US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Salubrious]

I know it's fantasy. I don't believe in any of those words, but if I use them on NPC's, I can get them to do whatever I want.

And while you may have more Optimism, I have more Autism.

I understand, but I think you are underestimating how much this Afghan disaster will stick with people.

All of Biden's other fuck ups on the economy and even COVID I could maybe see getting swept. This one is going to stick with people. Especially his younger voting block. Anyone between 18-40, this war has been going on more than half their lives. If Biden had withdrawn cleanly this could be a win. But Biden keeps going on TV and openly stating that we are "working with" a.k.a. relying on the Taliban now. Even the most non-political normie is furious with this situation right now because basically the Taliban have "won." If we had withdrawn by May 1st and in mid-August the Taliban took over maybe they could have shrugged. But the Taliban took over while we are still there. This is a loss, and a BIG loss, of a war that we've been fighting for 2 decades against the most evil people in the world.

It's only slight exaggeration that some normies look at this as if the Nazis had actually won WW2; that's how much the Taliban and ISIS are hated.

 

[TaterFarmer]

Are they trying to turn this dumpster fire into a wastedump fire for some extra tragedy value?

The Centralia PA dump has been burning since 1962, no reason Biden's shit won't burn for a half a century if he puts a bit of creativity into it.

 

[Billy Beer]

I understand, but I think you are underestimating how much this Afghan disaster will stick with people.

Which people? Brain-dead NPC's, those who don't care or the Trump-supporting Qanon anti-vax homophobes?

I don't disagree with what you or Gehenna, but i've seen masses of normies whipped in to a frenzy over nothing. It's even easier to demonstrate thanks to COVID; how many people wear, swear-by and defend masks? Lockdowns? Social distancing?

I would even go as far as saying that the 'accusations' of the MSM going hard on Biden, is just a way for the MSM to then apologise for going hard on Biden, admitting they were wrong and that Biden is a hero. No mean tweets.

 

[Gehenna]

Which people? Brain-dead NPC's, those who don't care or the Trump-supporting Qanon anti-vax homophobes?

I don't disagree with what you or Gehenna, but i've seen masses of normies whipped in to a frenzy over nothing. It's even easier to demonstrate thanks to COVID; how many people wear, swear-by and defend masks? Lockdowns? Social distancing?

I would even go as far as saying that the 'accusations' of the MSM going hard on Biden, is just a way for the MSM to then apologise for going hard on Biden, admitting they were wrong and that Biden is a hero. No mean tweets.

Ironically, you bring up the best counterpoint to your point. Covid. People got brought up to a frenzy, enough it was the one thing Biden had going for him. And what was the result?

Over a year, almost two, of everyone and their dog following someone like fucking -Fauci-, a man with the personality of a wet shoe. Covid got everyone to pay attention, and the result was things moving because the attention remained well after the event that kicked it off.


Now apply that to this clusterfuck. They aren't going to suddenly stop paying attention just because Biden smiles at a camera and says "Mission Accomplished". Not after they know of the bodies and how badly that "accomplished" was achieved.

 

[anti SJW]

Whats the odds Vegas has on if there will be a White House briefing today?

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Alright fellas how many terrorist attacks will we get today?

 

[Gehenna]

Alright fellas how many terrorist attacks will we get today?

Generally ISIS staggers its attacks, so unless the security is -truly- fucked, none.

 

[Billy Beer]

Ironically, you bring up the best counterpoint to your point. Covid. People got brought up to a frenzy, enough it was the one thing Biden had going for him. And what was the result?

Over a year, almost two, of everyone and their dog following someone like fucking -Fauci-, a man with the personality of a wet shoe. Covid got everyone to pay attention, and the result was things moving because the attention remained well after the event that kicked it off.

People do remember it. They remember Trump killed 600,000 people. That Fauci and the SCIENCE are correct in everything they say, even when it's a contradiction; two weeks to flatten the curve, masks work and they don't, but keep wearing them. You only need one, two, vaccines, as they have 90%, 80%, 60% ~40% efficacy against all strains, alpha, beta, it varies. There will be no a need for boosters...etc etc etc

Do you know why Tarot readers, Clairvoyents and fortune tellers are so effective against people? Because the average mong has a shitty, selective memory and people are always the hero's of their own stories and embellish things to make them sound more exciting. "something happened in November" when remembered and told to friends becomes "He totally knew my Dad's birthday was November".

Now apply that to this clusterfuck? THey aren't going to suddenly stop paying attention just because Biden smiles at a camera and says "Mission Accomplished". Not after they know of the bodies and how badly that "accomplished" was.

It being a clusterfuck makes it easier to forget. Nobody wants to remember bad, uncomfortable or painful events, especially not in the fuck-hole society we live in today, where people have a breakdown over the smallest thing. NO mean tweets!! And the brutal fact is, nobody cares how many people died, as long as they can be on the winning team and part of the winning story, those bodies will be "no biggie"

You can view the MSM and SM has having no influence, but then how did Biden win most popular president?

Either he cheated and rigged the election, or, MSM and SM have a significant impact on the majority of people. Which is more likely?

 

[Tour of Italy]

That's not how approval works, that's never -been- how approval works. Even the Cult of Obama could never do that and the media -ravenously- simped the man.

Like, this is so divorced from reality, even ignoring the fact that Biden has yet to have a good event to begin with, that it's just fantasy.

Obama's popularity and America's standing in the world had a slow but steady downward trend throughout his tenure, as they were promised sunshine and rainbows and were delivered more forever war and a fucking trainwreck of an economy.

Trumps popularity and international opinion of the US started rock bottom but grew quite healthily in just 4 years as they were promised Hitler at the start but were delivered relative competence and mild reform. Not to mention the world changed around him to the point where more people (especially in Europe) realized that the alternative to right wing populism was bat shit insanity.

The point being that the media has the power to generate initial hype, but over time, people tend to base their opinions on actual results.

Biden is 7 months in and his results are fucking awful. This is not a manufactured hype either way, and even if he recovers somewhat I think the damage is permanent. NPC's will read and watch the message that "the adults are back in charge", and remember how much they hated Trump, but there will always be the images of people clinging to airplanes and the mangled bodies of dead Marines in the back of their minds.

 

[Billy Beer]

and remember how much they hated Trump, but there will always be the images of people clinging to airplanes and the mangled bodies of dead Marines in the back of their minds.

it's Trumps fault those people died. If he hadn't negotiated (ignore the irony/double-standards) with the Taliban, or withdrawn himself, this wouldn't have happened. Biden had no time to prepare and those people fighting over there knew what they were doing. They were probably alt-right Trump supporters anyway.

Only Biden had the courage, mental fortitude and international support to do what he did, what needed to be done.

 

[Titos]

Same thing in my country. I got a call from a nurse that I usually see who told me that they won't let people enter the medical/psychological center anymore unless they have the bullshit pass to prove that they have taken the vaccine or done a PCR test. She also told me that the same rules apply to the hospitals now. I guess they have abandoned the Hippocratic oath in favor of the "hypocritcal" one and let people suffer.

Doctors haven't actually believed in the Hippocratic oath in decades. My mom used to work in a hospital so I knew alot of doctors growing up, and frankly they all gave me the same psychopathic vibe as lawyers, CEOs, politicians, "scientists", and people with the last name Ellis. Any job that has a bit of prestige to the title is bound to attract mostly narcissists and psychos if you ask me.

 

[Gehenna]

People do remember it. They remember Trump killed 600,000 people. That Fauci and the SCIENCE are correct in everything they say, even when it's a contradiction; two weeks to flatten the curve, masks work and they don't, but keep wearing them. You only need one, two, vaccines, as they have 90%, 80%, 60% efficacy against all strains, alpha, beta, it varies. There will be no a need for boosters...etc etc etc

Do you know why Tarot readers, Clairvoyents and fortune tellers are so effective against people? Because the average mong has a shitty, selective memory and people are always the hero's of their own stories and embellish things to make them sound more exciting. "something happened in November" when remember and told to friends becomes "He totally knew my Dad's birthday was November".


It being a clusterfuck makes it easier to forget. Nobody wants to remember bad, uncomfortable or painful events, especially not in the fuck-hole society we live in today, where people have a breakdown over the smallest thing. NO mean tweets!! And the brutal fact is, nobody cares how many people died, as long as they can be on the winning team and part of the winning story, those bodies will be "no biggie"

You can view the MSM and SM has having no influence, but then how did Biden win most popular president?

Either he cheated and rigged the election, or, MSM and SM have a significant impact on the majority of people. Which is more likely?

He rigged it. Hell, I am working with the people investigating it in Wisconsin, I know for a fact he rigged it.


"Tarot" readers don't work off shitty memory, your own description doesn't follow that. They work by presenting to someone already primed and eager to completely agree with them, and then keep things vague to lead their prey into their jaws. And most of the time, they fail. There is a reason such people are synonymous with a charlatan.

And you have your psychology exactly backwards, people are quicker to forget the good than to remember the bad. For evolutionary reasons, we are hardwired to do so. Remembering the better hunting place is secondary to remembering where the tiger was.

 

[Salubrious]

And you have your psychology exactly backwards, people are quicker to forget the good than to remember the bad. For evolutionary reasons, we are hardwired to do so. Remembering the better hunting place is secondary to remembering where the tiger was.

This line from the movies Rounders has always stuck with me:

In "Confessions of a Winning Poker Player," Jack King said, "Few players recall big pots they have won, strange as it seems, but every player can remember with remarkable accuracy the outstanding tough beats of his career." It seems true to me, cause walking in here, I can hardly remember how I built my bankroll, but I can't stop thinking of how I lost it.

 

[Billy Beer]

He rigged it. Hell, I am working with the people investigating it in Wisconsin, I know for a fact he rigged it.

FWIW I believe it was rigged, i just like to think in my tistic mind that some left wing NPC is reading my post, mostly nodding along in agreement with a smug smile on their face, then they get to that question and then *angry NPC noises* trying to justify everything.

"tarot" readers don't work off shitty memory, your own description doesn't follow that. They work by presenting to someone already primed and eager to completely agree with them, and then keep things vague to lead their prey into their jaws. And most of the time, they fail. There is a reason such people are synonymous with a charlatan.

Yes they prime them with sights and smells of the exotic, the capes and drapery, the mood and tone and the cheesy "I can only show you the way, the cards mean nothing to me but everything to you, help me decypher them and I will show you your future" but memory recall plays a big part in the success of any act or performance, because you remember the good and block out the bad.

And you have your psychology exactly backwards, people are quicker to forget the good than to remember the bad. For evolutionary reasons, we are hardwired to do so. Remembering the better hunting place is secondary to remembering where the tiger was.

I have to disagree here. The 'hand-in-cold-water' experiment show the opposite; people were willing to suffer colder water, longer, just to have that warm fuzzy at the end. The tiger is orinj man bad. The tiger is Alt-right homophobes, misgendering, anti-vaxxers. The tiger is whatever the compliance officials want it to be, because there are no tigers.

Covid killed less people than heart disease, cancer, the flu and probably (I haven't checked) homocides. Yet the whole west went in to lockdown and have become Nazis. Who's the tiger? Those fucking anti-mask wearing anti-vaxxers.

FWIW all of this is in good fun. At no point do i take my beliefs or those of others, seriously. It's my retarded version of posh-blokes smoking a cigar in a high-back chair in some snooty country club.

 

[Tour of Italy]

it's Trumps fault those people died. If he hadn't negotiated (ignore the irony/double-standards) with the Taliban, or withdrawn himself, this wouldn't have happened. Biden had no time to prepare and those people fighting over there knew what they were doing. They were probably alt-right Trump supporters anyway.

Only Biden had the courage, mental fortitude and international support to do what he did, what needed to be done.

You're right that a lot of people will default to that thinking, but everyone has a breaking point.

Most people don't understand the intricacies of international politics, war, and the like. Myself and most of us included when it comes down to it. But people understand what they can relate to in their own lives and most people understand that when the boss is in charge for 7 months and literally doesn't do anything to fix a mess they "inherited", then it becomes their mess, and their fault when things go pear-shaped.

I'm hopeful at least.

 

[Gehenna]

FWIW I believe it was rigged, i just like to think in my tistic mind that some left wing NPC is reading my post, mostly nodding along in agreement with a smug smile on their face, then they get to that question and then *angry NPC noises* trying to justify everything.

Yes they prime them with sights and smells of the exotic, the capes and drapery, the mood and tone and the cheesy "I can only show you the way, the cards mean nothing to me but everything to you, help me decypher them and I will show you your future" but memory recall plays a big part in the success of any act or performance, because you remember the good and block out the bad.

I have to disagree here. The 'hand-in-cold-water' experiment show the opposite; people were willing to suffer colder water, longer, just to have that warm fuzzy at the end. The tiger is orinj man bad. The tiger is Alt-right homophobes, misgendering, anti-vaxxers. The tiger is whatever the compliance officials want it to be, because there are no tigers.

Covid killed less people than heart disease, cancer, the flu and probably (I haven't checked) homocides. Yet the whole west went in to lockdown and have become Nazis. Who's the tiger? Those fucking anti-mask wearing anti-vaxxers.

FWIW all of this is in good fun. At no point do i take my beliefs or those of others, seriously. It's my retarded version of posh-blokes smoking a cigar in a high-back chair in some snooty country club.

You are simply factually wrong. https://www.livescience.com/1827-bad-memories-stick-good.html This has been well studied, very well. Every single bit of science we has says that we FAR better recall negative experiences than positive ones.

have some more:

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/new-study-suggests-we-remember-the-bad-times-better-than-the-good.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2676782/

https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa16/2016/10/14/do-we-remember-negative-events-more-vividly-than-positive-ones/

 

[Salubrious]

I think if Trump had been reelected, no matter what would have happened, the media would have labeled it a failure not just for obvious reasons, but because we assume even a baseline level of competence for anything.

The reason why this will stick with Biden is because Biden surpassed even people's most pessimistic worse case scenarios. It might be hard, but try to imagine what you thought the worst case scenario would have been three weeks ago. Does even that worse case scenario involve the White House saying "we are reliant on the Taliban for a successful withdrawl?" Not in a million years, even if you assumed the Taliban/Isis would attack, would you have guessed to hear the White House openly admit that we are at the Taliban's mercy.

 

[Billy Beer]

Most people don't understand the intricacies of international politics, war, and the like. Myself and most of us included when it comes down to it. But people understand what they can relate to in their own lives and most people understand that when the boss is in charge for 7 months and literally doesn't do anything to fix a mess they "inherited", then it becomes their mess, and their fault when things go pear-shaped.

From the perspective of the guy in charge not fixing a mess. But if you believe that the mess was mean tweets, orinj man child Hitler in charge and having the international community laugh at you, then Biden is none of those things and has, automatically, fixed the mess.

"I didn't vote for Biden, I voted for not-Trump" "anyone but Trump". They don't care what Biden does, he isn't trump so he's the best.

Msm go hard on Biden
Bidens approval drop
Coincidence?

You are simply factually wrong. https://www.livescience.com/1827-bad-memories-stick-good.html This has been well studied, very well. Every single bit of science we has says that we FAR better recall negative experiences than positive ones.

have some more:

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/new-study-suggests-we-remember-the-bad-times-better-than-the-good.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2676782/

https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa16/2016/10/14/do-we-remember-negative-events-more-vividly-than-positive-ones/

Thanks for the info. I don't mind being wrong, it's how we learn.

Edit: I've read those links and for various reasons I still disagree. So let's move on from that.

 

[jje100010001]

Come on guys, don't respond to the obvious troll bait designed only to soothe over their chapped ass cheeks because of how bad their guy fucked up.

Yeah, the ignore button is there for a reason.

And you have your psychology exactly backwards, people are quicker to forget the good than to remember the bad. For evolutionary reasons, we are hardwired to do so. Remembering the better hunting place is secondary to remembering where the tiger was.

I have to disagree here. The 'hand-in-cold-water' experiment show the opposite; people were willing to suffer colder water, longer, just to have that warm fuzzy at the end. The tiger is orinj man bad. The tiger is Alt-right homophobes, misgendering, anti-vaxxers. The tiger is whatever the compliance officials want it to be, because there are no tigers.

I think you're both right, but in different parts- I think people will instinctively seek out good fuzzy thoughts over hard truths at certain comfort levels, but if they're forced into a hard situation, they'll remember those far longer than the good moments.

Ultimately this disaster is what people make it out to be and how much the media makes it out to be. I'm not immersed in American hoo-rah culture, so the deaths don't impact me much, but I can imagine it would be devastating to a military family.

The reason why this will stick with Biden is because Biden surpassed even people's most pessimistic worse case scenarios. It might be hard, but try to imagine what you thought the worst case scenario would have been three weeks ago. Does even that worse case scenario involve the White House saying "we are reliant on the Taliban for a successful withdrawl?" Not in a million years, even if you assumed the Taliban/Isis would attack, would you have guessed to hear the White House openly admit that we are at the Taliban's mercy.

I think it's because there's an increasing disconnect between the Administration's words vs the facts on the ground.

This is sort of paralleled to the whole 2012 refugee crisis where refugees were literally jasmine-scented, and your future doctors and lawyers, but on the ground, there were continuous attacks and rapes.

Personally I saw this as the revealing moment that laid bare liberal technocracy's flaws.

 

[Gehenna]

Thanks for the info. I don't mind being wrong, it's how we learn.

I do wish to note I generally avoid making "this is factually wrong' statements because I like to believe -most- things can be debated. But the core concept that people remember the bad over the good is actually kinda vital to Political Science understanding as a whole, so it's something I am fairly... extensively acquainted with.

Basically, everything we do revolves around understanding it, since the voters will remember your client's fuckups better than his accomplishments. To the point it's necessary to constantly remind the voting populace and to keep their general goodwill up. It's also why the media was more effective at tearing down Trump than building up Biden.