Trashfire Fresh & Fit vs Aba and Preach - Redpill "Alphas" get collectively shit on

[Cum Laudely]

I hope we get Boogie vs. Frank 2.0 with Aba showing up at Fresh and/or Fits house to stand outside menacingly.

That ain't happening unfortunately I thought where they recorded the podcast was a studio, not their fucking condo. Having a gun in a condo complex is just asking for trouble. Its like using a flamethrower in a box. You just don't do it. While yes the smaller the space is the less places you can shoot (BUT) if you miss. Who knows where that bullet is going. If they miss at their front door that bullet is going into someone else's condo. I feel their should be legislation or carry exceptions when firing in essentially a giant fucking box.

So I thought I would respond to you.
Have you watched Donovan Sharpe? I mentioned them. Also the Kevin Samuels stans are HILLARIOUS. This guy Rubel Zaman. Over half of this dude's channel is defending Kevin Samuels.
Oshay Duke Jackson is also VERY emotional over Kevin Samuels as well.
Enjoy but do not tip.

I think RP channels can be GREAT for young men. A lot of them are lost and directionless. It is important not to stan even if these are idols.
I will not keep going as your instincts were correct.
Anyway thank you for engaging.

I'm familiar with Sharpe just know he's in the manosphere also. I have my own personal definition of MGTOW not because I consider myself to be a part of it or anything but when I hear those words I envision something entirely different than what it is. They tend to be a slightly less pathetic version of incels. I'm traditional so I do think the ultimate goal should be marriage or bare minimum a long lasting relationship like Gene Simmons and his gf of 40+ years or some shit. So I don't think it looks bad for some of these guys to be married or anything. As long as they did have a journey of discovery before they got hitched.

The few that seem authentic is the Better Bachelor and LonnySpence which use to be Daily Mens Redpill or something. Don't know the origins of Lonny dude seems to be a jock that somehow came into the community. However he got there I haven't seen any video since the name change but originally he seemed genuine.

As for Kevin Samuels what a piece of work. That turbo feminist "Big Red" I think she's Canadian. He's like the male version of her. I think he does more harm than good with his rhetoric. Exactly how Big Red came off she would say good things, but it would all be lost with her attitude. Kevin Samuels is the same he's abrasive and arrogant the good things he preaches gets lost in his abrasiveness. If I were to tell him that I already know he would take it wrong and say "so you want me to coddle and baby callers?" You don't need to start coddling people either because that's going to the other extreme. There is a happy medium though, which he doesn't ever reach. He only knows how to give advice but you absolutely need to know how to read people also. It wouldn't hurt to learn how to de-escalate too. Hes a one trick pony and only knows how to give advice.

 

[Dona Morte]

I'm traditional so I do think the ultimate goal should be marriage or bare minimum a long lasting relationship like Gene Simmons and his gf of 40+ years or some shit. So I don't think it looks bad for some of these guys to be married or anything. As long as they did have a journey of discovery before they got hitched.

ABSOLUTELY agree on marriage being the goal.
Donovan though- you see cat-fish pics of Devon?
She is not hot.
I LOVE Better Bachelor. Most honest out of all of em.

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

As for Kevin Samuels what a piece of work. That turbo feminist "Big Red" I think she's Canadian. He's like the male version of her. I think he does more harm than good with his rhetoric. Exactly how Big Red came off she would say good things, but it would all be lost with her attitude. Kevin Samuels is the same he's abrasive and arrogant the good things he preaches gets lost in his abrasiveness. If I were to tell him that I already know he would take it wrong and say "so you want me to coddle and baby callers?" You don't need to start coddling people either because that's going to the other extreme. There is a happy medium though, which he doesn't ever reach. He only knows how to give advice but you absolutely need to know how to read people also. It wouldn't hurt to learn how to de-escalate too. Hes a one trick pony and only knows how to give advice.

I think he's doing this shit on purpose because he knows it's what got him the most attention. For a long time he talked to both men and women but he didn't really blow up from the men. All of his viral moments came from his interactions with women, especially the more vitriolic ones. In this one aspect his content is purely commercial, though like I've said he does occasionally throw out some good info.

I LOVE Better Bachelor. Most honest out of all of em.

This! Joker comes across as honest with his intentions even though he is a bit of a boomer at times.

 

[Dona Morte]

This is interesting.
Red Pill Mike is by far the BIGGEST donator to all of them. COVID. Was 62

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

This is interesting.
Red Pill Mike is by far the BIGGEST donator to all of them. COVID. Was 62

Apparently it was A CONSPIRACY!!!11!!!

 

[Dona Morte]

Oh Oshay
You should have YEETED your freak out off the internet.
Uploading in case he yeets.
Audio only.
Enjoy the Oshay's breakdown.
Internet is forever.

 

[hash-slinging slasher]

A youtuber, Anna Quin, blamed Fresh & Fit for her being more likely than not to miscarry. This video is a compilation of multiple back and forths between the woman and Myron Gaines (Fresh?). It was easier to archive this than to hunt down every relevant video. There is apparently a 4 hour stream that I refuse to find and watch.

The youtuber who uploaded this doesn't have anything to do with the fight. She's just someone who showcases drama that usually involves men's failed attempts to be Alpha Males and women's failed attempts to be True Feminine Women. Besides the first few minutes of her whining about YouTube policy, she doesn't have much commentary and just lets the videos play.

In one of the clips, Myron admits that when him and Anna talked about doing a collab (her being a fitness youtuber too), he said he'd only let her on the show if she let him fuck her. Anna got upset because chances are he didn't tell her male neighbor to fuck him when Fresh invited him on to the show. His response is that HIGH VALUE MEN are rare but women like her (someone who probably makes the same amount of $ as her neighbor) are everywhere so of course collabing with him as a man requires you have some clout already but collabing with him as a woman requires you have some clout AND transactional pussy. He seems to think he's a black Harvey Weinstein.

There was no proof of this next part in Yanie's video compilation due to absolutely no one wanting to download then take clips from a 4 hour stream, but supposedly this led to Anna ranting on social media and showing the text exchanges. Myron responded by telling his fans an odd version of events. His fans then bombarded Anna, supposedly causing her so much stress that her doctor told her that she might go into early labor, with her baby dying in the process.

The video compilation includes a few clips of her begging him to tell his fans the truth and to chill because they can make her miscarriage if they don't stop. I'm going to guess that she didn't just log off from social media for a few weeks because that's how she makes her money. Despite that, it still feels stupid to not turn off the computer if it's causing that much stress. Announce to your fans that you need a break to protect your future kid, shed a few tears on camera, and give them merch to buy to support your vacation. Boom. Done.

Abba also makes an appearance in one of the videos in the compilation but only for a few seconds. The clip seemed to be him trying to convince a Fit & Fitness fan that lying to your fans to send the hounds on a woman, whose only crime was being offended that you wanted her to prostitute herself to you for clout payment, might not be the most ethical thing to do.

EDIT: Apparently part of this drama was already mentioned in this thread. My post just goes into more detail.

2nd EDIT: Made corrections. Anna didn't blur Myron's name.

 

[Stasi]

As for Kevin Samuels what a piece of work.

Another mgtow grifter. Think I came across him after a clip went viral of him telling some woman she is "average at best". Thought it was funny so looked up some other clips and there was one where a woman called in saying she's struggling to find a man after leaving someone who was sleeping around and lying. Kevin's response was "you should never have left him, sleeping around is in our nature as men and you need to accept that"

Nigga what? This coming from the guy who trashes women over any indiscretion? Guy has some warped logic or is just a straight up hypocrite. Sad seeing the number of people using these fucks as role models.

 

[Dona Morte]

Another mgtow grifter. Think I came across him after a clip went viral of him telling some woman she is "average at best". Thought it was funny so looked up some other clips and there was one where a woman called in saying she's struggling to find a man after leaving someone who was sleeping around and lying. Kevin's response was "you should never have left him, sleeping around is in our nature as men and you need to accept that"

Nigga what? This coming from the guy who trashes women over any indiscretion? Guy has some warped logic or is just a straight up hypocrite. Sad seeing the number of people using these fucks as role models.

It's not even about that he advocates for sleeping around.
He has had two failed marriages, and claims to be for black people.
I'll check out the other video too thanks.

I watched the video. She has point. Her business is all online so she cannot just "turn in off".
I have watched the show with them, and were GASLIGHTING and manipulating the audience in that Q and A. I do not know if the OP wants to do a thread on these fuckers but they have a LONG history of fucking around. Oshay even says so in that audio I uploaded.

I do not agree on de-platforming them. YouTube should remove super chats from them for at least a month dip shits like these should be punished in the pocket book. About 20 min- bitch made move he "owns it" yet he STILL treats her like trash. He is a SHITTY business man. Mess with your opportunity? Come on dude. Weak again.
Anyway just my thoughts.

Oshay interviewed Ayindei

Response to the "receipts" stream by F and F looser.

 

[Stasi]

A small update on this, its only really tangentially related to the Aba and Preach drama because they made a video but @freshprinceceo has embarrassed himself recently and cause some minor drama. Apologies if some of this isn't 100%, I don't follow any of these people directly and only know about this because one of the youtubers I watch sometimes makes fun of Fresh & Fit.

Half of Fresh & Fit, Mr Fresh, has been caught simping for a thot he met on seeking arrangements (a sugar baby/sugar daddy website where ladies look for wealthy men). Now as you can imagine, given the Fresh & Fit brand is built entirely on high value man/red pill/MGTOW or whatever you want to call it """philisophy"""", this cause a bit of a stir. These guys made their career out of talking shit about how women are all sluts and they are alpha chads and one of them is now paying a thot to hang out with him

This shit is extremely autistic, there are multiple videos and streams so its a lot to work through but some points I've picked out

• Fresh has in the past sold himself as a high value man (whatever that is) and said some extremely embarrassing shit like he "wants to completely own a woman's soul" and he has "over 1,000 lays"
• He recently met a chick who has appeared on their podcast. He claims, she is special, they connected straight away, she isn't tainted like the sluts who live in Miami (where the podcast is based I believe)
• He gets jabs from guests about this, gets pressed on a podcast and looks like an absolute stuttering tard. Turns out they met for the first time on a yacht (the woman previously had no interest in meeting him) leading to questions about her intentions
• Someone found her profile on seeking arrangements and Fresh has been in full deflect mode. "We met before I knew she was on seeking", "She was only on there to talk to people because she was lonely", "I never paid her for anything, we're legit" etc.
• In fact, she was on seeking before they met, they met through seeking. He has been paying her (lol simp), begging her to show up on livestreams to defend his honour and giving her 50% of the superberries earned as payment

Here are some videos covering this mess

I think this shit is ongoing and people in the manosphere are still dunking on this guy.

The face of a nigga who has been utterly felted

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

A small update on this, its only really tangentially related to the Aba and Preach drama because they made a video but @freshprinceceo has embarrassed himself recently and cause some minor drama. Apologies if some of this isn't 100%, I don't follow any of these people directly and only know about this because one of the youtubers I watch sometimes makes fun of Fresh & Fit.

Half of Fresh & Fit, Mr Fresh, has been caught simping for a thot he met on seeking arrangements (a sugar baby/sugar daddy website where ladies look for wealthy men). Now as you can imagine, given the Fresh & Fit brand is built entirely on high value man/red pill/MGTOW or whatever you want to call it """philisophy"""", this cause a bit of a stir. These guys made their career out of talking shit about how women are all sluts and they are alpha chads and one of them is now paying a thot to hang out with him

This shit is extremely autistic, there are multiple videos and streams so its a lot to work through but some points I've picked out

• Fresh has in the past sold himself as a high value man (whatever that is) and said some extremely embarrassing shit like he "wants to completely own a woman's soul" and he has "over 1,000 lays"
• He recently met a chick who has appeared on their podcast. He claims, she is special, they connected straight away, she isn't tainted like the sluts who live in Miami (where the podcast is based I believe)
• He gets jabs from guests about this, gets pressed on a podcast and looks like an absolute stuttering tard. Turns out they met for the first time on a yacht (the woman previously had no interest in meeting him) leading to questions about her intentions
• Someone found her profile on seeking arrangements and Fresh has been in full deflect mode. "We met before I knew she was on seeking", "She was only on there to talk to people because she was lonely", "I never paid her for anything, we're legit" etc.
• In fact, she was on seeking before they met, they met through seeking. He has been paying her (lol simp), begging her to show up on livestreams to defend his honour and giving her 50% of the superberries earned as payment

Here are some videos covering this mess

I think this shit is ongoing and people in the manosphere are still dunking on this guy.

The face of a nigga who has been utterly felted
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I'm wondering how long it'll take his co-host to try and throw him under the bus in order to save face.

 

[Dona Morte]

When Oshay rants screen record that please.
He is notorious for having these freak outs

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

I'm wondering how long it'll take his co-host to try and throw him under the bus in order to save face.

They both are known to use seeking. They do it unashamedly. Rationalised as being the best way to accept women being hypergamous

 

[Stasi]

Fresh and faggot are so asshurt about people making fun of them they've gone on a spree of copyright striking a bunch of channels lmao

 

[Dona Morte]

21 studios speaks.
I love how he talks about RESULTS. Weather it is casual relationships or marriage with children it is PROFESSIONAL. I laughed out loud at the real men that slammed the pussies Myron and the other guy.

I also found this when looking at 21 studios one exposing Rollo Thomassi. AMAZING that these original "alpha males" are getting called out for not being shit.
@Stasi
Channels in question:

Spencer Cornelia - YouTube

archived 10 Dec 2021 01:01:37 UTC

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Sperg about Kevin Samuels.
I do not like that he is included with the "alpha males" because he had two failed marriages.

Spoiler

Kevin Samuel does talk about ethics but one thing I HATE about him is his: "married men with a family can sleep around."

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

Sperg about Kevin Samuels.
I do not like that he is included with the "alpha males" because he had two failed marriages.

Spoiler

Kevin Samuel does talk about ethics but one thing I HATE about him is his: "married men with a family can sleep around."

This is why I stopped watching Kevin Samuels. He's made some good points but all his talk about ethics went out the window when he started his whole "high value men cheat" spiel.

 

[Chocolate Wombat]

Fresh and Fit just tried to take down Aba & Preach with false copyright claims.

 

[Dona Morte]

Call in show.

They also tried this shit to a LAWYER.

He is live now.

 

[Salubrious]

This is why I stopped watching Kevin Samuels. He's made some good points but all his talk about ethics went out the window when he started his whole "high value men cheat" spiel.

I agree with this a bit. I also didn't like it when Kevin was talking to a young black man who was having trouble finding a woman and Kevin berated him as lazy for not wanting to leave Detroit. Like, I understand Kevin's basic point of "if you can't find what you want then go look somewhere else", but it's not so easy to literally leave behind everything and everyone you know in the hopes of maybe finding a wife and that you are lazy if you don't want to. To me, it shows just how Kevin's history of coming from a broken home still affects him that he thinks it's that easy to just pick up and leave.

In a way, it reminded me of Tim Pool's autistic screeching that "everyone that stays in a blue city is part of the problem."

 

[Dona Morte]

Mining the call in show chat a bit: