US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[The Last Stand]

Nah, the press covered for Obama hard. Not nearly as bad as for Biden though.

Through personal experience, it was easier to find Obama detractors than outright praise.

 

[Absolutego]

Something funky happened out there, or was going to happen.

Did Kamala have any additional spots that she was going to pay a sneaky visit to? Sometimes a leader will visit France for a big event, but also nip to Spain for the day, sometimes unplanned. Or unannounced?

Was Kamala preparing to take a cheeky did to Taiwan, and the Chinese said keep away?

it's much more on-brand for this presidency to assume she was sent off to Vietnam either because Harris or Jill Biden wanted her out of town during the brouhaha over the Afghanistan withdrawal. Jill because she could interfere, Harris because she didn't want to be touched by association with this shitshow.
I rather doubt this government is proactive enough to be doing sneaky "shoring up alliances" trips to Taiwan instead of being caught with their pants down yet again because they're totally focused on domestic issues and only use foreign policy for photo-ops and political capital.

 

[Billy Beer]

I agree something happened, but also think we are missing a big piece of the puzzle. We don't know if she had any unplanned visits, but China saying to keep away from Taiwan wouldn't really necessitate scrapping a briefing and waiting four hours.

I would put my uninformed guess on the big piece being in the shape of a triangle.

China, America and Afghanistan (taliban) are all connected at the moment. Each wants something from the other. Knowing how bad Afghanistan was messed up, can we put it past them to over play their hand in the south China seas?

 

[make_it_so]

Meijer is a RINO who voted to impeach Trump, gotta get the neocon grift going for after he gets primaried out.

And Moulton is one of those "veteran" oathbreakers who uses his "service" to shill for gun control.

And yet they still took more risk and did more to bring about the truth about what's going on there than any of the worthless Beltway chairwarmers or BlueAnon Twitter NPC's have.

 

[Billy Beer]

it's much more on-brand for this presidency to assume she was sent off to Vietnam either because Harris or Jill Biden wanted her out of town during the brouhaha over the Afghanistan withdrawal. Jill because she could interfere, Harris because she didn't want to be touched by association with this shitshow.
I rather doubt this government is proactive enough to be doing sneaky "shoring up alliances" trips to Taiwan instead of being caught with their pants down yet again because they're totally focused on domestic issues and only use foreign policy for photo-ops and political capital.

That makes sense. The first lady exiled Kamala so she couldn't make a move?

Can a vp call a vote of no confidence?

Edit. If the rumours are true that Jill talked Joe in to changing his mind about the withdrawal date, could Kamala use it as evidence to drive a vote against Joe? Kamala was delayed to avoid the vote or getting home in time to do something?

 

[draggs]

Kamala going to Vietnam.
Vietnam on South China seas
China in dispute over South China Sea
Afghanis and chinese have close ties
America told to vamoose from kabul
Biden conference delayed 4 hours
Kamala avoided/delayed landing in Vietnam
G7 summit on the same day

China making a move for Taiwan knowing there will be no resistance from America,as they're in crisis and the Europeans and Brits have distanced themselves from the states?

Was the delay because China were on the blower telling Kamala/the press to keep their noses out while China practiced 'war games' and carried out 'maneuvers'?

That would be incredibly stupid of China as America would respond and China would lose the war, not having enough ships or planes or the doctrine to win against America and all the countries she'd bring in with her

Zero chance America wouldn't go to war, the group that "lost Taiwan" (and all of East Asia) would be politically dead for a long time

So many Republicans would be elected next year they could remove and install any president they wanted and they probably would

 

[Gehenna]

That makes sense. The first lady exiled Kamala so she couldn't make a move?

Can a vp call a vote of no confidence?

Yes, its the 25th amendment.

To be less glib, the U.S. doesn't really have a vote of No Confidence. This is mainly because we elect our leaders directly rather than electing the party members who chose the leader like in Britland.

 

[Absolutego]

That makes sense. The first lady exiled Kamala so she couldn't make a move?

Can a vp call a vote of no confidence?

We don't have a parliament here, votes of no confidence aren't a thing IIRC. It'd be impeachment or a congressional censure, and while I'm delving deep into high school civics and could totally be wrong, I'm pretty sure the VP's legislative activity is entirely limited to being a tie-breaker.
EDIT: damn you @Gehenna for being a faster typist lmao

 

[Meat Target]

And yet they still took more risk and did more to bring about the truth about what's going on there than any of the worthless Beltway chairwarmers or BlueAnon Twitter NPC's have.

True, but that doesn't mean they are worthy of your vote.

 

[Gehenna]

That would be incredibly stupid of China as America would respond and China would lose the war, not having enough ships or planes or the doctrine to win against America and all the countries she'd bring in with her

Zero chance America wouldn't go to war, the group that "lost Taiwan" (and all of East Asia) would be politically dead for a long time

I am inclined to agree, especially as I think all three factions of the cabal could unite to agree to defend Taiwan simply because it could give them a massive distraction and recoup attempt for this clusterfuck. Many are CCP shills, don't get me wrong, but their loyalty is to themselves first, China second. And right now they are facing down the barrel of a gun, and giving up on Taiwan would put them six feet under. Possibly literally.

 

[make_it_so]

True, but that doesn't mean they are worthy of your vote.

I'll still give them props where it's earned.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

What really makes people think that the 70,700 number is even close to accurate considering that Biden was completely wrong about what was going to happen to Afghanistan a month ago?

More people would be alive there if he didn't cuck out like this.

 

[Gehenna]

If Afghanistan were an attempt by China to undermine the U.S., then it's a case of succeeding too well. By fucking up -this hard- the cabal is just begging for a chance to assert itself in a more favorable field. Defending Taiwan would be -absolutely ideal- at this point since it would be defending a clear 'good' party from a clear 'evil' party, with massive tactical and military advantages, and the ability to just hand off control to the Taiwanese. Its free Capital.

 

[Absolutego]

I am inclined to agree, especially as I think all three factions of the cabal could unite to agree to defend Taiwan simply because it could give them a massive distraction and recoup attempt for this clusterfuck. Many are CCP shills, don't get me wrong, but their loyalty is to themselves first, China second. And right now they are facing down the barrel of a gun, and giving up on Taiwan would put them six feet under. Possibly literally.

Also, and this isn't brought up enough, Taiwan has most of the functional microchip manufactories on the planet and very correctly predicted that would ensure Western powers would care enough about them to intervene and protect their independence, unlike, say, Hong Kong.
Intel might be building some new ones in Beaverton, but it's far too late and they certainly aren't ready yet. They started working on it about two years ago, and I remember when the Thailand floods fucked the HDD industry for 5 years, it took Western Digital about 3 years to clear the regulation hurdles to rebuild their clean room at Great Oaks in San Jose to compensate for the diminished amount of functional facilities in Thailand.

 

[Billy Beer]

Against America and all the countries she'd bring in with her

Woah Woah Woah, sweet child of mine. Which countries are these? The sentiment at the moment is America doesn't need or want help, and less countries are willing to offer it. Not to sound like a dick, I just don't know how much support you guys have. It could be loads, it could be none.

Zero chance America wouldn't go to war, the group that "lost Taiwan" (and all of East Asia) would be politically dead for a long time

You may well be politically dead for a long time. If tens of thousands of yank citizens get mowed down because the pres messed up, or the taliban grew impatient (was told to open fire) how much political capital would you have on the world stage?

Worst case scenario

Yes, its the 25th amendment.

To be less glib, the U.S. doesn't really have a vote of No Confidence. This is mainly because we elect our leaders directly rather than electing the party members who chose the leader like in Britland.

TIL.

We don't have a parliament here, votes of no confidence aren't a thing IIRC. It'd be impeachment or a congressional censure, and while I'm delving deep into high school civics and could totally be wrong, I'm pretty sure the VP's legislative activity is entirely limited to being a breakrr

In bongland we have procedures and rules that need to be triggered by specific people. What events need a VP and only a VP to trigger?

 

[Meat Target]

What really makes people think that the 70,700 number is even close to accurate considering that Biden was completely wrong about what was going to happen to Afghanistan a month ago?

More people would be alive there if he didn't cuck out like this.

Copium and clever propaganda.

Did anyone notice they didn't even bother to cite anyone involved about that number? The only proof they've offered amounts to "because Biden said so".

 

[Gehenna]

In bongland we have procedures and rules that need to be triggered by specific people. What events need a VP and only a VP to trigger?

A tiebreaker in the Senate is really it in terms of raw legality, in terms of practicality the 25th Amendment. No Cabinet member would try to trigger that without the VP being 100% on board, and it's best triggered by the VP because them doing it would be a true vote of no confidence from the president's greatest ally.

 

[Absolutego]

In bongland we have procedures and rules that need to be triggered by specific people. What events need a VP and only a VP to trigger?

None. Even the 25th amendment, which has provisions for the transfer of power if the executive is incompetent, requires a congressional body agree with it. The VP is basically the Burgerland equivalent of the "Spare" from the Bongland "Heir and a Spare" mentality.
Edit: I need to just let @Gehenna respond to these, he's way faster

 

[Billy Beer]

A tiebreaker in the Senate is really it in terms of raw legality, in terms of practicality the 25th Amendment. No Cabinet member would try to trigger that without the VP being 100% on board, and it's best triggered by the VP because them doing it would be a true vote of no confidence from the president's greatest ally.

Can this be triggered at any time of day, or are there set times to do it?

I'm trying to understand if Kamala was delayed to prevent her to get home, or to prevent her going somewhere

 

[make_it_so]

What really makes people think that the 70,700 number is even close to accurate considering that Biden was completely wrong about what was going to happen to Afghanistan a month ago?

More people would be alive there if he didn't cuck out like this.

Yeah, but Joe has fallen to 41% approval in the polls (possibly even lower), so the BlueAnon Twitter bots need to get that number out there as far and wide as possible to try to save him, regardless of whether or not it has any bearing on reality.