Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Vecr]

Reddit's like, "Anti-Vaxers gonna be moving the goalposts!"

I'm not sure what to think of this. I'd decided that if we got two years into the vaccination program, and people were generally handling it well, and the witch hunts had died down, and there's clear data saying the vaccine would improve upon my natural Covid antibodies, then I'd get it. Do I care about what the FDA thinks? How is their track record with approvals and safety? Did they approve thamaldahyde and if so, how is this safer?

They did approved thalidomide in 1998, but with strict precautions for women. It's initial approval was blocked, but only by one person, so they almost didn't catch the problem.

 

[Terrifik]

https://twitter.com/HadasThier/status/1429813993519079430

 

[PurpleEater]

I'm waiting for them to "discover" that dogs and cats carry and transmit the virus and start demanding people kill their pets. "Do you want to be a murderer? It's either Fido or Grandma!"

People still might not be quite cucked enough for that just yet though.

This was featured on Shark Tank last year:

 

[teriyakiburns]

I see "no more excuses" trending on Twitter.

The FDA approved thalidomide.

They also have a habit of approving shit that causes more harm than it claims to cure.

Risky Drugs: Why The FDA Cannot Be Trusted | Edmond J. Safra Center f…

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Risky Drugs: Why The FDA Cannot Be Trusted

by Donald W. Light A forthcoming article for the special issue of the Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics (JLME), edited by Marc Rodwin and supported by the Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics, presents evidence that about 90 percent of all new drugs approved by the FDA over the past 30 years are...

ethics.harvard.edu

Regulatory agencies in other countries are no different.

 

[Vecr]

The FDA approved thalidomide.

They also have a habit of approving shit that causes more harm than it claims to cure.

Not until 1998, and by that time they knew enough to put strict precautions on it's use.

Frances Oldham Kelsey - Wikipedia

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[borsabil]

So what did I learn today here in the people's Republic of Victoria? That puppers are collateral damage for the great war against the Covid , a cunning enemy who will turn our affection for cute puppies and use it to infect us with literal airborne AIDS!

The Chairman of the ruling party announced today, and it broke his heart to say this, that kindergartens were just too high risk and had to close, children were literally keeling over and projectile vomiting at school from the coof (all the schools are closed but never mind....details). The government assures us that literal babies are in the ICU with Covid, I don't know but I'm thinking they might be setting the public up for something?

Here is the current data out of Australia

We're currently at 1000 cases per day and rising, significantly worse than the Melbourne outbreak in 2020.

Here's the death rate. No not you're not imagining things. At the peak of the last outbreak around 40-60 people a day were dying, this outbreak? 2- 3 per day. A case fatality rate 20 times less. The Delta variant has a mortality rate around half of the seasonal flu. And for THIS my government has shut down our entire country, I'm placed under a curfew, all businesses and schools are closed and I will likely be vaccinated at the point of a gun the way things are going. Can someone please tell me what the fuck is going on?

 

[Vault Boy]

Unironically let this nothing-burger of a fucking disease rip on the populace and let the chips fall where they may. I'm so beyond giving a single solitary fuck about the collateral damage, "delta-variant" or otherwise.

I honestly think the world wouldn't have gotten so fucked up if "experts" and politicians treated this like a flu. Maybe more old people would've died, but at least their families wouldn't be on the brink of financial ruin, nor would their grandchildren suffer from worse education or stunted development.

Old people lived their lives, why should the young be forced to have their futures get ruined to "save grandma"?

 

[Dysnomia]

Propaganda USA Today claims there's a push for jab mandates (and adds that they reduce coof cases of course).

I hope they don't make the things mandatory for everyone, or they really do become a mark of the beast thing.

I need surgery and I don't want to be told that I need the vaccine first.

Funny how "my body, my choice" is quickly negated when need be. If they're worried about spreading COVID, just shut the shit down. Vaccinated can spread it just like the unvaccinated, and proof of negative test isn't enforced for everybody.

Both Corey Taylor and Melissa Joan Hart were vaccinated and still got very sick.

I keep reading about tours cancelled/postponed because vaccinated band or crew was positive.

https://blabbermouth.net/news/tesla...-have-not-been-able-to-move-all-week-in-pain/

Also vaxxed. Still got very sick.

We'll keep seeing more of this and the people whining about how the unvaccinated are ruining live events. But if you make vaccinations mandatory to attend and people still get sick... Well you can't blame the unvaccinated anymore can you?

Concerts and sporting events are super spreader events. Some of these musicians are really getting up there and quite a few are out of shape. Do you want a breakthrough infection to kill your favorite artist?

 

[PittyKitty]

Reddit's like, "Anti-Vaxers gonna be moving the goalposts!"

I'm not sure what to think of this. I'd decided that if we got two years into the vaccination program, and people were generally handling it well, and the witch hunts had died down, and there's clear data saying the vaccine would improve upon my natural Covid antibodies, then I'd get it. Do I care about what the FDA thinks? How is their track record with approvals and safety? Did they approve thamaldahyde and if so, how is this safer?

FDA approved means shit
Ffs idk why doesn't work. Just in case if it didn't insert the link again https://archive.is/8FUZ6

 

[MichaelScarn]

From the Boston Globe
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[Protistology]

breakthrough infection

It's ADE. There is no test for ADE. ADE is diagnosed based on the status of the control group to the medication, but there is no control group for the Covid vaccines...

The vaccines increase the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, you prevent it by taking the booster to protect against symptoms when the vaccine wears off, the booster increases the risk of ADE, etc.

That's how you create lifetime customers of your drug company out of healthy people, like the transsexual lobby.

 

[JustSomeDong]

Full "Approval" for posterity. Its a fun read. Remember this when you see a thousand headlines about "FULL APPROVAL TRUST THE SCIENCE NOW!" friends. Remember to trust the journalists, those sacred guardians of truth, for surely they read these things before they blast headlines, right?

 

[NoSpiceLife]

I just saw this posted on twitter.

Can someone explain what the fuck they have done, this is too confusing, they say approval in the first paragraph:

On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older.

...and then reissue in the next paragraph, which is the screenshot!

Oh and the bolded part in the quote, how does that work, when it doesn't prevent or immunise?

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

I have the opposite problem: I have a big boy, professional job with a degree and certifications and shit. But I'm in the wrong area for this industry (I got VERY lucky with this one) and I'm pretty sure I'd only be delaying the inevitable.

You missed my point, I also have a degree, I'm walking away from what I thought was going to be my career for life because I won't capitulate to this bullshit. I know I'm resourceful enough to do well for myself even if I have to start over from scratch. I imagine if you were able to graduate college into what I assume is a well respected profession you are also most likely resourceful enough to start over from scratch. Don't delude yourself into thinking once you've jumped through this hoop they'll leave you alone, making cheddar is nice, but its not worth your dignity.

I wonder if my company will mandate it too. I have some savings, and I consider just let them fire me, after all my possibilities will not go through (things like religious exemption etc.) For now we work remotely, and they offer testing if you are not vaxxed, but this might change soon.

I consider finding another job completely remote, for less pay for sure, but at least something to survive on through the worst. I expect the situation getting much worse in fall-winter this year.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

F. Pfizer Inc. will report to Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS): •Serious adverse events (irrespective of attribution to vaccination);•Cases of Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in children and adults; and•Cases of COVID-19 that result in hospitalization or death, that are reported to Pfizer Inc. These reports should be submitted to VAERS as soon as possible but no later than 15 calendar days from initial receipt of the information by Pfizer Inc.

How the fuck is this supposed to happen, when Pfizer has in their contracts that no country can declare adverse effects from the vaccine for 10+ years?

 

[JustSomeDong]

How the fuck is this supposed to happen, when Pfizer has in their contracts that no country can declare adverse effects from the vaccine for 10+ years?

Trust da science

 

[Derka Derka]

I honestly think the world wouldn't have gotten so fucked up if "experts" and politicians treated this like a flu. Maybe more old people would've died, but at least their families wouldn't be on the brink of financial ruin, nor would their grandchildren suffer from worse education or stunted development.

Old people lived their lives, why should the young be forced to have their futures get ruined to "save grandma"?

Or maybe government should focus on the people at risk, like grandma.

 

[UVB-76]

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From the Boston Globe
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This stuff is being written by algorithm as this point, just throw in climate change and racism while they're at it.
I predicted almost every outcome in this massive psyop last year too, where's the articles dedicated to my schizo ramblings?

 

[Kramer on the phone]

i can't wait to see standardized test scores in blue states that force elementary schoolers to wear masks versus red states outright banning school districts from pulling that shit

i mean florida almost won every major championship last year because of COVID, so the facts are clearly well known, theres a shitload of people that got 5x their money betting aganist college basketball teams that played the same 4 teams this season pre-MM, realizing the algorithms would never account for it. and even unders have been hitting consistantly the last year and a half because of how badly things are going because of COVID, if i had to take a guess, its way more than one or two grade levels behind and more like an entire standard deviation.

I honestly think the world wouldn't have gotten so fucked up if "experts" and politicians treated this like a flu. Maybe more old people would've died, but at least their families wouldn't be on the brink of financial ruin, nor would their grandchildren suffer from worse education or stunted development.

Old people lived their lives, why should the young be forced to have their futures get ruined to "save grandma"?

does the flu kill off 1/4 of anyone over the age of 80 it infects? if every flu season anyone in their 70s with it was playing russian roulette i'm sure we would have heard about that by now.

 

[Salubrious]

The FDA approved thalidomide.

They also have a habit of approving shit that causes more harm than it claims to cure.

https://archive.md/q1vpC

Risky Drugs: Why The FDA Cannot Be Trusted

by Donald W. Light A forthcoming article for the special issue of the Journal of Law, Medicine and Ethics (JLME), edited by Marc Rodwin and supported by the Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics, presents evidence that about 90 percent of all new drugs approved by the FDA over the past 30 years are...

ethics.harvard.edu

Regulatory agencies in other countries are no different.

Advice to readers: Experienced, independent physicians recommend not to take a new drug approved by the FDA until it is out for 7 years, unless you have to, so that evidence can accumulate about its real harms and benefits.

Hold on, let me do some math....

...nope, hasn't been seven years yet.

Here's the death rate. No not you're not imagining things. At the peak of the last outbreak around 40-60 people a day were dying, this outbreak? 2- 3 per day. A case fatality rate 20 times less. The Delta variant has a mortality rate around half of the seasonal flu. And for THIS my government has shut down our entire country, I'm placed under a curfew, all businesses and schools are closed and I will likely be vaccinated at the point of a gun the way things are going. Can someone please tell me what the fuck is going on?

Fun fact, here is Florida's daily deaths graph:



TL;DR - People will look at Florida's numbers and just conclude that Florida HAS to be lying. That's their justification in their minds; any data they don't agree with is wrong.