Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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Folks, was just thinking of something.
Have seen a lot of Presidents, have read about others.
EVERY President has had at least one major fuckup. However, when the Presidents I saw committed their fuckups, I had a reasonable belief and trust they'd bounce back, recover, and keep taking care of business for the country. They did. Exception was Nixon in 1974.
This time, I don't believe Biden can recover. Not at all. I take no pleasure from saying this. The spirit is willing, but the body and mind are rapidly failing.
We as a nation have never been in this territory. Everyone knew FDR was in bad shape physically in late 44 and early 45 but he was still mentally in command until the day the aneurysm got him. Ike had two heart attacks but there was no doubt he was in command. Reagan was shot and underwent surgery, and as soon as he woke up from the procedure he was back in charge.
Some of the most dangerous times happen when there's a leadership vacuum in a major or superpower. People were on pins and needles in Washington whenever a Soviet leader died, since the selection process for a new General Secretary was so opaque. There was a lot of anus-clenching after Brezhnev died. Just get used to Andropov and he kicks the bucket. Sweat things out until the husk Chernenko got in. Lastly, a bit more anus-clenching until Gorbachev became General Secretary, and later the first and last President. Same thing happens when China changes leaders, for the same reason. Uncertainty is dangerous. You want something certain, even if the person's an asshole.
There's a definite leadership vacuum in Washington. Have never seen anything like this. We have a President that cannot do his job. We have a Vice-President who has no clue and has no desire to do her job. And we are just seven months into a 48-month term. All I can think of is Biden being 25thed, Kamala picking a VP, and her resigning.
We are truly living in interesting times, and NOT in a good way. We can have no idea what will happen in Washington tonight, much less tomorrow. NOT a good thing, in my book.
Have seen a lot of Presidents, have read about others.
EVERY President has had at least one major fuckup. However, when the Presidents I saw committed their fuckups, I had a reasonable belief and trust they'd bounce back, recover, and keep taking care of business for the country. They did. Exception was Nixon in 1974.
This time, I don't believe Biden can recover. Not at all. I take no pleasure from saying this. The spirit is willing, but the body and mind are rapidly failing.
We as a nation have never been in this territory. Everyone knew FDR was in bad shape physically in late 44 and early 45 but he was still mentally in command until the day the aneurysm got him. Ike had two heart attacks but there was no doubt he was in command. Reagan was shot and underwent surgery, and as soon as he woke up from the procedure he was back in charge.
Some of the most dangerous times happen when there's a leadership vacuum in a major or superpower. People were on pins and needles in Washington whenever a Soviet leader died, since the selection process for a new General Secretary was so opaque. There was a lot of anus-clenching after Brezhnev died. Just get used to Andropov and he kicks the bucket. Sweat things out until the husk Chernenko got in. Lastly, a bit more anus-clenching until Gorbachev became General Secretary, and later the first and last President. Same thing happens when China changes leaders, for the same reason. Uncertainty is dangerous. You want something certain, even if the person's an asshole.
There's a definite leadership vacuum in Washington. Have never seen anything like this. We have a President that cannot do his job. We have a Vice-President who has no clue and has no desire to do her job. And we are just seven months into a 48-month term. All I can think of is Biden being 25thed, Kamala picking a VP, and her resigning.
We are truly living in interesting times, and NOT in a good way. We can have no idea what will happen in Washington tonight, much less tomorrow. NOT a good thing, in my book.
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I love the West Wing and consider it a relic of a bygone era, and I was kind of excited for this show upon hearing about it, but that speech cemented that I'm going to be avoiding any explicitly political Sorkin projects going forward.
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If the White House is apparently staffed by West Wing LARPers now I wonder how many low level employees in the major cable news networks watched Newsroom and thought 'Wow.... this is literally me!'
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Very astute. If anyone were to ask me several years ago about a hypothetical situation like this I might have said the Joint Chiefs would step in and purge the filth then hold elections ASAP. But we have Milley blathering about woke points, the military recruits trannies, giving them sex change operations on the taxpayer's dime and they're engaged in a witch hunt looking for "white supremacists". So they're useless.
These are uncharted waters and the skipper is too busy taking HRT to notice.
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Remember when New Orleans got hit by Katrina? Yeah, this response will be different or similar depending on NYC's status quo.
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We are in a Truman Show now.
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He's laughing. Thousands of Americans are stuck in Afghanistan, Afghans are literally climbing and falling out of US aid planes, the Taliban have taken over that country UNDER HIS WATCH and he's laughing.
Take that THING back to Delaware.
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I remember when they would cry about ableism when people would point out Biden's failing mental (and to a degree physical) health.
We literally once had a wheelchair-bound president.
Nobody is saying Biden isn't fit to lead because he has a gimp leg, can't run fast anymore, or has diabetes. Biden is almost 80 - nobody expects him to have a 100% perfect memory and he doesn't have to be able to recall events from 40 years ago perfectly to lead. But dementia is an entirely different beast and I'm not sure how many people really understand what it is.
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In an aside related to Biden, I am thinking at this point that his Handler's are only saying that people have an issue that he has withdrawn, not how it's going. I'd suspect the man -barely remembers- any details he has been given as to how badly it is going, making this the only thing they can drill into him for a semi-coherent response.
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https://conservativebrief.com/biden-aides-afraid-49130/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=ProTrumpNews
This is some eye opening shit. Nobody had any real balls to challenge Biden. Although they knew abandoning that airbase was a bad fucking idea.
Brits know something is terribly wrong. https://trendingpolitics.com/britis...has-gone-completely-mad-knab/?utm_source=poso
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9917109/SAS-dramatic-desert-raid-save-troops-Taliban.html
Holy shit, no wonder they are pissed, almost killed an entire squad of SAS. Real call of duty shit show, had to fight their way to a secret extraction point.
lol
.... sad state of affairs.
https://trendingpolitics.com/border...isis-almost-dead-inside/?utm_source=economics
They are not allowed to do their jobs and manpower is extremely limited. I feel for these guys.
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Why are they afraid of challenging a dementia patient who falls up stairs?
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For the the polidicks spergs here, I have a genuine question, why did Biden, or his handlers, went along with this withdrawn debacle.
I'm far from a political pundit
That might very well be the case, and I'm no political pundit nor I like to make presumptions over shit I don't really understand, i would like to give two points:
1- This is still early on Biden's presidency, and news cycles are moving faster than ever, Biden's strategy of hide and shut up gave him the presidency in the first place, and so far, I think it will work again on his behalf, unless something drastic changes.
2- Biden cognitive problem is one everybody knows and the democrats will just truck along, it is pretty clear that it is Biden's hadlers that are running the officie and so far that hasn't been a issue. If kamala harris was going to make her move to get the seat, it should have been now, but instead she flew away to Vietnam to do whatever the fuck, she knows that ain't gonna happen, and after this shit she will go back to the senate.
I think Biden will be fine really, I mean, as fine as it can be. We can't forget that this whole thing is a machine, no one is vital, and the cogs will keep turning. Nothing short of Biden droping dead will change things (which could happen as well, at his age this stress is fatal).
What is really fucked though is the democrats. Not really talking about red waves, or republican house take over or whatever, I'll believe when it happens, but the image the democrats is in the toilet, they are trully the image of incompetence, be the dumbass in California panicking over his recall, or the clueless dementia ridden man in the white house, all these fuck ups have destroyed the very image of the democrat party.
Even Trump have people that still like him, I think no one likes the Democrats, but the vote blue no matter who is one strong tradition that they rely upon... for how long I wonder.
I'm far from a political pundit
That might very well be the case, and I'm no political pundit nor I like to make presumptions over shit I don't really understand, i would like to give two points:
1- This is still early on Biden's presidency, and news cycles are moving faster than ever, Biden's strategy of hide and shut up gave him the presidency in the first place, and so far, I think it will work again on his behalf, unless something drastic changes.
2- Biden cognitive problem is one everybody knows and the democrats will just truck along, it is pretty clear that it is Biden's hadlers that are running the officie and so far that hasn't been a issue. If kamala harris was going to make her move to get the seat, it should have been now, but instead she flew away to Vietnam to do whatever the fuck, she knows that ain't gonna happen, and after this shit she will go back to the senate.
I think Biden will be fine really, I mean, as fine as it can be. We can't forget that this whole thing is a machine, no one is vital, and the cogs will keep turning. Nothing short of Biden droping dead will change things (which could happen as well, at his age this stress is fatal).
What is really fucked though is the democrats. Not really talking about red waves, or republican house take over or whatever, I'll believe when it happens, but the image the democrats is in the toilet, they are trully the image of incompetence, be the dumbass in California panicking over his recall, or the clueless dementia ridden man in the white house, all these fuck ups have destroyed the very image of the democrat party.
Even Trump have people that still like him, I think no one likes the Democrats, but the vote blue no matter who is one strong tradition that they rely upon... for how long I wonder.
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It could be a piss poor excuse to cover their asses, who knows what happens behind closed doors. They do say the white house is run with an iron fist that does not tolerate dissent.
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It gets even worse, because congress needs to approve whomever Kamala picks. We have a 50/50 split in Senate. Without a VP to be the tie-breaker, they'll never compromise. If Joe gets 25th'd this could rapidly turn into a constitutional crisis
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They're not afraid of him but rather the people who are puppeting his rotting old form, by openly questioning or challenging him they're threatening their control of the world's most easily used puppet.
Also the majority just want to keep their jobs and positions more than they care about the good of the country.
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Do you mean why they did it this way?
Trump's contract said they'd be out by May 1. But because Orange Man Bad and Biden wanted symbolic clout (plus other unknown reasons maybe), Biden essentially tore up the contract and made up his own date for withdrawal - 9/11 (hence symbolic clout). This triggered the Taliban who immediately commenced their swift takeover of Afghanistan.
As to why they withdrew in such a retarded way, we don't know. Maybe it's because they're retarded.
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So which GOP bootlicker do you think Kamala will pick as "reconciliation"?
Null our stickers here in this board are insufficient.
Null our stickers here in this board are insufficient.
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For the first bit, they delayed it to get the political capital gain. Why they kept it is because it would absolutely tear asunder their fragile coalition to stop the withdrawal after Trump had started it. The Progressive wing hates the war, for entirely wrong reasons but oh well, and are the only thing keeping the party afloat. So they thought they could keep the withdrawal to keep the progressives and turn it into a big political gain factory for the rest of their coalition, the independents, and a fair chunk of Republicans. A lemons into lemonade situation.
They rather obviously miscalculated.
To the second, you are simply wrong. The hide and wait it out thing he had going in the General only ever hurt him. It's just that putting Joe up hurt him more. Even ignoring whether you think fraud did or did not occur, there only ever was a slow ticking down of his support due to the strategy. So no, it in no way won him the Whitehouse. And the problem is that a major crisis is not something you just let blow over, the populace does remember. Normally, an early crisis is forgotten not due to time but because an administration can put successes ahead of it to lessen the damage. This does not make it forgotten though, it just makes the good outweigh the bad.
Biden is gridlocked in Congress, looking down the barrel of a potential Red Wave if congress can't 'fortify' the election, is being actively hurt by his former allies, and this crisis is one of if not the biggest fuckup by a President ever. Any one of those would prevent the administration from being able to let it die down in importance, all four is a death knell.
This, any leak at this point coming FROM that camp is going to be a lie meant to throw Biden buswards and make themselves less culpable. Keep an eye out for Who and What is said, but know that the Who is a person responsible and What is the lie they mean to use. Nobody in that admin was unaware of Biden's condition or unaware of the cabal.
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Why would that be a crisis?
At this point, having no president at all might be objectively better than Biden as president.
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What is this facebook post faggot?
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