Trashfire Fresh & Fit vs Aba and Preach - Redpill "Alphas" get collectively shit on

Apparently the girl does onlyfans and is also a signle mom. Literally every quality that he tells other guys not to fuck/date lmao



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LMAO she has a whole twitter full of this stuff:
 
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I swear, most of the men following Fresh and Fit believe on some level they are "high value men" just for watching the fucking podcast.
At least with Kevin Samuels, good or bad like him or hate him, he makes it very clear that his definition of "high value man" is $100K/year. Either make that, work up to it, or fuck right off.

Whether you agree with that definition or not, he's not deluding a bunch of basement-dwellers or worthless manchildren...

...then again, technically DSP would be a "high value man" by Kevin's definition. So it's not perfect by any means.
 
At least with Kevin Samuels, good or bad like him or hate him, he makes it very clear that his definition of "high value man" is $100K/year. Either make that, work up to it, or fuck right off.

Whether you agree with that definition or not, he's not deluding a bunch of basement-dwellers or worthless manchildren...

...then again, technically DSP would be a "high value man" by Kevin's definition. So it's not perfect by any means.
What difference does it make? This type of dating is about long term investment, not finding a bible study partner. Poop girl Kaitlyn Bennett and shekel-loving Natalie Portman would be considered high value on the women side of the fence for their genetic inheritance but are shit humans.
 
At least with Kevin Samuels, good or bad like him or hate him, he makes it very clear that his definition of "high value man" is $100K/year. Either make that, work up to it, or fuck right off.

Whether you agree with that definition or not, he's not deluding a bunch of basement-dwellers or worthless manchildren...

...then again, technically DSP would be a "high value man" by Kevin's definition. So it's not perfect by any means.
Just to clarify Kevin's definition of a high value man is someone who (he spells this out in this video at about the 23 minute mark.):

1) Makes at least $100k+ a year
2) Has been making that for 3-5 years
3) Is recognized as a peer by other high value men
4) Has a network of high value men (and others)
5) Visibility is "LinkedIN Level" (kind of boomer-ish but I understand what he means)
6) Has utility, is useful to others in the group

He also added that high value men possess these 4 traits (I forget what all he said about this part, it's in the video linked above):

1) Discipline
2) Integrity
3) Morals
4) Ethics

He also said that he generally doesn't consider people under 30 to have achieved that status due to a lack of maturity.

While the idea of him getting caught in bed and being on the down low is frankly hilarious, he DOES generally give good advice, and I agree with his assessment of what a high value man is. Of the people in the manosphere to me he is possibly the least full of shit.
 
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At least with Kevin Samuels, good or bad like him or hate him, he makes it very clear that his definition of "high value man" is $100K/year. Either make that, work up to it, or fuck right off.

Whether you agree with that definition or not, he's not deluding a bunch of basement-dwellers or worthless manchildren...

...then again, technically DSP would be a "high value man" by Kevin's definition. So it's not perfect by any means.
Well DSP actually fails to meet the criteria still because Keven also says "clean yourself even your asshole and no i ain't gay for cleaning my ass"
 
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If I missed one, sorry.
What lessons of being a man can we figure out from this instagram?
 
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streaming now.

Someone smells some bullshit.
Weeeeel Kiwis tomorrow they are going to address everything. Ratio gotten better now that they lost subs.
Some random just came on the stream wanting to start a fight. Apparently they know him? They unfortunately ended the stream do we don’t know what’s happening. The guy called one of them a rapist? Wtf is going on lmao
 
Some random just came on the stream wanting to start a fight. Apparently they know him? They unfortunately ended the stream do we don’t know what’s happening. The guy called one of them a rapist? Wtf is going on lmao
I dunno I left pretty early 'cause they are BORING.
How many views did they top off?
 
I dunno I left pretty early 'cause they are BORING.
How many views did they top off?
LMAO

this might end bad

Apparently he's a former employee?


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Apparently Aiyendee is the dude on the left.


They're going back live in a few minutes. This trash fire never ends! :story:


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BIG IF TRUE

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Sike he came in on his own not with preach:
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They're going back live in a few minutes. This trash fire never ends! :story:


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BIG IF TRUE
Apparently Myron and Co said something on Insta.
BIG X abut Aba and Preach coming in there.
My bet Myron or Co. doxxed Preach who has a wife.
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#Priorities. This is the audience they grow.
They saying there is proof posted?
I have no clue I am not and Insta hookah.
Here come the simps
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Apparently Myron and Co said something on Insta.
BIG X abut Aba and Preach coming in there.
My bet Myron or Co. doxxed Preach who has a wife.
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#Priorities. This is the audience they grow.
They saying there is proof posted?
I have no clue I am not and Insta hookah.
Here come the simps
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Allegedly fresh pulled a gun out. They're talking to police right now.
 
Allegedly fresh pulled a gun out.
WELP
I hope no one get's hurt but this was BOUND to happen. These people use women like kleenex. Women have dad's, brother's, cousins etc.
I am squatting in the chat now.
This is going to be an interesting night. Are you capable of screen recording their show? I already pulled the episode, but you archived the break in moment.
 
WELP
I hope no one get's hurt but this was BOUND to happen. These people use women like kleenex. Women have dad's, brother's, cousins etc.
I am squatting in the chat now.
This is going to be an interesting night. Are you capable of screen recording their show? I already pulled the episode, but you archived the break in moment.
I'm not if they are coming back though. Once police involved it may take a while because there is a legitimate dispute. See Andy Warski. But if they are I will.
 
I'm not if they are coming back though. Once police involved it may take a while because there is a legitimate dispute. See Andy Warski. But if they are I will.
OMG so many STANS in their chat. The estrogen in this place is REAL.
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If you coming in to view the thread go here
Just DO NOT cow tip.
Let's go boys.
I got work to do.
They gonna give us the FAXXXX.
Let's watch.
I do believe the cap's mean they are full of shit. Annnnnnd I am not buying it. I am OBSing it.
Watching this unfold. This is some FEMALE energy here.
 
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Normally I wouldn’t care about any of this drama, but OP did a decent job covering it so far. It could use some beefing up, but at least it’s a start. Formatting though needs fixing @Superman93. Archive your links and embed some of the youtube links as videos.
- Fix the formatting
- Added more content. (If it doesn't suffice I could always add more.)
- Added Archives
 
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