Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)
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WANTS. I can't stand that language, it is like a backdoor out for someone who wants to displace blame.
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I resent the reality that is the world sucking so much lately that I'm inclined to agree with you. And yeah the brainwashing part is fairly blatant, to the extent that the average modern consoomer has a brain to wash in the first place.
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Pelosi is about to speak, probably about what a great job she did with the $3.5T
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Right, a few things:
1: Life is NOT stable. Prices are increasing, there's a rent clusterfuck approaching, the country is deeply riven by division. The normies are noticing things are getting more expensive.
2: Media does not distract as well as you think. Circuses only work to lull the populace into a sense of security. Anything which makes them Take Notice pops that, and as a preventative circus can do jack and shit to STOP a problem.
3: Apathy is what prevents people from Taking Notice, it again is a preventative not a cure.
4: Come on, we have covered this you and I. The Flag Wavers voted Trump and already hate Biden. They are not going to suddenly forgive a massive clusterfuck any more than Labour would forgive Tories on the queens birthday.
5: Kamala is hated by the other three factions in the cabal... and those factions are the ones the media is loyal to.
6: Dems already blew their load. They blew every load they had.
7: You describe people of every day and age. And just like every age before us, if those people are roused from their pleasant obliviousness they get pissed and -stay- pissed until whatever roused them dies.
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No, Fox news will not carry Biden's water for him. And two, who honestly cares about terrorism (at least for the time being)? There hasn't been a major terrorist attack around the globe in quite some time never mind in the United States. Everyone is fixated on COVID.
As for your previous arguments regarding what essentially the people will do regarding the current administration, I don't agree that people will just do nothing at least in the long run. For the time being there's going to be a lot of foot dragging sure, but I can't see this situation simply vanishing into thin air as if nothing happened not unless both Republicans and our supposed foreign allies want this to disappear. The only actual question is, will this be damning enough for people to not support the Left in 2022. I say yes though for additional reasons.
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Which will probably change soon. Thanks Corn Pop!
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I say this without a hint of irony.
I hope that the public face of this shitshow is the only miscoordination. I hope there really have been people scrambling to make this miracle of an evacuation possible. I hope the smoke clears and despite the confusion surrounding the particulars, we really did get everyone out.
I truly don't think this is the case, but I sincerely hope it is.
I will not give the Biden administration a shred of credit for it though. The damage is already done. By shifting attention to the evacuation, we're forgetting that it was a crisis of Biden's own design, and the even bigger story that the pullout was so disastrous and mismanaged that not only did the Taliban gain control in a matter of literal days, but they have over half a million rifles and machine guns, tens of thousands of vehicles and aircraft, years worth of ammunition and god knows how much fuel. Biden just created the best armed terrorist cell in history, and ensured that US government marked weapons and equipment will be used to kill people in global conflict zones for half a century.
Biden could wave a wand and disarm the entire US populace now and he'd still be responsible for more gun violence in the next 20 years than any president since WW2.
He is a fuckup. This is a fuckup. When Taiwan falls, it's on Biden. When there's a streak of terror attacks (real ones, not weirdos milling around public monuments), it's on Biden.
And again, to top it off, I am not confident that we're actually going to get out of this without significant American bloodshed in the first place. And that's not counting the tens of thousands of Afghanis who will be purged starting as soon as the wheels go up on the last transport.
I hope that the public face of this shitshow is the only miscoordination. I hope there really have been people scrambling to make this miracle of an evacuation possible. I hope the smoke clears and despite the confusion surrounding the particulars, we really did get everyone out.
I truly don't think this is the case, but I sincerely hope it is.
I will not give the Biden administration a shred of credit for it though. The damage is already done. By shifting attention to the evacuation, we're forgetting that it was a crisis of Biden's own design, and the even bigger story that the pullout was so disastrous and mismanaged that not only did the Taliban gain control in a matter of literal days, but they have over half a million rifles and machine guns, tens of thousands of vehicles and aircraft, years worth of ammunition and god knows how much fuel. Biden just created the best armed terrorist cell in history, and ensured that US government marked weapons and equipment will be used to kill people in global conflict zones for half a century.
Biden could wave a wand and disarm the entire US populace now and he'd still be responsible for more gun violence in the next 20 years than any president since WW2.
He is a fuckup. This is a fuckup. When Taiwan falls, it's on Biden. When there's a streak of terror attacks (real ones, not weirdos milling around public monuments), it's on Biden.
And again, to top it off, I am not confident that we're actually going to get out of this without significant American bloodshed in the first place. And that's not counting the tens of thousands of Afghanis who will be purged starting as soon as the wheels go up on the last transport.
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Well, you see, if these American citizens expecting to be evacuated by their government REALLY wanted to leave they would find their way through a Taliban controlled Kabul, traverse the thronged riots around the airport, and then breach the Taliban's armed and aggressive security cordon. Anyone left behind just didn't want it enough, obviously. You can't blame Biden for people being lazy and not making the smallest effort to just waltz onto a plane, now can you?
Only a racist vax-denying women-hating rapist MAGAtard would even think such a thing!
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That's inevitably going to go very poorly when/if they try it. I get why they are, it lets them extend the period of their "Desperately trying to fix it" stage if they have to, letting them claim that they simply didn't get contacted in time, oh we're sorry. The problem is that the general populace won't give two fucks about that excuse. It buys them a day, maybe two, then the bleeding begins again because the populace will demand the government do something.
The sleeping giant is docile and oblivious, but once roused it demands blood and doesn't care how it gets it.
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This may be totally unrelated, but seems as the Saigon comparison is getting knocked about...
Can't they do a Vietnam? "There are no more soldiers left behind in Vietnam", despite there being loads of soldiers left behind in Naam.
With the MSM and SM, or some elements of, backing Biden, could the people be pushed in to believing that the rotten ice-cream is just a new flavour? How can you argue with "Everyone who wants out is out"? Because if they wanted to get out, they would have done and seems as they didn't get out, they must not have wanted out/followed instructions. "Are you some kind of Qanon, Trump supporting, Alt-right Nazi, Anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist?" "lul i bet you believe in flat-earth"
Good point. "Don't question figures, just consume headline and get excited for next headline"
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>inB4 the White House refuse to bring them home because they aren't registered democrats
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Probably, which would be an utter embarrassment.
The other thing is, what exactly does the Left have to stand on for 2022 never mind 2024? I'm thoroughly convinced no one is going to believe they accomplished anything on the world stage, that's for sure. Not that most people particularly care that much for foreign policy in general. As for domestic affairs, we still have kids in cages (even if the media is no longer reporting that), rising inflation, and future mass evictions. The Left will have to cook the books hardcore to convince people that the economy is doing fine and that they don't need to worry about COVID any more which as we've seen won't happen because of the Sigma Deluxe 5.3 You Can (NOT) Final Mix variant lurking just around the corner.
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What's the point then of voting for the Left? Your money has less value, the person in charge is actually not in charge, our allies hate us even more, and we can't stop COVID or any other future maladies.
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The administration doesn't have a monopoly on information, I think that's what you are fundamentally not grasping. Only ~28% of the U.S. trusts the media, and that is -overwhelmingly- Democrats. And not just Democrats, but the hardened core of democrats.
That leaves ~70% who don't give two fucks about the media. That is a LOT of the center who is not getting their news just out of the headlines. Instead, it's filtered to them through other people. And unlike the hardened core of either side, they aren't going to just reject one side of the narrative. Normally, they just ignore both sides, but when their attention is gained they instead listen to both and usually gravitate towards whichever one pisses them off the most because that's the side presented to them most fervently.
So let me set the exact order of events that occurs here. The Biden Admin hits the 31st and fully pulls out. He claims everyone who wanted out is out, nobody left, a perfect job. Then, inevitably because this is a giant clusterfuck, people who aren't complete fucking NPCs find out this isn't true. They mention it, begin to spread it among their circles. Aaaand right there done. Because word-of-mouth is how 70% of people get their trusted news. And since they were already Interested, that is going to spread like -wildfire-.
Good fucking luck convincing every single center person that it's a "Qanon, Trump supporting, Alt-right Nazi, Anti-vaxx conspiracy [theory]" when it's already wild in the population. That kind of mind terminating bullshit only works when the populace doesn't care. We crossed that bridge already, they care.
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Seriously though, even if they pull this off, don't let anyone get away with trying to get credit for a plan that relies on the fucking Taliban playing nice after we arm them to the teeth and concede their every demand. Remind people there was a fucking universe of alternatives that would have gotten us better results that didn't involve people falling to their deaths while trying to cling to airliners.
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Most ICs are made off shore from the US. Many are made in Taiwan. They may not care about foreign policy right now, but when fundamental things (e.g. affecting the power grid) can't be purchased or repaired, life is going to suck hard and they'll notice.
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All this of course is ignoring the sheer size of the knock on effects of making the general populace take notice. Those are extensive and painful for the party that made them take notice as well.
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To powerlevel a bit because I’m very mati right now. My stepsister straight up refuses to say his name, and had the audacity to say that all this shit doesn’t cross her mind at all because she was voting against Trump not for Biden. She’s also called Nov 3rd redemption day and talked about ethnicities to adopt from the way you’d talk about dog breeds, so my opinion of her wasn’t particularly good anyway.
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Off topic but earlier you discounted the importance of Twitter as an influence on people. Why does the democrat party seemingly tailor their policies to what is most popular on Twitter that day if Twitter isn't that important?
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What has really been bugging me is the rumours that the G7 meeting only took 12 minutes.
That is a really short time for a meeting of 7 leaders, unless there is nothing to talk about and there is already consensus on everything. I find it unlikely that there was nothing to talk about since at least 5 of the countries are openly worried about having citizens left behind enemy lines.
This can surely not help diplomatic relations between US and the other G7 members.
That is a really short time for a meeting of 7 leaders, unless there is nothing to talk about and there is already consensus on everything. I find it unlikely that there was nothing to talk about since at least 5 of the countries are openly worried about having citizens left behind enemy lines.
This can surely not help diplomatic relations between US and the other G7 members.
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At this point there are enough people still trapped there that literally millions of Americans will be no more than 2 to 3 steps removed from someone who was actually fucking there, either as part of the military side of the evac or a citizen living in Afgahnistan. People are morons, but they'll still believe their wife's cousin over a fucking news anchor.
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