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If ADE becomes a big, massive, documented and agreed upon thing, that fucks loads of people up, will it mean Drain Todger is going on the next Kiwi coin?. Maybe framed with 'In Really Long Autistic Posts We Trust', or some shit.

Was he the first to call it? . That was all some time ago.

Not to detract from his 'tism but this was always going to happen. You have to separate the narrative from reality.

Any biologist worth his salt could tell you this was going to happen from day #1. Any immunologist could've told you in December of 2019 that we'd be here by now. These are basic facts that the media has tried to ignore and only acknowledge when convenient.
 

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"Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020."

"All 23 complete genome sequences belonged to the Delta variant and were phylogenetically distinct from the contemporary Delta variant sequences obtained from community transmission cases, suggestive of ongoing transmission between the workers."

Can someone smarter than me explain this, 'cause it sounds like Covid mutates very rapidly and that vaccines actually make transmission worse.
The head of the CDC put out a statement about this already back at the end of July. I can't find it anymore but I read it on CNBC. She said they had seen a few "rare" cases where the viral load was very high in vaccinated people, but of course it was still no reason non to get vaccinated.
 
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I noticed that its always the most unfit, porkers who are mask nazis. Other day I was at a grocery store and some fat guy was bitching about no one wearing their masks, and gloating at that dead conservative guy died for not being vaxxed (and of course featuring Bad Orangeman™). Along with being fat, he had a shitty bandana cloth mask and was putting pizza supremes and 2L coke bottles in his cart.
They could get serious and lose weight/get fit to reduce their chances of getting the coof (or any cancer disease for being fat) but of course its just an opportunity to power coom.
I make great use of this phenomenon when running maskless. 0% of idiots yelling at me on the streets to wear a mask while running are fast enough to keep up with me. Keep scolding my retreating backside, Karen, I don't give a fuck.
The one thing people forget when praying to the feet of these so called experts, or doctors, is that someone always finishes last in class. Not every doctor is going to be graduating with honors. Of course that is beside the fact they don’t have intelligence, just good memories.
how do you know this expert who is pushing for these policies; didn’t just barely pass his exams?
I think a lot of normies either misunderstand or misrepresent the actual concerns of people like you and me. I don't think I know more than the highly trained experts. I think I have my best interests in mind, and they don't. It's not a matter of education, it's a matter of trust and intent. The system is rigged effectively enough by the people at the top that even a ground-level physician who really does care about my well-being is very effectively incentivized not to prioritize it, at least in the case of these vaccines. I don't trust that. As the saying goes, you don't have to know how to fly a helicopter to know someone fucked up when you see one upside-down in a tree. I don't have to understand the exact mechanism being used to get mRNA into my cells to know when something doesn't pass the smell test.
Tiffany Dover's husband is single now.
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I personally think he posted the Feb IG post on her account.
Or they broke up? When you hear hoofbeats, think horses.
 
Also did anyone see this?
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So there's a treatment, you say? What does that mean in terms of vaxx requirements?
  1. Lie about early treatments as excuse to pretend there are no alternative treatments as a pretext to rubberstamp emergency use authorization and force the dangerous and worthless vaccine.
  2. Once the corrupt FDA rubberstamps the dangerous and worthless vaccine, that pretext is no longer needed.
  3. Pretend you were always for safe and effective non-vaccine treatments.
It's time to hang this piece of shit Fauci. And make it illegal for any news organization to ever make people listen to his voice ever again.
 
What do we know about this new governor? Is it the same as the old boss? I do remember people saying that the big scandal was Cuomo not being upfront because he was trying to position himself as the face of the anti Trump movement.
She's kind of a cipher, a great unknown who came from the west of the state. She didn't do shit or have any authority during his administration. She wasn't even at his side during his Emmy Award Winning press conferences.

The scary thing is she could come out swinging with sweeping COVID restrictions to prove herself and distance herself from Cuomo. She can go farther than he ever did (he was mild compared to Whitmer and Newsom) by playing up that he was a failure.

She could also be so weak and have no clue how Albany politics works that she becomes a pawn of the legislative branch or worse, the Biden administration.

I am a bit worried about what is to come for mask and vax mandates in the state.
 
I was looking to see what Summerfest required insofar as their requirement for either a vax card or a negative test. Found out you can display either via a screenshot on your phone, as long as the entire front of the card is visible. Searching around, I see no requirement for an ID to enter the grounds - so how effective can this POSSIBLY be? So many cards are floating around you can screenshot your own easily, and just say you're that person. Idiotic.

Although I'd kind of like to see a major spike after the first two weekends... "b-b-but we were all vaxxed!!"

Cue the precursor to the digital passport, those paper cards simply will not do!
 
To think that Chris Chan went to prison for raping his elderly mother while other people are going to prison for not wearing a mask outside their home. Clown world.


Its no longer Clownworld,

Clownworld was novel and funny and wasn't widespread and in your face. It was an occasional article or law that made no sense. No no no we left Clownworld back last October.

We are now in Demonworld. Here it is in your face, you must comply. Here we are no longer the majority and things only get wierder. Clown world was funny, in Demonworld we just want it to stop.

Next up in Hellworld. Thats where we physically are put in camps for Internet posts and wrong think. Estimated time of arrive seems to be in the next 84 months.

How did we get here? A generation of Incompetent millennials are now taking the reins. Planes like the 737 MaxX get approved because people are too lazy to read paperwork and Experimental vaccines that do not work are made mandatory because Pfizer has bribed everyone.


The way to survive is no Longer containment, but Isolation. You must be prepared to completely leave society because society has gone mad.

Be prepared to either survive off Crypto or the land. Either way you will be demonized for non-compliance and your life will be ruined.
 
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I can't wait until it's Trump's fault that the vaccine doesn't work and how awful of a president he was for selling the false hope they did and how he personally murdered or injured hundred of thousands of Americans. Maybe they'll bring that one out for 2024 if Trump runs again?

Someone at Big Pharma has a death note that killed the leaders of Haiti, Burundi, and Tanzania so far so they better watch out.
Big Pharma should be careful if the Japanese also have their own death note as well...
 
I was looking to see what Summerfest required insofar as their requirement for either a vax card or a negative test. Found out you can display either via a screenshot on your phone, as long as the entire front of the card is visible. Searching around, I see no requirement for an ID to enter the grounds - so how effective can this POSSIBLY be? So many cards are floating around you can screenshot your own easily, and just say you're that person. Idiotic.

Although I'd kind of like to see a major spike after the first two weekends... "b-b-but we were all vaxxed!!"

Cue the precursor to the digital passport, those paper cards simply will not do!
I'm going to the Decibel Metal and Beer fest in September that requires proof of vaccination, but you're allowed to show picture of your card on your phone. I'm sure they think this prevents people people from just downloading a blank card from the internet and scribbling something in the blanks and showing that to the bouncer, who probably doesn't care anyway. Masks are also required unless actively eating drinking, but I'm pretty sure no one's going to pay attention to that.

Meanwhile, the club down the street has been having dancing parties down the streets that supposedly require masks, but then they're posting pictures on their Facebook that show absolutely no one is wearing a mask. This is in Philadelphia, so I assume enforcement of this sort of thing is really half-assed, much like every other law in the city.
 
Btw, i am hearing there are about to be a shitload of dishonorable discharges in the Military between now and next month

If I had to guess it will be somewhere around 15%. Alot of older talent is heading for the exit.

This will devastate our warfighting capability and I suspect China is watching this exodus very closely because it may be the perfect time to grab Taiwan
 
This latest Joe Rogan clip is both painful to watch and incredibly insightful into just how the Covid Cult can transform what was a fairly rational human into a nutcase:
Dr. Rhonda Patrick on Vaccine Misinformation and Long-haul Covid

Almost the exact parallel with Claire Lehmann who started https://quillette.com/

Covid has caused her to lose her fucking mind. I don't doubt that the FDA and the rest of the government has been captured by big pharma. And that all these huge Klaus Schwab type people and organizations are frantically trying to use covid to enact their lunatic world remaking plans.

But for these two pathetic women, I think it is clear that they are just victims of a new type of modern mental illness. No one is paying them off to push Covid Cult propaganda or threatening them. They are just two sick individuals.

Divorce them from social media and mainstream media. Present them with data that is not associated with the covid branding or taint, and they would be like alcoholics who are forced to face themselves in the mirror sober. Just like how jarring it is to see a very drunk person in a normal daily life setting, people like these two sad Covid Cult victims are the very same. The cringe video is literally watching a twitter(drunk) person wander into the real world where their actions are just embarrassing and they no longer can block everyone who tells them the have had too much too much drink.

For both of these women the reactions to these public humiliations is to lock down hard, block more, and retreat to their ever shrinking echo chamber.

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"Health care professionals HAVE to submit to VAERS if it's life threatening" The doctors who were supposed to submit my family member's fatal myocarditis (cardiac arrest induced by inflammation) event (3 hours after her second shot) to VAERS never did. It's been 3 months, and when I pulled the latest dataset from VAERS, there wasn't a single record for her age/gender and state with anything related to a cardiac event.
That being said, Dr. Patrick is hopelessly naive about under-reporting. The doctors were clearly deathly afraid of their licensing board and wouldn't mention her cardiac arrest being an adverse event until after over a week, after a cardiologist determined that her heart was normal and that the cardiac arrest wasn't induced by a blockage or stroke.
Over and over again you hear these stories in places like https://old.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/ The tranny mods are quick to delete the victims of the vaccine, but there are enough of them throughout the comments that it is obvious that the already huge number being reported on VAERS is a tiny fraction of the damage these worthless and dangerous vaccines are doing.

There are two specific cases of doctor/health professional malfeasance:
  1. Covid vaccine victims being told essentially to fuck off and stop making trouble or their symptoms being hand waved away as just minor complaints
  2. Not reporting deaths and other forms of injury to VAERS because they can't let the 'other team win'
 
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OMFG the slimeball mayor of my city Tom Barrett is leaving office!

Days after announcing all city employees have to be vaxxed, he's apparently been chosen to be the fucking ambassador to Luxembourg.

HAHAHAHAHA don't let the door hit you in the ass, fool. Now maybe we can dismantle that stupid streetcar to nowhere that still has NO FARE to ride it. A moving homeless shelter, basically.

Christ, this ride never fucking ends.
 
This latest Joe Rogan clip is both painful to watch and incredibly insightful into just how the Covid Cult can transform what was a fairly rational human into a nutcase:
Dr. Rhonda Patrick on Vaccine Misinformation and Long-haul Covid
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Almost the exact parallel with Claire Lehmann who started https://quillette.com/

Covid has caused her to lose her fucking mind. I don't doubt that the FDA and the rest of the government has been captured by big pharma. And that all these huge Klaus Schwab type people and organizations are frantically trying to use covid to enact their lunatic world remaking plans.

But for these two pathetic women, I think it is clear that they are just victims of a new type of modern mental illness. No one is paying them off to push Covid Cult propaganda or threatening them. They are just two sick individuals.

Divorce them from social media and mainstream media. Present them with data that is not associated with the covid branding or taint, and they would be like alcoholics who are forced to face themselves in the mirror sober. Just like how jarring it is to see a very drunk person in a normal daily life setting, people like these two sad Covid Cult victims are the very same. The cringe video is literally watching a twitter(drunk) person wander into the real world where their actions are just embarrassing and they no longer can block everyone who tells them the have had too much too much drink.

For both of these women the reactions to these public humiliations is to lock down hard, block more, and retreat to their ever shrinking echo chamber.
It's weird reading a mix of the comments. 50% on Rogan's side and 50% are on the doctor's side. But notably, for the people on the doctor's side, their ONLY argument is "she's a doctor and Rogan is not." That's their entire argument; an appeal to authority. There no amount of evidence they will ever accept from Rogan simply because he's not a doctor, even if the doctor can't provide facts and can literallly be proven wrong by data.
 
Article: https://longisland.news12.com/new-ny-governor-adds-12-000-deaths-to-publicized-covid-tally
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New NY governor adds 12,000 deaths to publicized COVID tally​


New York Gov. Kathy Hochul promised more government transparency on her first day in office and by day’s end her administration had quietly delivered it by acknowledging nearly 12,000 more deaths in the state from COVID-19 than had been publicized by her predecessor, Andrew Cuomo.

New York now reports nearly 55,400 people have died of COVID-19 in New York based on death certificate data submitted to the CDC, up from about 43,400 that Gov. Cuomo had reported to the public as of Monday, his last day in office.

“We’re now releasing more data than had been released before publicly, so people know the nursing home deaths and the hospital deaths are consistent with what’s being displayed by the CDC,” Hochul said Wednesday on MSNBC. “There’s a lot of things that weren’t happening and I’m going to make them happen. Transparency will be the hallmark of my administration.”

The Associated Press first reported in July on the large discrepancy between the fatality numbers publicized by the Cuomo administration and numbers the state was reporting to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The count used by Cuomo in his news media briefings only included laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 deaths reported through a state system that collects data from hospitals, nursing homes and adult care facilities. That meant the tally excluded people who died at home, hospice, in state prisons or at state-run homes for people living with disabilities. It also excluded people who likely died of COVID-19 but never got a positive test to confirm the diagnosis.

That lower number favored by the Cuomo administration still appeared in the daily update put out by Hochul’s office Tuesday, but with an explanation about why it was an incomplete count.

“There are presumed and confirmed deaths. People should know both," Hochul said in a Wednesday morning appearance on NPR. "Also, as of yesterday, we’re using CDC numbers, which will be consistent. And so there’s no opportunity for us to mask those numbers, nor do I want to mask those numbers. The public deserves a clear, honest picture of what’s happening. And that’s whether it’s good or bad, they need to know the truth. And that’s how we restore confidence.”

Cuomo's critics had long charged that he was manipulating coronavirus statics to burnish his image as a pandemic leader.

Federal prosecutors previously launched a probe examining his administration's handling of data around deaths among nursing home patients. The state, under Cuomo, had minimized its toll of nursing home residents’ deaths by excluding all patients who died after being transferred to hospitals.

Cuomo used those lower numbers last year to erroneously claim that New York was seeing a much smaller percentage of nursing home residents dying of COVID-19 than other states.

The state Assembly Judiciary committee has also been investigating that issue as part of a wide-ranging impeachment probe, and is weighing whether to include those findings in a public report.
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OMFG the slimeball mayor of my city Tom Barrett is leaving office!

Days after announcing all city employees have to be vaxxed, he's apparently been chosen to be the fucking ambassador to Luxembourg.

HAHAHAHAHA don't let the door hit you in the ass, fool. Now maybe we can dismantle that stupid streetcar to nowhere that still has NO FARE to ride it. A moving homeless shelter, basically.

Christ, this ride never fucking ends.

Wow. I cant believe that asshole is still mayor. I lived in Racine Wisconsin in 2003 and he was in office then and before that he was commissioner or something. He was fucking running for office when womens were in rooms full of typewriters smoking ciggarrettes.

What a fucking career politician faggot. I am sure he will be replaced with some woke sheboon like all the other white democrat mayors.

That guy was so corrupt, I remember even in the early 2000's he was part of a huge DRIVE movement where they would drive down from Milwaukee and hand of cash and cigarettes' to niggers in south Racine to get them to vote democrat when otherwise they would of stayed home.
 
I'm going to the Decibel Metal and Beer fest in September that requires proof of vaccination, but you're allowed to show picture of your card on your phone. I'm sure they think this prevents people people from just downloading a blank card from the internet and scribbling something in the blanks and showing that to the bouncer, who probably doesn't care anyway. Masks are also required unless actively eating drinking, but I'm pretty sure no one's going to pay attention to that.

Meanwhile, the club down the street has been having dancing parties down the streets that supposedly require masks, but then they're posting pictures on their Facebook that show absolutely no one is wearing a mask. This is in Philadelphia, so I assume enforcement of this sort of thing is really half-assed, much like every other law in the city.
It's been like that for most of the year so far, if anyone's wondering. Kind of surprising given how much of a deep blue shithole it is.
 
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Over and over again you hear these stories in places like https://old.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/ The tranny mods are quick to delete the victims of the vaccine, but there are enough of them throughout the comments that it is obvious that the already huge number being reported on VAERS is a tiny fraction of the damage these worthless and dangerous vaccines are doing.

There are two specific cases of doctor/health professional malfeasance:
  1. Covid vaccine victims being told essentially to fuck off and stop making trouble or their symptoms being hand waved away as just minor complaints
  2. Not reporting deaths and other forms of injury to VAERS because they can't let the 'other team win'
This made me think of the article I just read where the Minnesota Vikings (NFL team) brought in a epidemiologist to "dispel disinformation" about the vaccine.


A rumor that 6,700 people had died from taking the vaccine. Absolutely not true.
No statement on what the actual number is though. Just that 6700 is totally bullshit, guys.

I also liked this argument:

“If you’re a leader on a football team, it’s about the community looking to you. Young men and women in our community saying in fact, ‘If they’re not going to get it, why should I get it? But if they do get it, maybe I should get it.’ And so I think it was really an ideal opportunity to kind of share about vaccine and what it means to the community.”

Just flat out saying "you should get it so others will get it too." That sounds unbiased.
 
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Wow. I cant believe that asshole is still mayor. I lived in Racine Wisconsin in 2003 and he was in office then and before that he was commissioner or something. He was fucking running for office when womens were in rooms full of typewriters smoking ciggarrettes.

What a fucking career politician faggot. I am sure he will be replaced with some woke sheboon like all the other white democrat mayors.

That guy was so corrupt, I remember even in the early 2000's he was part of a huge DRIVE movement where they would drive down from Milwaukee and hand of cash and cigarettes' to niggers in south Racine to get them to vote democrat when otherwise they would of stayed home.
Cavalier Johnson will be the interim mayor. Close, though.
Seems clean and literate.

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Wonder if he's gonna stand behind the vax order as a black man. Lots of city workers are black, I'd venture to say at least 70 percent. You gotta remember this includes trash collectors, plow drivers, etc. Will they actually terminate people if they don't comply, as Barrett said (after a 30 day suspension and continued noncompliance)?
 
The pharmacists subreddit is a total trainwreck.
A fascinating discussion here about what to do when those pesky doctors prescribe Ivermectin. Lots of people saying they lie. Other people saying they would be at risk legally if they filled Rx for unproven medicines. I wonder if the ones who are lying realise what a grave situation they could be putting themselves in.

 
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Will we need vaccine passports to do fun things?
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Ready to go out on the town before summer ends? In parts of the U.S., you might have to carry your COVID-19 vaccine card or a digital copy to get into restaurants, bars, nightclubs and outdoor music festivals.

After resisting the divisive concept of vaccine passports through most of the pandemic, a fast-growing number of private venues and some local officials are now requiring proof of immunization in public settings to reduce the spread of the highly transmissible delta variant of the coronavirus - and to assuage wary customers.

It's unlikely the U.S. will adopt a national mandate like the one in France, which began requiring people to show a QR code proving they have a special virus pass before they can enjoy restaurants and cafes or travel across the country.

But enough venues are starting to ask for digital passes to worry some privacy advocates, who fear the trend could habituate consumers to constant tracking.

WHO'S ASKING FOR VACCINE PASSPORTS?
New York City set the tone when Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that the city will require proof of COVID-19 vaccination for anyone who wants to dine indoors at a restaurant, see a performance or go to the gym.

But a growing number of private venues, from Broadway theaters to music clubs in Minneapolis and Milwaukee, have established their own similar rules for patrons.

“I’m a firm believer in the right for people to choose whether or not they get the vaccine,” said Tami Montgomery, owner of Dru’s Bar in Memphis, Tennessee, which will start asking for paper vaccine cards along with photo identification on Thursday. “But it’s my business and I have to make decisions based on what will protect my staff, business and customers.”

Organizers of the Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago said on its opening day in late July that more than 90% of some 100,000 attendees presented proof of a vaccination, while most of the rest showed they'd recently had a negative COVID-19 test. Hundreds of others were turned away for lack of paperwork.

Only in a handful of states - Texas and Florida are the biggest - are private businesses prohibited from requiring proof of vaccination.
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HOW DO THEY WORK?
In some places, venues are simply asking you to bring your vaccination card - the same piece of paper you get from health providers and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Taking a picture of that card at home and then showing the image to the bouncer at the club can also work.

New York City offers a streamlined way of showing a photo through its NYC COVID Safe App, in which people can store images of their vaccine cards and then display them in the app when needed.

Other places are encouraging people to register their credentials using a scannable digital pass like New York's statewide Excelsior Pass or similar systems adopted by California, Hawaii and Louisiana and private companies like Walmart and the airport security app Clear. Some of the state-sponsored digital passes verify a person's vaccine credentials through a state or local immunization registry.

Such passes are designed for convenience and to prevent fraud. But that's also where the biggest privacy concerns emerge, said Adam Schwartz, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
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WHAT'S WRONG WITH QR CODES?
The barcode known as a QR code was originally designed to help track products in a factory. These days, it's increasingly being used to track people's devices.

“Those systems are a giant leap towards tracking people’s location,” Schwartz said. “There’s a very real risk of mission creep once there are scanners at doors and people are showing their scannable token to pass through.”

But the coalition that helped create the Smart Health Card framework used by New York, California and the Canadian province of Quebec say they've already set privacy safeguards to guard against misuse of health data.

So long as a venue is using a VCI-compliant scanner, there shouldn't be anything to worry about, said Dr. Brian Anderson, chief digital health physician at MITRE and co-lead of the Vaccination Credential Initiative, which counts Apple, Microsoft and the Mayo Clinic among its members. “That app won't store an individual's data beyond the time that the QR code is scanned," he said.
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WHY NOT STICK WITH PAPER?
Proponents of digital passports say they're more convenient for already-overwhelmed restaurants and other venues because workers don't have to peer at everyone's vaccine cards before letting them in. Lines move faster, and the digital scan reassures those who don't want to risk damaging or losing their paper cards. It's also easy to fake a paper card or a photo of one.

The startup CrowdPass, which generates QR codes so vaccinated people can attend events, said it helped get about 15,000 people swiftly admitted into the recent Newport Folk and Newport Jazz festivals in Rhode Island. The events required attendees to digitally upload proof of full vaccination or a recent negative test.

Demand was slow at first, said Duncan Abdelnour, the startup's co-founder and president. “But since the delta variant has sprung, we’ve had a huge uptick." Among its clients are couples planning weddings and organizers of other small events. Abdelnour said the biggest spike in calls came after New York City's announcement.

It's a crowded market that includes apps made by Clear and Walmart, many of which have now signed onto the VCI's privacy standards and code of conduct.

But for Schwartz, of the EFF, the best advice for venues that need to see proof of vaccination is to stick to asking for the CDC card or a photo of it.

The process of making vaccination checks should end when the pandemic does, Schwartz said. “Some of the companies that are in this space have a track record of being in the business of monetizing data," he added. "I’m not going to name names, but they’re the last people that should be involved in developing scanners for proof of vaccination.”
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