FDA Approves Pfizer Vaccine 23/08/2021

Bad news for the Vaccine Hesitant crowd. Time for your Fauci Ouchies. LMFAO


Update (1100ET): The Pentagon's press secretary has just confirmed that - as expected - the DoD will now require all troops across the armed services to get the vaccine.


Troops who refuse the vaccine could face "disciplinary" measures, including being dragged in front of a military tribunal that would mete out punishment. Commanders have several options for dealing with troops who refuse mandatory COVID-19 vaccines including issuing them a letter of reprimand or taking other administrative action; using nonjudicial punishment to push them to get vaccinated; referring troops to an administrative separation board for failure to obey an order, or even referring service members to courts-martial, which has already happened in the past when some troops refused to get vaccinated for Anthrax.

"We have every expectation that once the vaccines are made mandatory the troops are going to do the right thing," Kirby told reporters at a Pentagon news conference a few weeks ago. "But, without speaking to the future, it’s treated, certainly, like any lawful order, and there could be administrative and disciplinary repercussions for failing to obey that order."

The DoD also make sure that service members who have reservations about getting a COVID-19 vaccine are "properly counseled" about the risks to their personal health and their unit’s readiness that could arise from them refusing the jab, and that commanders have a "range of tools" to pressure troops to comply.

"Commanders have a range of tools, short of using the UCMJ [Uniform Code of Military Justice] available to them to try to help individuals make the right decisions," Kirby added.

Similar mandates are expected in the private sector as well, with companies like Wal-Mart, along with thousands of smaller businesses, expected to require proof of vaccination for all workers.

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Roughly 8 months after the Pfizer-BioNTech jab was first approved for public use after receiving an unprecedented emergency authorization, the jab has officially become the first to receive full approval by the FDA on Monday, the Washington Post reports.

The news, which was telegraphed days in advance, sent shares of Pfizer and BioNTech surging shortly after the open on Monday.





As the mainstream media immediately pointed out, the approval might prompt some skeptical adults to take the vaccine, while giving businesses the last piece of ammunition they needed to require workers to get the jab, or be fired. According to the CDC, 204MM Pfizer jabs (which will henceforth be known as Comirnaty, the official brand name of the jab) have been doled out since the emergency authorization was first handed down last December.

The vaccine is officially approved for Americans over the age of 16, while the emergency authorization remains in effect for patients between 12 and 15. Notably, the FDA is requiring Pfizer to conduct more research on the risks of myocarditis and pericarditis and other potential side effects. Pfizer will also develop a registry to help monitor outcomes for infants after vaccinated women give birth.

CNBC reports that a survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation found 3 in 10 unvaccinated adults said they would be more likely to get vaccinated if one of the vaccines receives full approval. Full approval is "more psychological than anything else,” said Dr. Paul Offit, a voting member of the agency’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. "I mean you already have more than 320MM doses administered. The vaccines already have an enormous safety and efficacy profile."

"The FDA will do what it thinks it needs to do to make sure that the American public is safe," he said.

Initially, full authorization was expected to arrive in September, but the Biden Administration has ramped up the pressure in recent days. Full approval opens the door to several activities that were barred under the emergency authorization: Pfizer can now advertise the jab, and it can now continue to vaccinate people even after the COVID "emergency" is deemed over. Pfizer can also now raise the price of the vaccine. They have already raised the price of the jab in the EU.

Pfizer and BioNTech have both said they intend to generate billions of dollars in revenues (and likely profits) from sales of the jab.

As vaccine proponents celebrate the news, Alex Berenson, a prominent skeptic, has a question: how can a vaccine be fully approved when we don't even know the optimal number of doses?


Here's the full press release from the FDA:

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

"The FDA’s approval of this vaccine is a milestone as we continue to battle the COVID-19 pandemic. While this and other vaccines have met the FDA’s rigorous, scientific standards for emergency use authorization, as the first FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine, the public can be very confident that this vaccine meets the high standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality the FDA requires of an approved product,” said Acting FDA Commissioner Janet Woodcock, M.D. “While millions of people have already safely received COVID-19 vaccines, we recognize that for some, the FDA approval of a vaccine may now instill additional confidence to get vaccinated. Today’s milestone puts us one step closer to altering the course of this pandemic in the U.S."

Since Dec. 11, 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has been available under EUA in individuals 16 years of age and older, and the authorization was expanded to include those 12 through 15 years of age on May 10, 2021. EUAs can be used by the FDA during public health emergencies to provide access to medical products that may be effective in preventing, diagnosing, or treating a disease, provided that the FDA determines that the known and potential benefits of a product, when used to prevent, diagnose, or treat the disease, outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.

FDA-approved vaccines undergo the agency’s standard process for reviewing the quality, safety and effectiveness of medical products. For all vaccines, the FDA evaluates data and information included in the manufacturer’s submission of a biologics license application (BLA). A BLA is a comprehensive document that is submitted to the agency providing very specific requirements. For Comirnaty, the BLA builds on the extensive data and information previously submitted that supported the EUA, such as preclinical and clinical data and information, as well as details of the manufacturing process, vaccine testing results to ensure vaccine quality, and inspections of the sites where the vaccine is made. The agency conducts its own analyses of the information in the BLA to make sure the vaccine is safe and effective and meets the FDA’s standards for approval.

Comirnaty contains messenger RNA (mRNA), a kind of genetic material. The mRNA is used by the body to make a mimic of one of the proteins in the virus that causes COVID-19. The result of a person receiving this vaccine is that their immune system will ultimately react defensively to the virus that causes COVID-19. The mRNA in Comirnaty is only present in the body for a short time and is not incorporated into - nor does it alter - an individual’s genetic material. Comirnaty has the same formulation as the EUA vaccine and is administered as a series of two doses, three weeks apart.

"Our scientific and medical experts conducted an incredibly thorough and thoughtful evaluation of this vaccine. We evaluated scientific data and information included in hundreds of thousands of pages, conducted our own analyses of Comirnaty’s safety and effectiveness, and performed a detailed assessment of the manufacturing processes, including inspections of the manufacturing facilities,” said Peter Marks, M.D., Ph.D., director of FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. "We have not lost sight that the COVID-19 public health crisis continues in the U.S. and that the public is counting on safe and effective vaccines. The public and medical community can be confident that although we approved this vaccine expeditiously, it was fully in keeping with our existing high standards for vaccines in the U.S."

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While this is definitely a 'win' for Pfizer, BioNTech and their shareholders, it's not the end of the road as far as the approval process is concerned: The FDA is now expected to weigh approval of a booster dose, which the Biden Administration is pushing for before Sept. 20, when it expects to start doling out jabs to the most vulnerable patients.
 
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Imagine, if you can, that your country was such a gaping void of worthlessness that you have to obsess over the politics of your much cooler brother, America.

This is what typical Canadians are reduced to. A truly debased and pitiable existence.
First off, the only thing Canada "deserves" is a nuclear holocaust.
Imagine, if it is possible to put oneself in the shoes of a creature so low, that when the idiocy of your obsession with American politics is revealed, you begin to blubber and cry like a baby that it somehow does not qualify as politics.

This, my fellow American human beings, is the Canadian.
Secondly, he is worse than a Jew. He is, may Allah forgive me for even uttering such a word, a Leaf.

Okay, mockery of the Leaf over with, why the fuck does everyone keep acting like this non-vaccine will actually give you immunity? This man, the black-and-white Nazi cripple...
 
The mandates are so scary it is insane. Yeah, a private company can fire you for not getting the jab, that's acceptable I guess (even though it's not acceptable for them to fire you for having aids, which is way more of a concern). But the govt is not a private company, so if you work for them that is not the same as working for a private company, and that is the FIRST place that is requiring it.

Also, if your company would have otherwise allowed you to work unvaccinated, but are forced to make you get vaccinated because of where/how you do work, that again is not a "choice" that you or your employer is making. Government is making it for you.

"Well, these are extreme circumstances, so giving up a right on this issue is different than other stuff."
Yes, until people start comparing outcomes. For example, if covid kills like 80 people a week or something like .00001% of the population, and everybody is forced to get the vax. What else kills 80 people or .00001 of the participants? If covid can be justified in doing all this for 80 people a week, what about alcohol, driving for recreation (not to/from work), consumption of unhealthy foods, over-consumption of foods, riding a motorcycle, swimming in the ocean, skydiving, hunting (gun ownership) etc.

There are actual people in America who see that list and say "well yeah, they shouldn't be allowed to do that." That is what is at stake here, not "just wear your damn mask" or "do your part." It is losing every single aspect of society that gives people pleasure, because there are miserable, risk-averse people who would LOVE for society to be as 100% safe and unfun as they want their life to be. And if you're not in America, good fucking luck, because you probably already gave away half of this shit before any of this even happened.

Okay, mockery of the Leaf over with, why the fuck does everyone keep acting like this non-vaccine will actually give you immunity? This man, the black-and-white Nazi cripple...
A friend of mine went on a trip with a large group of random people. The group had a Delta outbreak, and over 50% of the group caught it. All of the ones who caught it were vaccinated. The only ones who didn't catch it were vaccinated within the month before going, or were unvaccinated. I don't say that last part because I think that the vax makes you MORE likely, just to outline how useless it is.

When I pointed out this (admittedly anecdotal) problem to pro-vax friends, they said "well the point isn't to make you immune, it's to mitigate how severe is the illness."

So it's not so much that they're saying "it will give you immunity," as they are now saying "it minimizes your risk."

Except that was not true at all when these were released and the first people got it. They were told "get the jab and live your life pre-covid." And the same people now saying "well it's just to minimize your risk, not to eliminate the virus" were the ones berating people for not "doing their part" to "beat covid."

It is truly shocking to me how myopic these otherwise intelligent people end up being about this situation. Their memory of the timeline is either missing huge gaps, or is remembering things out of order. Like when authorities said "don't wear masks, you only need them if you're in the medical field," or when they said "asymptomatic carriers have an extremely low risk of transmission, so unless you have symptoms it's not a big concern," or when they said "the faster you get your vaccine the sooner we can go back to normal life, because we will have beaten covid."

This is such an obvious playbook, that you can literally predict every play, yet... people don't. Whether it's apathy, fear of being ostracized, blind optimism, stupidity, or some combination thereof, it is simply not recognized on a huge selection of the populace. I do think that the skeptical people are WAY higher in number than you would think, because the govt and media are trying to make it look like a totally fringe belief for their own benefit.

As most people with a modicum of common sense realized after about a month of lockdowns last year, when death rates were at their peak and still not really that bad (compared to REAL epidemics), there is no "beating" covid. It is not something that can be eradicated, at least not within a reasonable timeframe. It is just a new illness that needs to be dealt with.

The same thing holds just as true now as it did last year: this is another flu. Yes it can kill people, just like all flus. Yes it can spread real fast, just like most flus. You should be able to decide for yourself how much risk or precaution to take. Wanna get the jab every 6 months, wear a mask and avoid crowds for the rest of your life? More power to ya. Wanna say "fuck the jab," never wear a mask, and go to juggalo gatherings? Have fun, my guy. And everything in between.

The people on the extreme "cautious" side are such a danger to society, it is truly the only thing that scares me about the future. Literally everything enjoyable about life contains some risk: sex, crowds, drugs/alcohol, guns, fast cars, motorcycles, food, hell even golf can kill you. We have just stepped on a big ledge of a massive slippery slope, and we have a huge contingent of people yelling "more more! Let's go further down! Quick, step on that ice over there!"
 
Sources for any of this that aren't anecdotal (particularly interested in 13.000 covid vaccine deaths and how much that is in percent of doses administered)? Not being snarky, genuinely inquiring because I don't mind hearing perspectives and views I am not familiar with.

It comes directly from the CDC's own vaccine adverse events and death database I linked on the first page.
Appreciate it mate!

PSA: VAERS (which is what the CDC links to) actually allows you to download the raw data of 618,479 observations (ie records of... well anything reported to anyone who then forwards it to the system really), which is pretty cool.

Even if there are some publications you trust (though I realize that a lot of people here trust none at all and that is, at this point, not an irrational position to have) , it's great to be able to verify data yourself when the dataset is available - the whole do your own research thing I guess.

If anyone here is versed in SPSS, STATA or R, the csv file imports like crap, but in theory you can run your own analysis of if you reformat the dataset to fit your SAS tool. IF anyone is actually going to reformat this or has better way of importing the delimited text data, I'd love to know what your adjustment were to make it easier to run correlation commands.

But it is fun to search even in its barebone's state, even just to check what kind of complications were recorded.

To give you an idea of how common and how obscure some recorded complications are: 71406 instances of fatigue, 4922 instances of people falling (ffs sit down and lean back), 139 instances of anger, 88 instances of erectile dysfunction, two instances of wrist fracture, two instances of writer's cramp (HAH), and perhaps my favorite, one instance of
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which is very clearly a fate far worse than death.


So after I checked it out, I honestly couldn't really find any way to justify the 12.000 deaths (very nicely aligned bar) the graph on page 2 lists, which cites the dataset I just went through (and various other publications also cite roundabout the same number from this dataset that I came to - ~5400 out of 300.000.000 or around 0.000018% - most publications state 0.000017% which I attribute to rounding error on my part. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's basically a 5% comparative error on my part, which is uh, not something I wanna see myself do). On a side note - if anyone manages to reformat it, I'd love to see how many recorded instances of falling are correlated with instances of death. Just to see if some doctor/nurse actually records a person falling over and dying as separate complications lol

Any idea where those graphs, or rather the picture of them, originate? I couldn't access the CDC "graphs" tab because of maintenance, so if it comes from there, my bad.

This isn't me arguing in bad faith or trying to nail you down, but the discrepancy is just rather large and I couldn't find that picture in reverse image search on any websites besides twitter (and the formatting, both when it comes to diagram-type used, years included, and numbering is complete shit from a data-presentation point of view, which is ... well also odd and tends to ring my alarm bells since it's something taught really early on in statistics classes in uni. I've seen peer-reviewed research that has done worse though, so it wouldn't be too big a surprise either).
That number being about double of what the source (and most other publications citing it) states is just kinda weird - the only thing I can think of is that whoever made the graphs might have doubled it because of some 2-dose thinking error?

Addendum to what I mean by it being shit from a data-presentation pov: It is kind of strange to compare deaths reported in connection with vaccinations in absolute numbers of previous years fx 2015 with deaths in 2020/2021 - Sort of like comparing how many road accidents happened on a given stretch of land before and after they built main street there.
It would be a much better presentation to have multiple (horizontal, I just find it easier to read) line graphs with fx "deaths recorded per 100.000 doses of vaccine" and then list smallpox, MMR, Polio, the current MRNA and Viral Vector vaccines and if one is so inclined, deaths by covid per 100.000 people.
I'd make that graph myself because I'm curious but I don't have access to data of those other vaccines.

To give perhaps a more visual example of very shitty, but accurate data representation, check out this from a german blog named "light-nourishment" (as in eating sun to nourish yourself)
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A) why even include anything from before 2021 when covid shots aren't even in play yet? To make the lines on the right more impressive of course.
B) On one of those bars, every increment denotes ONE HUNDRED THOUSANDS (100.000), while on the other bar, every increment denotes ONE (1). This is an accurate diagram showing 1 death in 55218 doses, but the representation is complete shit and some soccer mom looking at this without thinking twice will come away with the conclusion that pretty much everyone who takes the shot fucking dies.
 
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Appreciate it mate!

PSA: VAERS (which is what the CDC links to) actually allows you to download the raw data of 618,479 observations (ie records of... well anything reported to anyone who then forwards it to the system really), which is pretty cool.

Even if there are some publications you trust (though I realize that a lot of people here trust none at all and that is, at this point, not an irrational position to have) , it's great to be able to verify data yourself when the dataset is available - the whole do your own research thing I guess.

If anyone here is versed in SPSS, STATA or R, the csv file imports like crap, but in theory you can run your own analysis of if you reformat the dataset to fit your SAS tool. IF anyone is actually going to reformat this or has better way of importing the delimited text data, I'd love to know what your adjustment were to make it easier to run correlation commands.

But it is fun to search even in its barebone's state, even just to check what kind of complications were recorded.

To give you an idea of how common and how obscure some recorded complications are: 71406 instances of fatigue, 4922 instances of people falling (ffs sit down and lean back), 139 instances of anger, 88 instances of erectile dysfunction, two instances of wrist fracture, two instances of writer's cramp (HAH), and perhaps my favorite, one instance of
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which is very clearly a fate far worse than death.


So after I checked it out, I honestly couldn't really find any way to justify the 12.000 deaths (very nicely aligned bar) the graph on page 2 lists, which cites the dataset I just went through (and various other publications also cite roundabout the same number from this dataset that I came to - ~5400 out of 300.000.000 or around 0.000018% - most publications state 0.000017% which I attribute to rounding error on my part. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but it's basically a 5% comparative error on my part, which is uh, not something I wanna see myself do). On a side note - if anyone manages to reformat it, I'd love to see how many recorded instances of falling are correlated with instances of death. Just to see if some doctor/nurse actually records a person falling over and dying as separate complications lol


Any idea where those graphs, or rather the picture of them, originate? I couldn't access the CDC "graphs" tab because of maintenance, so if it comes from there, my bad.

This isn't me arguing in bad faith or trying to nail you down, but the discrepancy is just rather large and I couldn't find that picture in reverse image search on any websites besides twitter (and the formatting, both when it comes to diagram-type used, years included, and numbering is complete shit from a data-presentation point of view, which is ... well also odd and tends to ring my alarm bells since it's something taught really early on in statistics classes in uni. I've seen peer-reviewed research that has done worse though, so it wouldn't be too big a surprise either).
That number being about double of what the source (and most other publications citing it) states is just kinda weird - the only thing I can think of is that whoever made the graphs might have doubled it because of some 2-dose thinking error?

Addendum to what I mean by it being shit from a data-presentation pov: It is kind of strange to compare deaths reported in connection with vaccinations in absolute numbers of previous years fx 2015 with deaths in 2020/2021 - Sort of like comparing how many road accidents happened on a given stretch of land before and after they built main street there.
It would be a much better presentation to have multiple (horizontal, I just find it easier to read) line graphs with fx "deaths recorded per 100.000 doses of vaccine" and then list smallpox, MMR, Polio, the current MRNA and Viral Vector vaccines and if one is so inclined, deaths by covid per 100.000 people.
I'd make that graph myself because I'm curious but I don't have access to data of those other vaccines.

To give perhaps a more visual example of very shitty, but accurate data representation, check out this from a german blog named "light-nourishment" (as in eating sun to nourish yourself)
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A) why even include anything from before 2021 when covid shots aren't even in play yet? To make the lines on the right more impressive of course.
B) On one of those bars, every increment denotes ONE HUNDRED THOUSANDS (100.000), while on the other bar, every increment denotes ONE (1). This is an accurate diagram showing 1 death in 55218 doses, but the representation is complete shit and some soccer mom looking at this without thinking twice will come away with the conclusion that pretty much everyone who takes the shot fucking dies.
Hello Pfizer.
 
Delta variant can kill even healthy people, I knew an avid hiker who died to the coof. But keep thinking your Adonis body can withstand COVID.
Funny considering I, a non avid hiker, caught the delta variant and was legally housebound for 2 weeks...survived with no ill effects. Your avid hiker bro must have been a giant pussy to drop dead from the coof.
 
Funny considering I, a non avid hiker, caught the delta variant and was legally housebound for 2 weeks...survived with no ill effects. Your avid hiker bro must have been a giant pussy to drop dead from the coof.
That’s rude, he was a good man. Just because you lived and have anecdotal evidence doesn’t mean it’s easy breezy for everyone.
 
I bet the person you knew had an underlying health condition.
I bet you he won't tell you how old he was, whether he had any health conditions, or heavy he was etc, because then his "anecdotal evidence that isn't anecdotal evidence but mine is" would get btfo.

No one come at me with "but it's super duper deadly to even healthy people" when I had to spend two weeks locked in my home, legally unable to leave without facing a several thousand buck fine, having the cops "check on me to make sure I was at home" and I toughed it out with bedrest and regular meds. It was shit, it wasn't great, coughing non stop, having the shits from all the mucus buildup in my stomach, but ultimately...survivable. Maybe if I was older and had underlying conditions I would be in hospital, but good thing I don't have those.

Notice, replies to me in seconds, yet when asked for deets on his avid hiker friend, nowhere to be found. The guy is dead, not like putting his weight or age here is going to bother him. Blocks people from commenting on his profile as well because he's a giant pussy.
 
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Me personally I do not believe in forcing a baker to bake a cake he does not want to for the client.

Hey I know, people on KF don't like TRANNIES and GAY CAKES right? I have an idea, I'll pretend I'm against GAY CAKES too and that will make everyone here think being threatened with homelessness into giving up your bodily autonomy is a good thing
 
Hey I know, people on KF don't like TRANNIES and GAY CAKES right? I have an idea, I'll pretend I'm against GAY CAKES too and that will make everyone here think being threatened with homelessness into giving up your bodily autonomy is a good thing
Why should an employer be forced to keep hired a walking bio-hazard who may scare away customers?
 
Funny considering I, a non avid hiker, caught the delta variant and was legally housebound for 2 weeks...survived with no ill effects. Your avid hiker bro must have been a giant pussy to drop dead from the coof.
i don't think his hiker friend exists. I don't believe this faggot has any friends.
 
I sincerely doubt a 35 year old man who is a peak athlete is going to die is going to die from the coof. Not everyone is a fat greaseball like you.
tbf Chandler is so heavily on steroids, he literally turned himself infertile. And normally that's only reserved for pro bodybuilders, not mma fighters.

If anything, I think he's probably higher risk than you think.

After all, steroids suppress the immumesystem
 
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