Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

Regarding Bekah ... Agree with other posters that saying you don't shave isn't really a revolutionary act any more. Shave, don't shave, whatever. Sure, someone may give you shit, but so what? If the worst thing you can say about someone is "she doesn't shave her armpits," that person would not have a KF thread.

But I don't think it's a coincidence that many "self-care"/"body positivity" behaviors, like rejecting shaving and eating a ton, are also behaviors that go with depression (in some cases) and pure laziness (in many others). When you're depressed, grooming and sensible eating are some of the first things to go. But being dirty, depressed, and overweight make them feel worse, so they try to cheer themselves up by showing off their bodies on Insta and talking about how beautiful they are.

Bekah might actually feel better if she did shave, wash, and buy underwear that fits. It feels good to take special care with your grooming--like you're fixing yourself up instead of letting yourself rust.
 
I think a lot of people conflate being provocative and sexy with "beauty" when they're very different things. In the real word (American here, tho. lol) there are plenty of people with partners fatter and uglier than the other because, as corny and stupid as it sounds at some point "Beauty" is something that can be, and is very often subjective.

The Fats Of the Internet are Shut-Ins who do photo ops for the vlogs and blogs. They dont have a healthy network of friends. so they only operate on Television and Film rules. Inevitably, they all end up having these SUPER SHALLOW ideas of how things actually work. Confidence is a Hot Girl who takes off her glasses and dresses in a Mini Dress.
I think "being good looking" is more of a concern when you're a kid. Once you start pushing 30 (never mind older) everybody's standards drop considerably. We're all starting to sag, you get gray hairs, a beer belly, stretch marks...you stop judging people for meaningless shit. A girl with pit hair? Why would I care, I'm a fucking adult. Pits? I got hair coming out of my fucking ears man. I think most men have this attitude also, and if they don't why would you want their attention anyway? Why do you need the approval of shallow idiots?

You're right though, I think a lot of this is just the media fucking with young women's heads. That's nothing new, back in the 90's there was a direct correlation between models getting skinnier and skinnier and eating disorders in young women. I think some people just never got over that. And I think especially if you don't interact with actual, non-asshole, adult men that often it can be hard to realize that your typical guy is actually way more forgiving sexually then we get credit for. Hell I'd fuck a drain pipe if it was lubricated.
 
I realized that most men care a lot less about body hair than women think. It is usually women judging other women heavily for how they look. Women have always made sure other women adhere to societal ideas of womanhood much better than men could ever do. This whole forum is proof of that.

Bekkah clearly rejects self-care but by eating like shit/gaining a 100 lbs and not seeking adequate help for her trauma while exposing herself to judgement online in a clearly masochistic way. Let her have her tiny act of rebellion if it makes her feel safer as long as she is not ready to face her trauma. Edit: Let's hope she realizes what she does before she irreversibly damages her body or dies.

Shaving is not required for hygiene or health. Some women hate it and if you don't enjoy it it is not positive self-care at all but a chore that takes up time that could be better spend and the only people who really care are other women and assholes who watch too much porn or hentai.
 
Your reaction to Bekkah's picture is exactly why women post their body hair on the internet as an act of empowerment and feminism. Because people get ridiculously upset and offended by them doing it and thus it makes them feel empowered and it gives them attention.

LOOK AT MY HAIRY PITS! LOOK AT THEM!!!! DO THEY MAKE YOU ANGRY!? BIGOT!!!!!!!

Bekkah feeling empowerment by growing out her armpit hair is the least of her problems.

I see Bekah growing out her armpit hair and I think, "That you're too depressed to manage normal personal grooming doesn't make you a rebel against the patriarchy." And even if it's not due to depression, it's a real Baby's First Middle-finger to the Patriarchy sort of thing. Young women have been doing it for over 50 years, at this point; she's hardly doing anything radical, which she would know if she looked beyond her own (deeply-inverted) navel.

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Physics is fat phobic.

It's a trap for sure (that's why we bitch about her on Kiwifarms and not on her sad Instagram). Her wall of text was fucking ridiculous. She's not being oppressed because she's a woman or because she's fat and I have a hard time believing she was raised to "not speak out".

Bekah has a law degree. A LAW DEGREE, and from a well-regarded program. That's not a course of study women pursue when they've grown up internalizing messages against speaking out.

As far as I can tell, she's doing fuck all nothing with that degree, but she lives in a society where she was simultaneously encouraged to pursue it, and at the same time is largely above criticism for not working in the field because she's too emotionally delicate. She gets all the benefits of being treated as a competent woman and as a fragile infant.

Choosing the fragile infant path is only going to come back and bite her on the ass later in life (and its doing her no genuine favors even now), but that's not the patriarchy's fault; it's the fault of the strain of feminism she's infected with, in which women are to be regarded as strong and worthy of respect even when they've slipped into the comforting trap of weakness, fragility, and dependency.

Social media has been a disaster, but especially so for young women like Bekah who are bright and capable of making genuine contributions to the world—only to get mired in an online community that preys upon their anxieties about (and childish dissatisfactions with) assuming adult responsibilities, that makes weakness their source of power, that encourages their most self-defeating habits and inclinations, and that allows them to cultivate an unwarranted grievances and imagined oppressions.

I still find it absurd how fatties whine about bmi requirements for surgery. How do you not understand that trying to do surgery when you have several inches of excess fat covering the organ just makes things exponentially more difficult to perform safely? You don't need to be a doctor to understand this, it's a pretty intuitive concept.

The one that gets me is when they're refused joint-replacement surgery. Here they are, having destroyed the original joint by overloading it and forcing it out of its natural alignment, and they expect they will get fine and dandy results from the replacements?

They create their own troubles and misery, and expect others to willingly undo it for them, without judgment and without expectation they will change the behaviors that got them there in the first place. And then they claim oppression when others refuse? Yeah, that's going to gain you loads of sympathy.

What I don't understand about this type of person is the notion that "self confidence" always means "being half naked in public".

A trend I've noticed since this kind of shit took over the internet back in 2015 or so: the fatter and more lumpy you are the more likely you are to be walking around with your tits and ass hanging out. Oh sure, I see plenty of hot women walking around scantily clad. But they are dwarfed by the numbers of actually gross hambeasts who walk around in public essentially naked. I really don't understand this. This isn't being confident, it's being lewd for the sake of being lewd. Nobody wants to see your ass. Like if I went into the store with a banana hammock the guy behind the counter would probably tell me to get the fuck out.

I'm an oldfag, so I've seen the long shift in feminist thinking from "women don't have to dress to please men!" and "I am not a sex object!" to "I can dress as slutty as I want, and you're still supposed to respect me!"

That said, I can get why young, hot women go around in skimpy clothes. They get something out of it, and for a brief time in their lives it gives them a certain kind of power, so hey, if it works for you, go for it.

But fatties doing it? I swear, it's a childish thing of, "Well, if you get to do that, so do I!" Childishness seems to be the mental hallmark of deathfats; they're perennially stuck in "I want!", all appetite, with no ability to understand consequences, or how others might view them. If all the skinny girls get to wear cute clothes, then they should, too. If those same skinny girls attract hot men, then the fatties shouldn't have to settle. If the occasional skinny person they encounter puts away a mountain of food in one sitting, then fats should be allowed to do the same thing.

Now that I think about it, most of the entitled deathfats we discuss here grew up during a period (still ongoing) where all the kids in a class or other social grouping had to be included in everything, as equally as possible—nobody could be excluded, and nobody could go home without a prize. If you had a birthday party, you had to invite all the kids in your class, even the ones you didn't like. There have been abortive attempts in some schools to forbid children from having best friends, because that relationship is, by its very nature, exclusionary, and might make some kids feel left out. The key thing here is that nobody was to be left out, for any reason; it's the mindset behind participation trophies.

It's a shit way to bring up kids because they never have to learn to deal with exclusion and rejection, or being on an unequal footing to others. It allows kids to keep on with whatever annoying and repellent traits they may have, without social consequence, so they never learn, "When you do that, people don't like it, and don't want to be around you." It also buffers them from knowledge of what they need to improve, if they are to be well-liked and wanted.

Granted a school or social setting can't completely shelter kids from being left out, but if the dominant message coming from adults in authority is, "Everybody is just as good as everybody else, and leaving them out is unfair," kids are going to internalize that as the way the world ought to work—especially the kids who are most likely to be left out. Which is, I would venture, how we have ended up with so many entitled incel males and entitled fatty females, who cannot accept that life is not fair, that you might have to work really hard for what you want, and that if you want others to like and accept—or maybe even desire—you, you have to bring something worthwhile to the table.

And then of course you get the social media echo chambers for these teenagers and young adults, disappointed and dismayed that there are no more participation trophies and enforced social inclusion for them once they graduate middle school, and that once they're out of high school they're completely on their own, with nobody to call upon when somebody calls them a spaz or a fatty, or otherwise doesn't keep up the pleasant illusion that everybody is just as special as everybody else, and deserves just as much respect.

Yeah, nobody should be made to feel like shit because they're overweight. Americans load everything with trans fats and corn syrup, of course we have a fucking obesity problem. But that doesn't mean you need to go in the opposite direction, give up on the idea of being healthy, and then let everything hang out because "fuck you, I'm sexy!".

I'm all for granting social politeness to fatties out in public, or in superficial relationships, because I try not to be an asshole, and there is no good that comes from being gratuitously mean to people. If you find being openly mean to people just because they're fat satisfying, there is something really fucking wrong with you. A favorite video on v/fph was a guy who followed fat people around in public while playing a tuba—that guy was an asshole. The world is cruel and hard as it is; don't be an asshole. We have too goddamned many of them as it is.

But you can also make it clear to fatties you know well that you have no interest in enabling them or entertaining their excuses, when they try to enlist you in that. They're responsible for everything they put in their own damned mouths, and you're not doing them any favors by pretending that their consoling fictions are anything but that. You can still draw that boundary and hold that line without being an asshole.
 
I realized that most men care a lot less about body hair than women think. It is usually women judging other women heavily for how they look. Women have always made sure other women adhere to societal ideas of womanhood much better than men could ever do. This whole forum is proof of that.
It's a consequence of a lot of women not understanding men in the same way that a lot of men really don't understand women. You know, how many bullshit threads exist on the internet of young men basically saying over and over again that they don't know what women "want"? A lot of guys legitimately have no idea what women are attracted to, and they end up building up a "solution" to that issue by looking at the media. I figure a lot of women do the same thing, they see hyper-idealized images on TV and assume this is the standard that men accept. That and female sexuality is a lot more...ambiguous, I guess. You ask guys what they're into and usually they say something like "big tits". You ask women and it's always something like "well, I just like the way he carries himself, ya know?".

I think there's just a failure of understanding here that just makes people run for the media for answers, and then naturally it fucks them up.
 
What does red hair have to do with anything?
Redheads and near-redheads (think red-brunette with freckles; the key is that the person produces more pheomelanin than eumelanin) have something weird going on with their pain receptors and their reactions to anesthesia and we still don't know exactly why or how it works. What we do know:
  • They need about 20% more anesthesia before they're knocked out
  • They're resistant to things like lidocaine, so they need more for it to be an effective painkiller
  • They're more responsive to analgesics, so they need less for it to be effective
  • They're more sensitive to changes in temperature
  • They're less sensitive to needle pricks, small cuts like cat scratches, and stinging pain
So to bring this back to the fatties, if we assume Bekah is a true redhead (which it looks like from her old photos) then she's going to need more anesthetic in case of surgery, but then you add in her obesity and it gets worse because doctors don't know if it's better to dose people based on their actual weight.
During general anesthesia, this is probably close enough. During conscious sedation, close may cross the line between hypoventilation and apnea. But why not do the best job we can? We want our patients to be unconscious, immobile, and hemodynamically stable during anesthesia. We want them to awaken promptly, yet comfortably, after anesthesia. Even if close is close enough, why not adjust the dose for weight, age, gender, organ function, and type of surgery? Much research has been done to understand how patient factors such as age, gender, and weight relate to the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of thiopental, [2,3]fentanyl and alfentanil, [4]sufentanil, [5]propofol, [6]and remifentanil, [7]to give just a few examples.

At a minimum, we should at least adjust adult doses to weight. Many package inserts, including those of propofol and remifentanil, explicitly provide per-kilogram adult-dosing guidelines. Doesn't this tell us that the drugs should be given per kilogram of body weight? That is the message, but it may be wrong.

Egan et al. [1]administered remifentanil to obese patients and nonobese control patients. To estimate pharmacokinetic parameters for an extended period, the authors chose a remifentanil dose that was large, 10 [micro sign]g/kg during 1 min, but that had been well tolerated in his previous studies with nonobese persons. This dose proved to be a big mistake in large persons. Two of the first three patients had profound bradycardia associated with hypotension, necessitating a change in protocol to reduce the dose for subsequent patients. Yet this was a setting in which we think opioid overdoses are well tolerated: the paralyzed, intubated, and ventilated patient.
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So to bring this back to the fatties, if we assume Bekah is a true redhead (which it looks like from her old photos)

Bekah's not a redhead. In her older pics, before she started packing on weight and fucking with her hair, she was a cool-toned brunette, with no freckles; not even a tinge of the ginge, as Tim Mincin would put it.
 
Redheads and near-redheads (think red-brunette with freckles; the key is that the person produces more pheomelanin than eumelanin) have something weird going on with their pain receptors and their reactions to anesthesia and we still don't know exactly why or how it works. What we do know:
  • They need about 20% more anesthesia before they're knocked out
  • They're resistant to things like lidocaine, so they need more for it to be an effective painkiller
  • They're more responsive to analgesics, so they need less for it to be effective
  • They're more sensitive to changes in temperature
  • They're less sensitive to needle pricks, small cuts like cat scratches, and stinging pain
So to bring this back to the fatties, if we assume Bekah is a true redhead (which it looks like from her old photos) then she's going to need more anesthetic in case of surgery, but then you add in her obesity and it gets worse because doctors don't know if it's better to dose people based on their actual weight.

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Well I don't want to PL but as a red head, that may explain a few things in my med history and I never knew this until now. Thanks.
 
Women absolutely do get a lot of shit for body hair. That said I'm a fucking adult, once you're over the age of 25 if you still care about that shit you're just a straight up moron and nothing you say or think matters anyway. Nobody needs the approval of the stupid and immature.

It's funny though, because looking at that picture she's really not ugly or anything. She's like normal chubby. Got some stretch marks but whatever. Is this what makes us angry these days?
That's the obesity epidemic warping your perspective. She's not 'normal chubby' to me. Her stretch marks outside of puberty or pregnancy are proof of that- rapid weight gain has her skin giving signs of 'ouch, bad!'
 
That's the obesity epidemic warping your perspective. She's not 'normal chubby' to me. Her stretch marks outside of puberty or pregnancy are proof of that- rapid weight gain has her skin giving signs of 'ouch, bad!'
I think I described her body as "excruciating" once in this thread. I almost can't blame her for being like she is. She has to be miserable.

(And no, she is not "normal chubby". She's also young, healthy, and has not had children. There's no legitimate reason why she should have gained so much so fast that she'd develop those angry purple-red stretch marks on her gut.)
 
Also, I think why a lot of these feminist women are ugly, hairy, and unwashed, is that they are trying to keep men away from them....But what they don't know, is that, there are men (and some LGBT women) who get off to filth and foul odors. So, they will attract men either way, just the fetish creeps who see these female filth potatoes as a dick stiffener, and nothing else.

If it exists, there is a kink/fetish for it. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Sadly enough.
 
I think I described her body as "excruciating" once in this thread. I almost can't blame her for being like she is. She has to be miserable.

(And no, she is not "normal chubby". She's also young, healthy, and has not had children. There's no legitimate reason why she should have gained so much so fast that she'd develop those angry purple-red stretch marks on her gut.)
She claimed that she was raped/molested. Maybe this caused her cow behaviour.
 
Expecting people not to weigh 100 elbees more than their frame is supposed to carry is super ableist and uNreAliStiC you guyz!

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They wouldn't be cows, if they realized how fucking retarded the shit they post is.
 
April just dropped a new video. What is this movement? I have never seen it in any gym.
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And we can get a nice look at her four boobs. Investing in a proper bh has less priority than buying ugly neon gym clothes
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The comments make me lose more faith in humanity. I want to just believe they're AI-generate text being tested by the CCP. These people are like children talking to Steve from Blue's Clues.
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Aaaah! Snag Tights, stop shoving this fucking advert at me!

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Their advertising is horrendous and actually puts me off. Which is shame because their tights are actually really a better fit than a lot of high street ones - you can customise leg length and rise to an extent, so if you’ve got long legs, tall, short, or a high rise they’re pretty good. They shouldn’t just market to fat though, they create an impression only for fat. Poor marketing tbh.
I had to look at her food so you have to too.
What… what IS this? Slow cooker? It looks like dog food that’s been compressed to the density of a neutron star.
Well I don't want to PL but as a red head, that may explain a few things in my med history and I never knew this until now. Thanks.
Yeah redheads have different pain responses. no return explains it perfectly. Let me put it this way - if you ever need a spinal, make sure you really are numb before you let them get busy with the scalpels.
 
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