Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,712 74.0%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,312
“I can’t wait for the stans to know about this”, they do, everyone on Twitter that day was well aware of Dream’s panic. But, as it stands, it doesn’t matter as this isn't sufficient enough evidence to prove they are dating.

Also, as I’ll point out, even if they were dating, the Carson situation and this hypothetical Dream one would be very different.

Carson sexted underage fans with the sole purpose of obtaining nudes and being generally a creep towards them.

Dream, in this hypothetical, would also be messaging a fan(?), but the differences lay in their age and intention. This Hannah person is 19, while Dream is 21. Hannah is well above the age of legal. Also, Dream would be messaging them with the intent of starting a relationship, not just gathering nudes.

I’m very hesitant to believe your words when your evidence is very much lacking.
Also, with the Carson thing, they were also probably having uh, “Cyber sex” as kind of referenced by the “hmu if you’re horny again” post. Things like that and the other DM’s are what solidified the relationship so the status of them “dating” was obvious, as well as other factors. As for Dream, the Hannah person saying “penis” isn’t really any indication of anything sexual going on, or even dating wise. It’s just that lately internet humor is just “penis funny” so it’s hard to say what is what.

Dream’s actions are hella suspicious tho, but it’s possible he doesn’t want his stans to know he interacts with a girl in his free time and isn’t with George 24/7.

Also isn’t this all old news? I thought we covered it already.
I mean the thing they always said including a lot of cc is that if you flirt with fans you are weird, they talk about a lot of power dynamics wich is actually very true, and i'm shocked by the fact that he isn't aware of this especially after his controversies with stans. Hanna's tiktoks are kinda suspicious they are very vague and all can be directed to dream, there's a couple of sexual ones there as well.
But yeah, maybe they aren't dating but clearly Clay is interested and his actions speak a lot, especially when it isn't the first time he was with her, and like I said this is not the first time he is interested in fans, the DM's with his ex and the girls he flirted with is the proof of that, didn't he send merch to a 17 girl of that list? Even a couple weeks ago he left a coment on a very sexual tiktok of an underage girl that had his merch.
Yeah we talked about this but this is kinda new that i think we didn't see, it happened a month ago.
 
  • Thunk-Provoking
Reactions: Slider
Found the VOD. It was way more interesting than i tought.
He really panicked, i thought the stans were lying. Funny enough apparently even his friends doesn't know about Clayton's secrets with his stans, George reactions were also interesting, affraid much? Clay even lied after unfriend everyone on hypixel, he said that he had a lot of friends there because he friends with everyone, but that's a lie. He only had 66 friends there according to the screenshots posted here, and every friend he had was his content creators friends, they all had personalized tags except Hannarenec she literally was the only "fan" he followed there. They definitely have something going on.
I literally can't wait for the stans to know about this, the timming with the Carson situation and the reactions of the stans about it are very interesting. I want to know if the reactions are going to be the same about their beloved Dream.
Again sorry for no archiving it, i'm on my phone and it's very difficult to do it here. Here's the link.
this seems really inaccurate. i know he had his ex added on hypixel and a lot of other people that were all removed at the same time. she definitely was not the only person that he removed from his friends list you could even hear him typing names for like 5 minutes straight. i am assuming that her messaging him reminded him that people he is friends with can just message him on stream so he removed everyone. he does not stream hypixel much so does not have to worry about that usually.

side note, she made a tik tok asking him to follow her if he sees the tiktok a while after they talked on omegle so he did not add her there and he only follows her on twitter and not any other platforms. not really sure any of this is important or new information though we talked about this weeks ago
 
I'm not sure if this is the right place to talk about this since he isn't that close to Dream, but Technoblade has revealed that he has fucking cancer.

Jesus, thats fuckin awful. I hope he recovers quickly and that the cancer can be dealt with. He’s one of the few modern Minecraft youtubers I actually enjoy watching because he’s genuinely entertaining and makes good content.
 
this seems really inaccurate. i know he had his ex added on hypixel and a lot of other people that were all removed at the same time. she definitely was not the only person that he removed from his friends list you could even hear him typing names for like 5 minutes straight. i am assuming that her messaging him reminded him that people he is friends with can just message him on stream so he removed everyone. he does not stream hypixel much so does not have to worry about that usually.

side note, she made a tik tok asking him to follow her if he sees the tiktok a while after they talked on omegle so he did not add her there and he only follows her on twitter and not any other platforms. not really sure any of this is important or new information though we talked about this weeks ago
Well yeah that's what I'm saying. His ex is not a random person and I checked his friend list when we talked about the girl months ago. He only followed content creators (you can see it with the tags) , only hanna was a random person/stan on his friendlist even better she was the only person he followed on hypixel this year. If he only unfollowed her that day would give everything away hes not that stupid, well kinda if he's in fact interested in a stan.
 
Someone just send me hanna's discord, the person said that she in fact has dream as a friend there. :thinking:. Why does he have a random stan on his personal discord?
31.png
 
Last edited:
Someone just send me hanna's discord, the person said that she in fact has dream as a friend there. :thinking:. Why does he have a random stan on his personal discord?
View attachment 2487024
Who is this someone? You do know that these things can be easily faked. Also, you've been oddly fixated on this girl for awhile now. Just a bit strange in all honesty. What's with that?
 
Who is this someone? You do know that these things can be easily faked. Also, you've been oddly fixated on this girl for awhile now. Just a bit strange in all honesty. What's with that?
I was the first person that said that this was fake back in the day now i'm interested LMAO. And the screenshot is real. It matches her minecraft skin.
 
I was the first person that said that this was fake back in the day now i'm interested LMAO. And the screenshot is real. It matches her minecraft skin.
Eh, my bad! Just thought it was a bit weird how you keep bringing her up when everything about her has already been dug into lol!
And still, discord profiles can be faked. It matching her minecraft skin ain't proof at all
 
  • Like
Reactions: Suikafag and axzs
Eh, my bad! Just thought it was a bit weird how you keep bringing her up when everything about her has already been dug into lol!
And still, discord profiles can be faked. It matching her minecraft skin ain't proof at all
It's okay! I'm more interested on the fact that Dream likes to talk with fans in private. Also it all came together after i found about the coment dream left on that tiktok (the underage fan) weeks ago. Finding the clip that i posted early was just a funny coincidence.
Also is real, you can see the profile picture on her twitch profile (Hannarenec)
 
mine.png

Remember when we thought this fandom wasn't sustainable?

Including the ones lower down the catalog there are currently roughly 606,412 people watching Dream SMP members on Twitch right now.
(189000 + 120000 + 98900 + 81500 + 30300 + 26100 + 19800 + 7500 + 7500 + 7300 + 5600 + 5000 + 2800 + 2300 + 2100 + 712)

The current concurrent viewership record (excluding company channels hosting large events) is 2,470,347 by TheGrefg. The English-speaking record is 650,237 by Tommyinnit.


Update 3:05 PM EST:

200,000 + 127000 + 102000 + 61600 + 41800 + 30300 + 26100 + 19800 + 7500 + 7500 + 7300 + 5600 + 5000 + 2800 + 2300 + 2100 + 712
650,012

Update 3:05 PM EST:

214,000 + 132000 + 97900 + 80700 + 54900 + 28000 + 26400 + 13100 + 6800 + 7500 + 7300 + 5600 + 5000 + 3100 + 2300 + 1800 + 712
687,112
 
Last edited:
I dont know if I've overlooked it or forgotten my medication, but where has it been said that Cole has joined the navy
Joined the Navy Nuclear Engineering program, to be exact. He is shown on Lyman High School's Twitter account as a successful scolar.
239492069_395786795347083_1291286024435356732_n.png

Interestingly, it got archived in 2020 May.

Old accounts: Smurftastic696969/gNoMeD on steam
George's steam accounts:
gNoMeD/Smurftastic696969
rEtArD.png


Mittens/GeorgeeeHD
Mittens.png

Both are private now and got archived rougly 5 months ago.
 
Also is real, you can see the profile picture on her twitch profile (Hannarenec)
People can still get your twitch profile picture by screenshots and also I think by Google search. Again, there’s still no proof of it being her/not faked.
So does this basically confirm that the pictures aren't of coleton pretending to be clay?
I don’t know if it’s different from the Navy, but when my dad went to attend long Out of State Military programs, he would have some family visitation periods which could range from about a week+
If Coleton is getting into a Navy Program, it’s possible he has the same visitation periods, which makes it still possible he’s the one in the pictures, but that’s pretty much the only way it could be him, unless he just never got into the program or the program had a delayed start.
 
Foodistzen and imitators (see username) are a bunch of edgelords who make these and similar ones(I.e Jack Septiceyes dads death) to garner views.
As much as I'd like to shit on stans this can't be blamed on them
I was going to say, if memelords who look like they haven’t showered since the Trump administration are “stans” now then the demographics have really changed
 
If Lyman Highschool knew Coleton was joining the Navy in April, it can be assumed that he had already been sworn in by that point. Since the countdown to your ETS starts at your swear-in date, the military wants to get you shipped out sooner rather than later.

However, this info throws a huge wrench in the Coleton body double theory. Naval Nuclear Engineer training takes over a year to complete, so even in the most fast-tracked scenarios he would still be in training right now.

If Coleton is getting into a Navy Program, it’s possible he has the same visitation periods, which makes it still possible he’s the one in the pictures, but that’s pretty much the only way it could be him, unless he just never got into the program or the program had a delayed start.
IET sailors like Cole aren't entitled to visitation periods outside of holidays. At best he could do the Mr Beast video, but that raises more questions than answers.

From Dream's instagram alone, I've found 4 posts we assumed to be Cole that logically can't be anymore.
  • From July 21st, 2020. Cole would be in the middle of Navy RTC in Chicago at this point, and would have a shaved head.
  • From February 18th, 2021. Cole would be in A school in Pennsylvania when this photo was taken.
  • From August 7th, 2021. Cole would be at his duty station, in the final 6 month period of his training.
  • From August 17th, 2021. Same as the August 7th post. The haircut we can see also goes against UCMJ Article 2201.1 (TL;DR, hair's too long on the top and sides), which reinforces the fact that it isn't Cole for me.
Side note, the general build of "Cole" remains consistent all the way back to 2019. Even when wearing a jacket, this shouldn't be the case after months of military training.

So does this basically confirm that the pictures aren't of coleton pretending to be clay?

Either Cole is in the Navy, or he's Clay's body double. I can't see a way for both scenarios to be true given the timeframe of photo uploads, and there's a few visual inconsistencies that just don't make sense if he's in the military.
 
Last edited:
From July 21st, 2020. Cole would be in the middle of Navy RTC in Chicago at this point, and would have a shaved head.
If I remember correctly, I thought that, namely the picture from the back, wasn't Dream. The stans for a long while thought it was George because the hair was so dark and pretty much none of them believed it was him. He also never outright stated that it was him in the photos, which I believe had some stans saying it was his brother or SapNap in the photoshoot? They were mainly saying those things because he didn't have golden blonde hair, plus he was saying at the time that he had "long shoulder length hair" or something of that sort. Sadly, I can't find anything from that time of discussion because stans get their accounts terminated or go private at the drop of a hat, but I do remember browsing the trending tag when that was going on and that was a very popular theory.
So even if it's not Coleton, based on his hair color and what Dream himself was describing himself as at the time, it couldn't be him. Unless he somehow forgot his own self description he gave the stans, which in all honesty, Dream lying is nothing new.

After that discussion however, most of Dream's other selfies did not include hair in them, such as the Mr Beast video, the other merch drops. Recently I believe this has been the most hair photos he's shown. I could be very wrong on this, I try to avoid seeing pictures of him.
Altho honestly, the instagram picture from August seventh would not surprise me if that's actually him. Since it's hard to hide fat, or even the overall shape of your body after losing a good bit of weight after being that large, him being slouched over like that would hide any evidence of not being a skinny twink. Also wearing black is made to slim you down, which would explain the full length gloves, which might also be slimming for the fingers in the process.

That photo being him is also more reasoning for the July photoshoot not being him as his hair color, even in the non-lit areas, is pretty much the same as his actual photo and his previous "hair color reveal", where as the person modeling on July 21st is being hit by sunlight and still has dark brown hair.

Untitled (45).png
 
If Lyman Highschool knew Coleton was joining the Navy in April, it can be assumed that he had already been sworn in by that point. Since the countdown to your ETS starts at your swear-in date, the military wants to get you shipped out sooner rather than later.

However, this info throws a huge wrench in the Coleton body double theory. Naval Nuclear Engineer training takes over a year to complete, so even in the most fast-tracked scenarios he would still be in training right now.


IET sailors like Cole aren't entitled to visitation periods outside of holidays. At best he could do the Mr Beast video, but that raises more questions than answers.

From Dream's instagram alone, I've found 4 posts we assumed to be Cole that logically can't be anymore.
  • From July 21st, 2020. Cole would be in the middle of Navy RTC in Chicago at this point, and would have a shaved head.
  • From February 18th, 2021. Cole would be in A school in Pennsylvania when this photo was taken.
  • From August 7th, 2021. Cole would be at his duty station, in the final 6 month period of his training.
  • From August 17th, 2021. Same as the August 7th post. The haircut we can see also goes against UCMJ Article 2201.1 (TL;DR, hair's too long on the top and sides), which reinforces the fact that it isn't Cole for me.
Side note, the general build of "Cole" remains consistent all the way back to 2019. Even when wearing a jacket, this shouldn't be the case after months of military training.



Either Cole is in the Navy, or he's Clay's body double. I can't see a way for both scenarios to be true given the timeframe of photo uploads, and there's a few visual inconsistencies that just don't make sense if he's in the military.
I don’t know where your info comes from, but I was a Navy nuke.
I enlisted before graduating high school in the delayed entry program and didn’t start boot camp until September.
There were 4 phases of training (boot and three schools - one for your basic job, six month nuke-specific classroom and on-the-job training at a working mock-up reactor facility). I had leave between each of those steps, plus for holidays. Not sure where you get the idea he wouldn’t have.
As for the hair, the mandatory buzz cut only happens once. He could’ve easily had his hair back by the end of basic training if he’s even gone yet and his hair grows as fast as mine. It’s not the Marines. Sailors aren’t required to keep it that high and tight.
 
Back