Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

WinchesterWhiskey said:
My buddy James who works with veterans within the firearm community is feeling the same way and is hurting over the fact that he feels he can't help a lot of the guys he's come really close with. He's given speeches on some things he's been through and does his best with telling them that if they just make their voices heard it'll mean something.

He's kind of a suicidal wreck right now and feel like he's failed them because even he's not believing that anyone's up there listening.
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unironically, I think this is what he needs to hear. what a lot of americans need to hear atm:

 
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Diana Moon Glampers said:
The Pax Americana is over. The time when we could go to third-world countries and tell people "work for us, inform for us, we'll keep you safe" and have them believe us is gone, completely, and it will impact our intelligence and military operations for decades. Trust that has been broken this badly cannot be repaired. Everyone who helps America knows that they could spend the last moments of their lives in a shit-filled canal until a bomber blows them to smithereens.
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The Pax Americana was never about that aim, it was the promotion of global trade, open seas free of piracy, and no fighting between major powers.
 
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Pretty interesting to look back at this clip. Especially whn we were supplying the Afghanistani rebels with arms and training support. The Soviet Union asked for a ceasefire, and for us to stop supplying the rebels with munitions. George HW Bush refused. This was 32 years ago.
(16 Feb 1989) President George H.W. Bush told reporters he hopes the final pullout of Soviet armed forces from Afghanistan ensures no more violence in the war-torn nation. While applauding the troop withdrawal as a new chapter in the history of Afghanistan, Bush rejected a Kremlin call for an immediate cease-fire and arms embargo. Answering questions from a group of reporters in the Oval Office, he said he was afraid rebels opposing the Soviet-backed Kabul government would be left in a disadvantageous position if U.S. assistance stopped. Bush's comments came a day after the final pullout of Red Army forces from Afghanistan after a nine-year occupation. Bush said he could not endorse the cease-fire and arms embargo proposal because he was concerned Soviet forces may have stockpiled weapons for the Marxist government in Kabul.
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attractive_pneumonia said:
The Pax Americana was never about that aim, it was the promotion of global trade, open seas free of piracy, and no fighting between major powers.
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And all of that required a lot of people covertly working with the United States with the notion that big choppers would come to rescue them if shit ever hit the fan.
 
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дядя Боря said:
endgame in chess, starts when one player sees the path to victory or defeat, clearly enough that it's just mechanics. I think that point happened a while back, but most of us, just like rookie players won't see it until there is an actual checkmate on the board. The end of planes is the checkmate.



I'm not sure Veg in chief can do it. What is dead can not die.
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Nigga I saw it the moment this brain dead faggot we call a President began the bungled evac. The Taliban saw every move we could make resulted in checkmate but like the idiots Biden and his flunkies are they kept playing thinking they could regain a Queen when they are surrounded on all sides.

Checkmate happened a while back.

even rookie player would have seen it but not this bunch of cyka
 
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Diana Moon Glampers said:
I'm going to admit it.

Until literally yesterday, I thought maybe there was some secret plan.

The military branches, the alphabet agencies...I thought, you know, these people can't really be this clueless. There's a plan but part of the plan is about looking clueless.

It was a cope. A cope because once upon a time I was a little kid who went to the Fourth of July parade and ran to scoop up the peppermints thrown from the parade floats full of veterans. A cope because even when our politicians have been absolute trash fires, I have known so many fine military service members that it seemed like they'd be on the ball, even when Washington was letting us down.

I believed in the US military more than I believed in the US government overall.

But that was just an illusion. No one's coming for those people. There's no last-minute rescue, just dying in the ditch like a dog.
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The US Military is still one of the top institutions in the country if not world. The military is run by the Sergeants and a heavy proportion of them as good as ever, the troops on t he ground in Kabul get top marks as always. Militaries have always had the problem of "lions led by donkeys" but in the past decade there has been some real rot entering from the bottom, particularly in the Navy and being projected down with this CRT shit.
 
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Calandrino said:
I think I miss the rainbow sticker the most. I liked putting rainbows on all the AMERICA IS DOOMED, WE'RE ALL FUCKED posts. Maybe nobody else ever noticed, but to me, it was funny every single time I did it.
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Like the Shakespearean sonnet or the crank call restriction on form breeds creativity though
 
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The US president is set to speak shortly at the White House about the deadly attack on US forces and Afghan civilians at Kabul airport.

 
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