Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

Mr Snek said:
Not usually, mostly socializing just pisses me off and makes me depressed so I don't like doing it. Life experience is what convinced me that women will use any lie or scam to fuck men over.
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Everyone, male or female, you meet in public who tries to talk to you wants something, and it's not a relationship, it's money, to join their cult/mlm, to sign their petition, etc.
 
Never Scored said:
The thing is you see your parents interact more than any other couple until you're with someone yourself for a while. It's going to be your model for relationships. It doesn't make him right, but it's understandable. That's why it's important to be careful who you choose to have kids with. The way you get along with this person will influence your kids for the rest of their lives. No offense intended toward Mr Snek, nobody asks to be born, but if his mom was his father's only option, his father probably shouldn't have had kids. You brought your kids into existence, you owe them happiness and stability until they grow into fully functional adults. His parents didn't give him that and now he's all fucked up because of it.
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Er well, my parents were fuckups, but me and all of my siblings ended up successful and productive adults despite it. After a certain point, you have to accept responsibility for your own life and grow the fuck up. Blaming your parents for all your woes will get you nowhere. Learning from them and being better than them will get you everywhere.
 
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Mr Snek said:
Trying not to powerlevel too much, but witnessing my mother accuse my father of being everything from a pedophile to a part of organised crime every night and having to physically stop her from attacking him with a knife several times is a good enough reason to hate women to me. And in spite of all of that, any time I brought it up with my dad he said she was still the best choice he had. Also a friend had a girl split up with him by sending him a video of her getting gangbanged.
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Your need of a positive mother figure is nothing to be ashamed about if you can be honest about it and work through it. Try just looking for someone you don't have to be guarded around.
 
davids877 said:
Everyone, male or female, you meet in public who tries to talk to you wants something, and it's not a relationship, it's money, to join their cult/mlm, to sign their petition, etc.
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I repeat: I have no idea how people date these days. If they aren't grifting you they're on their phones.
 
Penrowe said:
Are you really so uninteresting people find no value in what you have to say?
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I’ll agree with him here, that is possible - if your life has been completely devoid of the usual life experiences, then you will have increasingly less and less to say of interest - foregoing dating, social occasions, hobbies, clubs/societies, unions, self-improvement, driving etc etc - as you get older, the gulf widens and less of what you say is relevant. Couple that with the delusional and narcissistic tendencies, and you end up being someone that even the Jehovah’s Witnesses and trainspotters cross the street to avoid.
 
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Mr Snek said:
Trying not to powerlevel too much, but witnessing my mother accuse my father of being everything from a pedophile to a part of organised crime every night and having to physically stop her from attacking him with a knife several times is a good enough reason to hate women to me. And in spite of all of that, any time I brought it up with my dad he said she was still the best choice he had. Also a friend had a girl split up with him by sending him a video of her getting gangbanged.
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My Dad was a wife beating, alcoholic cunt. Should I hate all men because of him? Grow the fuck up.
 
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Penrowe said:
Are you really so uninteresting people find no value in what you have to say?
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Well yes. But people approaching you in public don't know that so it's pretty obvious that they're not approaching you to see what you have to say.

And really, there are plenty of people who value what I have to say, but those people I charge by the hour.
 
Shadfan666xxx000 said:
Your need of a positive mother figure is nothing to be ashamed about if you can be honest about it and work through it. Try just looking for someone you don't have to be guarded around.
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My mom used a pedophile to sexually abuse me, and then ran cover for it so I could never get help. Is it my fault, am I to blame?
 
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LatinasAreTheFuture said:
My mom used a pedophile to sexually abuse me, and then ran cover for it so I could never get help. Is it my fault, am I to blame?
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No. We have a whole generation of people with serious parental issues that's fucking up the whole gender dynamic years down the road. The people you grow up with are ultimately the ones who decide how you see others and it's not an easy fix no matter how you split it.
 
Shadfan666xxx000 said:
No. We have a whole generation of people with serious parental issues that's fucking up the whole gender dynamic years down the road. The people you grow up with are ultimately the ones who decide how you see others and it's not an easy fix no matter how you split it.
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so what is the solution? How do I fix this?
 
It's perfectly fine to recognize patterns and trends among the opposite sex and conclude you don't want to fuck with it because it's more trouble than it's worth but we need to peel away from this reptile emotional response of shitting on one gender as a whole. "Oh my god my (parent of the opposite sex) really sucked growing up, how could I NOT hate that gender?"
Like I understand that response from an emotional level but have you taken even five fucking minutes to actually think out that logic? You're letting one person represent a 'group' of people that are made up in the literal billions? Come the fuck on whatever your mother did growing up someone else out there had a father doing the same shit in principle, both of you can't be right for hating that sex, but both of you are wrong.

Men and women both have their strengths and weakness, it's like hormones, you find both test and est in males and females but one has a lot more test than est and vice versa. Once you recognize that you can begin to view people less as just their sex and more as individual humans which is the more grounded and realistic outlook that you can actually use to traverse the world.
 
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Shadfan666xxx000 said:
Therapy, life goals and a positive community are helpful albeit much easier said than done of course. It's an unseen epidemic among most people under 40 and incels are just an exacerbated case.
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No you’re not listening to me. This isn’t my fault, why do I have to pay for it?
 
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LatinasAreTheFuture said:
My mom used a pedophile to sexually abuse me, and then ran cover for it so I could never get help. Is it my fault, am I to blame?
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Let me ask you this, if this has tainted your view on women, has it equally tainted your view of people the same height as her? same hair color? same weight? job? location? accent? etc
Chances are no, and you have to ask yourself why your response has been limited to her gender
 
LatinasAreTheFuture said:
No you’re not listening to me. This isn’t my fault, why do I have to pay for it?
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Because nobody else can. You could find someone to spoil you and wipe your ass all you want, but they can't put the work into healing if you don't follow the work too. Imagine if you got some kind of a freak stroke even though you did everything right and lost the use of your arm. The doctors could patch you up and help your recovery but if you don't work in the therapy, you'll lose your arm by your own fault at that point.
 
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Shadfan666xxx000 said:
Because nobody else can. You could find someone to spoil you and wipe your ass all you want, but they can't put the work into healing if you don't follow the work too. Imagine if you got some kind of a freak stroke even though you did everything right and lost the use of your arm. The doctors could patch you up and help your recovery but if you don't work in the therapy, you'll lose your arm by your own fault at that p
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Are you high nigger?
 
You see here’s the problem, what happened to me happened when I was an innocent child. You cant blame me. So why with the finger pointing?
 
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