didn’t live in a major city with a large gay population and often mistaken them for drag queens when you did meet one (which drag by then was already popularized by Rupaul, To Wong Foo and Pricllia queen of the desert so it wasn’t that big of a deal) they were nothing like this new breed of obnoxious fucks. At most with old school trannies it just took a minute to wrap your head around when you met one.
That’s easy to say if you were white/whitepassing or had LBG privilege.
All the Asexuals and genderqueer/genderfluid, non-passing transsexuals, otherkin and demiromantic were LITERALLY persecuted and gassed in your jolly 90ies.
There are some great videos floating around that show how much of a cult it all is. I'd love to see a speaker shout out "Allahu Akbar" and get a reply of "Transwomen are Women". Or is that "Transwomen are Women" and get a reply of "Allahu Akbar"
And in an addendum to the Star Wars shop story, here's a point that ought to be emphasized more. The Tranny went there specifically to pick a fight. The sign had gone from the window before he arrived.
I do agree with your point, BUT I also do disagree with you in some points and think Donuts&Frenchfries-lover has a point. Back then trannies were accepted because they were either much more sane and just wanted to live their life lowkey, or they were regulated off into their little subcultures to begin with. They were big part of the gay culture too, because most were actually LGB who wanted to present as opposite gender and engage in seemingly straight relationships. In gay culture it's actually blurred what constitutes as trans or simply being gender non-conforming. They could be criticised and made fun of. It was no big deal.
All the legislation that validated transsexual identity back at the time were allowed because there were gatekeeping transition and they were rare enough to not cause any problems, and they were screened that creepers wouldn't get to transition. It was also a legislation that was created to enforce social and cultural standard of the time. It was a regulated caste for people who didn't fit in to become 'acceptable'. there's a reason why legal sex marker change in your ID predates gay marriage in all western countries. (You know some conservatives who thought if someone doesn't fit with the standard gender roles, they are must actually better be the opposite sex. Those people who'd rather have a trans 'daughter' than a gay son. Chris Jorgensen's transition were stated to be an attempt to 'cure homosexuality', and this is how Iran still operates today.)
Though I feel like the problem with TRA today was partly supported by the existence of legal infrastructure that was created to accommodate old school sane trannies in the first place. A social and legal policy that was sensible at the time may not be very sensible anymore. When the floodgate of degeneracy and woke menace happened - the loonies sideshows we're seeing here could use their officially validated identities to invade women space and general oh-so-oppressed crybullying. The system that was put in place became repurposed for culture war. This degeneracy won't be stopping soon because establishment loves them, the media love to peddle people to transition more, they're the biggest self-advertising cash cow the elites can ever dream of. They're lifelong medical patients, they're good PR for the extreme capitalistic liberal individualism due to the focus on the idea of authentic self (that can be bought).
The general population is losing the faith they have in the concept of transgenderism/transsexualism due to the increasing insanity from TRA and woke brigades, just like how much we've lost our the faith in lobotomy, phrenology and other outdated of the early 20th centuries. How eugenics which were a genuine idea to lessen the suffering of disabled people and was seen as progressive, got married with racism and it birthed Nazi atrocities to the point that eugenics as whole got dumped into the bin.
People are waking up to the fact that letting anyone to identify into anything and believing that reality can be overwritten by words isn't the best idea, WHILE they are actually also more accepting of gender non-conformity, crossdressing and homosexuality. Now, I feel like many people don't really mind how someone would dress or act, but they mind if they couldn't really acknowledge that someone is a dude or a chick without twitter blowing up and they're out of their job tomorrow. Having male or female, printed in your driver's license doesn't matter anymore when everyone knows what a tranny is and can clock one. the general populace is getting too exposed to the concept of transgenderism to the point that the illusion cannot go for too long anymore.
Transgender identity was a thing of its time, but the condition that made it exists peacefully doesn't exist anymore, so it's bound to change.
Funnily we kept joking that fatass troonettes who got mastectomy looked ridiculous with their flat chest because a man that fat would've got some moobs. Maybe the surgeon is actually doing a great job???
This was amazingly put and want to genuinely sit back ponder some more of what you wrote because some of the plot twists you threw may answer the couple year head scratcher I’ve had about “how we got here…” because to me (which is mainly based on my general personal experience) things went from fine to chaos overnight but as you know things don’t happen just suddenly - there’s always a road that takes you there and your way makes some good points and sense.
I know, I love people then trying to argue against it when they learn this. How is this a bad thing, do you want people to have deformites and disease?
My favorite part is they always use CIS women in their reaction GIFs and photos even though they're supposedly more womanly and prettier. Why not use yourselves if thats the case?
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Such a pleasant personality on this one!
Fgs how do you expect people to believe your delusion with such large hands and bullish neck. Shave that down!
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Also self-identifying as a comedian. Hair color and the entirety of sexual dimorphism is of course directly equivalent.
One is trying to learn Japanese (I wonder why) and is shy, one is passionée de jeux vidéos (Sir, your French grammar is off, males are passioné not passionée) and is shy and my favorite quote is of course: Oui, j‘ai encore ma courgette. Bon appétit!
Oh shit homes. You can increase your chance to match with steve by over 3X! That squared off jaw tho! C'mon lesbians! That's obviously your IDEAL woman! Can't get more butch than having a dick. Eh? Eh?
There goes "Alice" with the obligatory hammer and sickle. Only thing worse than a troon? A commie troon. One form of delusion isn't enough.
On what planet would you think you wouldn't be one of the first to get sent to the gulag or just be executed? You're an unnecessary drain on the state.