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[Nauseated Courgi]

One works, the other doesn't.

Edit: Oh, and Ivermectin is commonly used for humans as well. The sole difference between it and veterinary Ivermectin is the dosage.

Based on what? Anecdotal evidence?

Also, There isn't enough evidence to suggest that Ivermectin is good at treating or preventing infection. In fact, it's even stated that to get the results you're looking for would require administration much higher than what's approved for humans.

But what do I know?

 

[FriedPickles]

Pretty sure I lost the plot of the points you were making, but oh well. Soros, Gates, et al. are still evil and I think vaccine passports are the mark of the beast.

Honestly, I wasn't really making a point, lol. A relative that forwards me strange stuff on messenger once in awhile sent me that link. I just thought it was kind of freaky. I think this person might be saying that the vaccines are part of the whole end times scenario in Revelations with the passports being the mark of the beast or something. The vaccines being a kind of modern sorcery (pharmacology). I don't really know; I am but a humble shitposter. I'm not even religious (though I am starting wonder lately). However, I enjoyed your ancient language sperging. How do you know all that stuff?

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Remember kids: this is all because some chink couldn't cover their mouth when they sneezed.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

"Don't want to wear a mask? Fuck you; here's a $500,000 fine and a life sentence in prison."

Remember when they released prisoners because they could catch covid in prison?

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

So I wanted to record my future predictions in this thread. Let me know what you think.

1. The casedemic will continue well into fall, with an even bigger spike due to normal seasonal rise of colds/flus/pneumonias. It has to continue, because there is a lot of boosters to sell, and if variants would fizzle out there is no reason for any vaxx or booster anymore... Since many people will still resist vax, it will become more clear with each day that vax is useless and harmful.

2. The mandates will roll-out slowly, because I expect only 60% of vaccinated lining up for boosters. So let's say now a company has 90% of its work-force vaxxed. If only 60% of the vaxxed will accept boosters, suddenly only 54% of the workforce is vaxxed, and the rest is technically unvaxxed.

3. In the end the narrative will completely fall apart because more and more people will see through the scam.

From my anecdotal experience: I don't know anyone who suffered from a severe COVID, and I know at least 5 people who had such bad effects from mRNA vaccine that they had to take days off from work. Typically second shot was worse. That's why I expect that only 60% will take boosters. Maybe a little more.

 

[Sanshain]

Based on what? Anecdotal evidence?

Also, There isn't enough evidence to suggest that Ivermectin is good at treating or preventing infection. In fact, it's even stated that to get the results you're looking for would require administration much higher than what's approved for humans.

But what do I know?

So far there have been around 60 separate studies involving a minimum of 20,000 people, the vast majority of which have come to the conclusion that Ivermectin is effective against Covid-19.

Here's 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7 articles and papers saying Ivermectin is effective against Covid-19. Even the studies that advise against using it still say it kills the virus. This is a single page of one google search that gives you thousands and thousands of results.

How much more proof do you need, exactly? Japan has authorized its usage. Various other countries are using it. It already is used as a common treatment in humans for various conditions.

The only possible argument you can make against using ivermectin is that people are self-medicating and getting sick from it. But as Louis Rossman would say, that's the premise of an asshole, and I don't accept it. So the burden of proof is on you now;

1) Show me how many cases of people dying from ivermectin overdose have occured so far.
2) Link me to any verifiable news article which states somebody was hospitalized after being proscribed ivermectin. Proscribed that is, not 'drank a gallon he got from a pet store'.
3) Link me to any study that says ivermectin made for a worse outcome in Covid patients, as opposed to either have no effect or improving their outcomes.

Additionally, you say that because people are being poisoned by hazardous use of ivermectin, ivermectin should be banned. The only reason people are being poisoned by it is because they aren't being allowed to purchase it as a proper proscription, due to the CDC scaring doctors into refusing requests for it.

 

[Smug Cat]

I have been reading an alarming amount of reports about people to take Ivermectin and shit piles of worms a week later.

Ide be curious to take it just for that

Great now I can't stop thinking about shitting worms and I blame you. You did this.

 

[The Great Citracett]

Found a cancerous facebook group today. Despite the name, it contains no memes or refutations. It's just a 350,000 member group full of hatred, gravedancing, and wishing death on others.

Refutations to Anti-Vaccine Memes

Refutations to Anti-Vaccine Memes. 379,357 likes · 127,068 talking about this. Revealing the facts through memes and refuting the lies and misinformation.

www.facebook.com

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

2) Link me to any verifiable news article which states somebody was hospitalized after being proscribed ivermectin. Proscribed that is, not 'drank a gallon he got from a pet store'.

Going off memory for this one it's about 12-19. But it's consider they may have died to the thing that they where proscribed for.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

The only possible argument you can make against using ivermectin is that people are self-medicating and getting sick from it. But as Louis Rossman would say, that's the premise of an asshole, and I don't accept it. So the burden of proof is on you now;

1) Show me how many cases of people dying from ivermectin overdose have occured so far.
2) Link me to any verifiable news article which states somebody was hospitalized after being proscribed ivermectin. Proscribed that is, not 'drank a gallon he got from a pet store'.
3) Link me to any study that says ivermectin made for a worse outcome in Covid patients, as opposed to either have no effect or improving their outcomes.

Additionally, you say that because people are being poisoned by hazardous use of ivermectin, ivermectin should be banned. The only reason people are being poisoned by it is because they aren't being allowed to purchase it as a proper proscription, due to the CDC scaring doctors into refusing requests for it.

I didn't claim any of that. The most I stated is that antiviral efficiency requires doses higher than what is approved for human usage and how funny it is that you guys are trusting alternative medicine over a vaccine.

I don't need to prove anything if you're going to put words in my mouth.

 

[Sanshain]

I didn't claim any of that. The most I stated is that antiviral efficiency requires doses higher than what is approved for human usage and how funny it is that you guys are trusting alternative medicine over a vaccine.

I don't need to prove anything if you're going to put words in my mouth.

Liar. You've done this multiple times in other threads, and ignored people when they've debunked you. I've personally responded to you several times already, as have other people. You act all innocent and 'just a concerned citizen', then you immediately turn tail and crawl away into the shadows when others point out your bullshit, only to squirm over to another thread and say the exact same thing. You have no interest in actually looking at the evidence, and I'd have more respect for you if you just fucking said so instead of acting like this.

 

[knobslobbin]

i mean its totally possible you would of made that recovery without ivermection

More than likely, but the experts over on r/ivermectin are warning that any moron anti-vaxx filth that are taking horse paste might turn into a horse themselves, and I thought that sounded fun. Unfortunately, so far the only part horse-affected seems to be my cock.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Liar. You've done this multiple times in other threads, and ignored people when they've debunked you. I've personally responded to you several times already, as have other people. You act all innocent and 'just a concerned citizen', then you immediately turn tail and crawl away into the shadows when others point out your bullshit, only to squirm over to another thread and say the exact same thing. You have no interest in actually looking at the evidence, and I'd have more respect for you if you just fucking said so instead of acting like this.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[knobslobbin]

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Go check out r/ivermectin, so many experts over there dunking on stupid racist half-horse rednecks! Sounds like more your speed.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Go back to reddit

Those words are cutting, sir.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

To be fair inactivated vaccines don't work against Coronaviruses, this has been known for decades. But it turns out neither do mRNA vaccines.

Because if the virus changes the shape of its spike protein, capsid or any other surface protein, then it renders existing T-cell & B-cell memory largely obsolete.
It doesn't matter HOW you acquired those immune memory (natural exposure, live/inactivated virus, mRNA, viral vector, etc.) once they change, the virus can infect you again.

Now does this mean the existing memory is completely useless? No.
But does it mean you will get a magic shield which prevents you from becoming a vector of transmission? No.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Remember when they released prisoners because they could catch covid in prison?

I remember and Pepperidge Farm remembers as well.

 

[Random Internet Person]

DeSantis is seen as the enemy of the left. And now…he’s reaching that “man on his own territory” that makes those look like heroes to /pol/. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article253784258.html

 

[knobslobbin]

Those words are cutting, sir.

Hey friend, I'm just looking out for you pal!

How did you take the news of Japan treating their covid patients with ivermectin? Hope your day is looking up otherwise

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]