US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

How many pressers today? Five?

Is that a record?

 

[Oats12345]

Jen Psaki says she wouldn't say Americans are "stranded" in Afghanistan

Well than I would love to ask her this. Than what do you call people stuck in a place and have no why to get out than?

It's going to get crazy if Taliban starts killing Americans

Psaki "I wouldn't say Americans have been murdered in Afghanistan"

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Well than I would love to ask her this. Than what do you call people stuck in a place and have no why to get out than?

It's going to get crazy if Taliban starts killing Americans

Psaki "I wouldn't say Americans have been murdered in Afghanistan"

I wouldn't say you and the entire Biden Admin have any intelligence but here we are, Jen.

 

[draggs]

Well than I would love to ask her this. Than what do you call people stuck in a place and have no why to get out than?

It's going to get crazy if Taliban starts killing Americans

Psaki "I wouldn't say Americans have been murdered in Afghanistan"

"The Taliban are being inclusive by including those Americans in the biggest group of people ever - dead people."

 

[BeboRefugee]

Except this wasn't Trumps plan. If Trump had won the US would already be out and I guarantee the plan wasn't to have thousands of US civilians stranded behind what is effectively enemy lines, it wasn't to piss off the brits by endangering the same SAS guys who've been bleeding alongside socom (I can only imagine there's some angry/embarassed operators over that in particular).

Why are you using deductive reasoning skills to explain the rationale of people who aren't using theirs?

We both know Trump would have committed to the May 1st deal, but no one who is doing damage control on Joe Biden's behalf has a coherent answer for why he would arbitrarily and unilaterally extend the deadline in the way it was done. Why? Because there's no way to justify it!
It's inconvenient, so it's easier to not think too hard about the implications. That, or pull the cheap line out that the withdrawal would've always concluded disastrously no matter who was President (again, freeing Biden of any agency or responsibility).

 

[FlappyBat]

sorry bitch, you got me into full lawtism. There is an actual doctrine that ostensibly prevents governments from employing private actors to implement their policies, but as with all common law, the rules are all so poorly defined (i.e. ad libbed) that there's no coherent standard outside of the grab bag of possible factors that previous judges (or more likely talented appeals lawyers) have thought up.

The take away I have is we're quickly learning that that legal doctrine isn't sufficient to handle what we're going through. We can handle when the government pays a corporation to do some shit, but that isn't the important issue we as a society are facing right now.

If no one is going around libeling people, you don't need a well developed legal doctrine around defamation. If corporations aren't acting on behalf of the government regularly or taking on roles previously only handled by the government you don't need to have well developed checks against it. When those things change, the law needs to as well.

 

[soy_king]

The take away I have is we're quickly learning that that legal doctrine isn't sufficient to handle what we're going through. We can handle when the government pays a corporation to do some shit, but that isn't the important issue we as a society are facing right now.

If no one is going around libeling people, you don't need a well developed legal doctrine around defamation. If corporations aren't acting on behalf of the government regularly or taking on roles previously only handled by the government you don't need to have well developed checks against it. When those things change, the law needs to as well.

Pretty much. The good thing about the law is that it is capable of adjusting, and has before. The problem is the people in charge of furthering reforms to the system are either self-serving pricks like Biden or ideologues from the neolib and neocon schools, and some lolberts thrown in for good measure.

 

[Dona Morte]

I think all of us are overthinking this situation as Occam's Razor usually fits.
Afghanistan what is the simplest explanation.
Galvanization of the public behind the administration to come back in because of mass death/ hostage crisis?
Remember these people do not give two shits about American troops/ assets/ lives.
Thoughts?

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

At this point, this is literally me every time Kamala “laughs”:

 

[In Memoriam]

I think all of us are overthinking this situation as Occam's Razor usually fits.
Afghanistan what is the simplest explanation.
Galvanization of the public behind the administration to come back in because of mass death/ hostage crisis?
Remember these people do not give two shits about American troops/ assets/ lives.
Thoughts?

They might be hoping to spin it that way, but I don’t think the average American plans to let them. People are *pissed* about this one.

 

[Dona Morte]

They might be hoping to spin it that way, but I don’t think the average American plans to let them. People are *pissed* about this one.

Is everyone?
The average college latte drinking "student" just wants to perpetually go to college while smoking bong rips in the tennis court.

 

[Billy Beer]

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They are already scared of that possibility, and dropping flares taking off.

Military jets evacuating Afghans drop flares amid fears of ISIS

US military planes are doing rapid diving combat landings at Kabul airport to beat the threat of a missile attack, with video showing a French jet deploying flares designed to confuse heat-seeking technology.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is standard procedure and has been since at least 2009. Fly in high, drop low, fast, while banging out the flares to avoid small arms fire

 

[Dona Morte]

This is standard procedure and has been since at least 2009. Fly in high, drop low, fast, while banging out the flares to avoid small arms fire

So the assumption is hot zone evacs?
So no the airport is NOT safe or secure.
Well, I vote we deploy our new "woke" recruits.

 

[Billy Beer]

So the assumption is hot zone evacs?
So no the airport is NOT safe or secure.
Well, I vote we deploy our new "woke" recruits.

Loose lips sink ships so i have to be careful what to say.

Flights always happened during the night/at night time, because the ragheads only had small arms and RPG's, neither could be stopped by flares. On the off chance that someone with a manpad was looking, flares were fired.

It is a hot zone, but i would say the procedure being followed is merely precaution because a few flares are worth much less than an aircraft and crew.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

At this point, this is literally me every time Kamala “laughs”:

oh great, both of them are callous, unfeeling psychopaths about the people they ostensibly lead and don't even bother to hide it. I mean, that was already a thing known of copmala, but it's nice to see it confirmed this plainly for everyone to see again.

 

[Potatoherder]

I think all of us are overthinking this situation as Occam's Razor usually fits.
Afghanistan what is the simplest explanation.
Galvanization of the public behind the administration to come back in because of mass death/ hostage crisis?
Remember these people do not give two shits about American troops/ assets/ lives.
Thoughts?

Honestly the way the Taliban have played it the likelihood of them doing mass killings or taking hostages of non-afghans is super unlikely. The Taliban want nato military forces out of their country as fast as possible and it'd be a win-win if they allow their allies to help with evacuations. I can fully see the Taliban calling in their new friends the Chinese/Russians to evacuate people if/when the US fails. It would be a massive PR loss for the US and will further entrench the fallen empire narrative.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Loose lips sink ships so i have to be careful what to say.

Flights always happened during the night/at night time, because the ragheads only had small arms and RPG's, neither could be stopped by flares. On the off chance that someone with a manpad was looking, flares were fired.

It is a hot zone, but i would say the procedure being followed is merely precaution because a few flares are worth much less than an aircraft and crew.

Or a braying mob

 

[The Last Stand]

At this point, this is literally me every time Kamala “laughs”:

I'd love to see her laugh when shit hits the fan for her involvement in this administration.

Jen Psaki says she wouldn't say Americans are "stranded" in Afghanistan

Oh wait: "Don't PIN this shit on me!" They're just staying.

 

[Meat Target]

Jen Psaki says she wouldn't say Americans are "stranded" in Afghanistan

Oh? What would she call it then, a vacation?

That's like saying "It's not a bug, its a feature!"

They're temporarily delayed.

Well than I would love to ask her this. Than what do you call people stuck in a place and have no why to get out than?

It's going to get crazy if Taliban starts killing Americans

Psaki "I wouldn't say Americans have been murdered in Afghanistan"

They've been culturally enriched

 

[Feline Supremacist]

sorry bitch, you got me into full lawtism. There is an actual doctrine that ostensibly prevents governments from employing private actors to implement their policies, but as with all common law, the rules are all so poorly defined (i.e. ad libbed) that there's no coherent standard outside of the grab bag of possible factors that previous judges (or more likely talented appeals lawyers) have thought up.

Letters of marque are a thing, its defined in the Constitution but maybe you're thinking of something else?