Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[NoSpiceLife]

Ooooo I just read that the FDA have to revoke all the other EUA's due to the 'no adequate, approved, and available alternative' clause.

Wonder how pissed Fauci and Gates are?

I wonder if they can get them approved quick enough, that they won't affect the countries that are supposed to have them delivered next month?

 

[Salubrious]

Honestly? Yes. Doctors and "medical professionals" are idiots, automatons with little to no critical thinking skills due to the way they were taught, but enriched to critical mass with ego and arrogance about their importance, their skills, and their intelligence. Especially nurses. Virologists, epidemiologists and other biologists who actually studied a science and not medicine are better, but due to the nature of these fields there is too much unscientific guesswork, and the political infiltration has affected biology as the lowest tier natural science first and most.
Doctors think they're hypersmart geniuses because Dr. House and fucking Scrubs or whatever, and because med school requires you to cram a whole fucking lot. But regurgitating knowledge isn't really intelligence.
You become a doctor if you're too dumb to be a biologist, which you become if you're too dumb to be a chemist, which you get into if you have too much libido to get into physics, which is what you get into if you're not autistic enough for math.
You can boo me now, but deep down you know I'm right. Doctors are retards, although they at least do useful work. Unlike lawyers, who are just as dumb, but are actively malicious parasites to civilised society.

Not only that, but they've basically outright admitted that they won't say anything that makes them sound "too Republican."

Medical professionals are people too. They know that if they speak wrongthink then their careers might be over. They aren't going to jeopardize their careers, and it won't be a violation of their oath because they'll just convince themselves that it has to be the right thing.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

Someone else's explanation of the 'approval'.

The actual shot people know of as the "pfizer shot" never got approved. It stayed as "experimental". However, a second jab under a different name "Comirnaty" DID get "approved". Here's the kicker: Under emergency authorization the same old clotshot can be administered without approval until enough "Comirnaty" gets produced, apparently they have practically none, and they have millions of vials of the shot we all know and have come to love ready to go that can be completely used up before the "approved" version, (which is probably an identical weapon) HAS TO be used, with the previous one "discontinued".

And as everyone knows, they threw procedure out the window and even Comirnaty has until Halloween 2025 to complete it's safety studies, all the while it will be administered without them.

When I originally went over the approval document, it was a lengthy convoluted confusing snake speak script ALL THE WAY THROUGH. With an extended decipher done later, the above is precisely what it really says, in reality the "Pfizer shot" did NOT get approved but re-authorized for use until the tens of millions of shots already made are used, and then they'll switch to the "approved" Comirnaty version which has basically no clinical trials done on it, and are instead PENDING 2025.

Pay attention to the document where it states they don’t have enough jabs for 16 year old cohort and then they will jab 12-15 yo with a 3rd jab 28 days after last jab and that the jabs are legally distinct but the same formula but interchangeable.

 

[Protistology]

if you're not autistic enough for math.

Which you get into if you're too stupid for actuarial science.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

It is, but it's a re-presentation of chickenpox. When you get chickenpox, it never goes away. It "lives" in the dorsal root ganglia. Then when you get run down, you get shingles as your body can't keep it at bay. This is common with many of the herpes viruses, like herpes simplex I and II.

You don't catch it over and over, once you get it, it's there forever. Which is, admittedly crap, but it's manageable.

I can totally understand why we immunise against meningitis. A friend of mine lost his 7 year old boy to it a few years ago, and it was truly awful. It can go from nothing to deathly serious very, very fast, as well, and if people do survive it, they often have to have limbs amputated because of sepsis and necrosis, which is awful.

Because Chickenpox is a DNA virus. DNA viruses (and retroviruses) do actually alter the host's DNA.

Those who are more medically knowledgeable than me, let me ask a question. The current narrative that people are just accepting is that coof boosters are a perfectly normal idea, generally bringing up how you get flu shots every year and equating the two. I know that both the coof and the flu have multiple variants out there, and the flu shot is just a best guess as to which variants are going to be most prevalent, which is why the flu is generally more severe in years when they guess wrong. What's the difference between how coronaviruses and influenza mutate? My general understanding is that cold viruses like coronaviruses and rhinoviruses mutate much more quickly, which is why nobody's ever really bothered trying to vaccinate against them. I mean, we've already seen that with how many coof variants are out there, with more popping up all the time. It seems a fool's errand to stay ahead of the curve.

Currently the various influenza strains are much more genetically distinct than COVID and its variants. Each influenza strain also has multiple variants that come and go. I also posted a link somewhere on this thread and the vaccine thread about the mutation rates of other diseases*, and Influenza A was like 0.00009, while the current estimations of COVID's mutation rate is like 0.02-0.06 (from a separate, more recent paper).

*(And it was peer-reviewed and published prior to 2020, so you know the bias is at a minimum)

So much doom and gloom in this thread.

I would argue the opposite. This is arguably the LEAST gloom and doom.

This thread was one of the first places to collectively figure out that COVID is a big fat nothingburger while everyone was freaking about about muh nooo plague which was going to give us bodies in the streets, any day now...

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

With 80% effectiveness against Delta, you have no hope for herd immunity even if you could get 100% vaccination rates. Which you can't.
Come back when you have the Collector's VOTY Edition HD Remaster.

Spoiler

And I'll still refuse it just to spite you lmao

I just hope they'll actually improve the safety of the vaccines over the years. Sadly, they have no incentive to at the moment. If I were my grandparents' age I'd probably want to play Russian roulette with the vaccine. Sure, my grandmother in her 80s with all sorts of health issues survived the virus last year, but if I were her age I probably wouldn't risk it.

If I'm going to be ostracized from society because I refuse to take a useless vaccine, then I hope that in the next 40-50 years (i.e. the time I might consider taking it) the vaccine ends up being both safe and useful.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Again, very selfish of you.

My body, my choice chickadee. It applies even when lefties think it doesn't.

After I get my forced shot, let's ban all motor vehicles. 99% of the population is thousands and thousands of times more likely to die in a car crash, after all. If you still drive knowing that, you're selfish.

 

[Homegrown Homophobia]

I had an encounter with a mask nazi at the gym 2 weeks ago that was so weird I've decided to say fuck it I'm going to start lifting at home now in my garage. This weirdo was going up to everyone and getting in everyone's' face who wasn't bothering to wear a mask which sounds like a great way to get your ass beat if he were to try doing that in an inner city gym.

Ironically enough he looked just like the UnseenJapan fag and of course he spent more time walking on the treadmill than anything else.

Everything I use at the gym can either be acquired or built DIY over time anyway.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

I had an encounter with a mask nazi at the gym 2 weeks ago that was so weird I've decided to say fuck it I'm going to start lifting at home now in my garage. This weirdo was going up to everyone and getting in everyone's' face who wasn't bothering to wear a mask which sounds like a great way to get your ass beat if he were to try doing that in an inner city gym.

Ironically enough he looked just like the UnseenJapan fag and of course he spent more time walking on the treadmill than anything else.

Everything I use at the gym can either be acquired or built DIY over time anyway.

No fren. Don't let them put you off. Our very presence upsets and distresses them. It opens the door to wrongthink for them. And that is what They hate.

 

[The Great Citracett]

 

[Escaped Abortion]

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf

Saw this, people were saying this could be the start of confirming ADE in lab mice giving the vax and exposed to one of the Deltas. It's a preprint.

Is DrainTodger out there? This seems like the kind of thing he'd enjoy picking over.

 

[knobslobbin]

Hourly reminder that if you don't feed every pro-corporate shill that pops in here the thread remains useful for people discussing all things covid.

But please, for the 5,000th time let's review why some people in here dare to be vaccine hesitant and argue over the same globalist talking points the mindless are happy to regurgitate for you.

Has there been an update to the script recently at least? This week's episode is beyond tiresome.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

I didn't even know this. You have no legal right to know which variant of COVID you caught because the sequencing is a secret.

You aren't legally allowed to know which variant gave you COVID-19 in the US, even if it's Delta

Sequencing tests, which pick up on variants, have be federally approved before their results can be disclosed to doctors or patients.

www.yahoo.com

You aren't legally allowed to know which variant gave you COVID-19 in the US, even if it's Delta

• Most people with COVID-19 in the US are legally prevented from knowing which variant infected them.
• That's because sequencing tests have to be federally approved for results to be disclosed to doctors or patients, and most are not yet.
• Lab scientists say the process of validating the tests for approval is too costly and time-consuming.

I asked about this when my son got tested

Its a very complicated procedure to actually sequence a variant. It was described to me as hacking mucus into a cup where it went to a lab somewhere and put in an egg and spun and thats all they knew after that part.

They do not do it for every test.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

I just hope they'll actually improve the safety of the vaccines over the years. Sadly, they have no incentive to at the moment. If I were my grandparents' age I'd probably want to play Russian roulette with the vaccine. Sure, my grandmother in her 80s with all sorts of health issues survived the virus last year, but if I were her age I probably wouldn't risk it.

Its also less playing Russian Roulette and picking which game of Russian Roulette to play.
If you're old, choosing the vaccine is like picking from one of six pistols with eleven chambers each while getting infected is like playing with just one pistol with six chambers.
If you're old, who cares if your non-existent reproductive capacity is diminished? If you're old, what does it matter if you pick up an autoimmune disorder in a few years time, because you'll either be dead or already falling apart anyways?
For old people the vaccine is still a better idea than the virus, because oldies don't have the same health concerns that young people do.

What's really pissing me off about the vax push, is that they are trying to push it on young people because:
1) they don't need it
2) most of whom have probably already survived COVID
3) the vax wont stop mutations
4) "the vulnerable" should have already been vaccinated by now

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Speaking of, actual COVID to D00mers and Branch Covidians has become like the Soviet Union to pinkos.
Multiple times now, both IRL and online, I have had people tell me that either I "must have had false positives" or "well that must not have been REAL COVID!".
"I HOPE YOU GET COVID AND DIE!"
"Already had it. Asymptomatic."
"Oh yeah? Well I hope you get the REAL THING next time!"

I girl I know, who I otherwise find intelligent enough, has this conspiracy that there are actually two different viruses that will both wring up positive antibody tests. Its like she's so close to figuring it out, but yet when confronted with the obvious evidence pointing that hey, maybe COVID is just an overblown cold, she would rather believe some crackpot shit about another 'weaker' virus tricking the tests into think its COVID...

 

[borsabil]

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf

Saw this, people were saying this could be the start of confirming ADE in lab mice giving the vax and exposed to one of the Deltas. It's a preprint.

Is DrainTodger out there? This seems like the kind of thing he'd enjoy picking over.

The Covid passports only started to be introduced when the numbers from Israel began to drop. A case fatality rate from the Delta strain 5 to 6 times times higher than that reported in unvaccinated people. I think they're in full blown panic mode right now. If it became known that the vaccines were not only not preventing infections but were actually causing more serious disease it would be tar and feather time.

If there is a large group of non vaxxed it will be much, much harder to hide the truth. The goal is to eliminate the control group so that when Covid avoids the vaccines completely, and it's when not if, the spike in deaths can be plausibly put down to a more deadly Covid strain emerging. Faith in the vaccines will be maintained and the population can be corralled into accepting new mRNA jabs.

I think they're aiming for 90% plus vaccination rates for the entire population, most western nations are sitting at between 60-70%. If the current restrictions don't work expect them to become much, much harsher as in you literally won't be allowed to leave your house on pain of being put in a FEMA camp if you're not double jabbed, even forced vaccinations in some places. They really don't have a choice at this point, the alternative is massive social unrest and government collapse. Sure millions may die but that's a better alternative than admitting they've fucked up.

 

[Protistology]

ITT

 

[The Nothingness]

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Using an obituary to make a political rant? And I thought things couldn't sink lower in the 2020s.

 

[Terrifik]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1430211255781019654

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

ITT
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It'll never sink in, but maybe it'll eventually get fun to prop those eyelids open.

 

[fhqwhgads]

I wonder what long-term impact this will have on actual vaccine uptake when realising it's all been a shitshow enters the public consciousness. Thinking vaccines cause autism did some damage, but a world-over lie of this proportion? How many further lives will incidentally be lost as a result?

Pharmaceutical companies, politicians, and the media are complicit, but so are the fuckers too high off their own farts to realise that humanity isn't above repeating mistakes of the past. The fuckers who stick their fingers in their ears and REEEEEEEEEEEEE incessantly at evidence that contradicts what bullshit they have been spoon-fed instead of taking a moment to step back and think critically about it.

I don't have an issue where someone is simply ignorant, excepting situations where such ignorance could actually harm me; simply lacking knowledge doesn't imply an unwillingness to learn. But people who outright refuse to even contend alternative explanations, those people who are exuberant in their willful ignorance, they piss me off to no end. They are part of the problem too.